Race to get fired

[Otis Driftwood]

Meanwhile... any takers on Mike McCarthy?

Wow, Do they have themselves in Green Bay or what? I'm just wondering if everyone is jumping the gun a bit. I mean, the defense is nothing but a mash unit. What do you expect McCarthy do do. I remember a few times over the years when we couldn't win in that department either. Totally frustrating. You can't control injuries, but you can your depth. But even there depth in injured.

The million dollar question is how his relationship with Rodgers is. If it's good, then he's okay. If not, he's gone. Also, I wouldn't put it past Aaron Rodgers to make some passive-aggressive remark blaming McCarthy that sours their relationship and leads to Mike's exit.

That's the big question isn't it...

The bulk of Packers fans here as well as the ones I'm friends with on Twitter and elsewhere are pretty much fed up with MCM's unimaginative play calling in general. Just seems less injuries would fix a lot of what ails them right now.

[RavenMad31]

I'm not sure if it will be a firing or resignation, but I have a feeling that Ron Rivera is gone at the end of the season in Carolina. There's an obvious rift with Cam Newton and I think it isn't superficial enough to smooth over. It's a fundamental philosophical differences. It's getting pretty obvious that Cam thinks of himself as a celebrity, not a football player and Ron Rivera wants to run a tight ship. The coach isn't going to win this struggle.

[FNQ]

I'd be very surprised if any of the following had HC jobs at season's end: Todd Bowles, Marvin Lewis, Gus Bradley, Chip Kelly, John Fox (reports be damned), Ron Rivera

These guys I think could be fired, but am unsure: Mike McCoy, Chuck Pagano, Jeff Fisher (extension be damned, he sucks), Bruce Arians, Rex Ryan

[Cherokee]

I'd be very surprised if any of the following had HC jobs at season's end: Todd Bowles, Marvin Lewis, Gus Bradley, Chip Kelly, John Fox (reports be damned), Ron Rivera

These guys I think could be fired, but am unsure: Mike McCoy, Chuck Pagano, Jeff Fisher (extension be damned, he sucks), Bruce Arians, Rex Ryan

No chance Ariana gets fired. Mike McCarthy probably has a higher chance of being fired than Bruce Arians does imo. Arians has earned enough good will from last season to be able to sustain through a bad year like this one for the Cardinals.

[bleu]

I've seen and heard quite a few people saying that they think Rivera might be done in Carolina. I really don't see it. I think that mountains are being made out of molehills with this whole benching Cam thing. Rivera is a VERY good coach and I just don't see him going anywhere.

Though, if he did leave, I wouldn't mind seeing Mike Shula or Sean McDermott get a chance as the HC.

[RavenMad31]

I've seen and heard quite a few people saying that they think Rivera might be done in Carolina. I really don't see it. I think that mountains are being made out of molehills with this whole benching Cam thing. Rivera is a VERY good coach and I just don't see him going anywhere.

Though, if he did leave, I wouldn't mind seeing Mike Shula or Sean McDermott get a chance as the HC.

All reports are that that was a premeditated F.U. to something Rivera had specifically told him the night before. My guess is that if you have a shred of respect for your head coach, even if what he is asking is corny, stupid, whatever, you give him an, "alright coach, I'm with you". If it's an unreasonable request, you confront it privately one on one changing the rule rather than breaking the rule in a move that obviously undermines the coach. I have yet to see that he acknowledged that aspect of his action or apologized for it. Cam is way too contrived about his image, especially the way he dresses, for that to have been a thoughtless oversight. Cam has been allowed to take that franchise hostage to some extent, much like Favre and his will I or won't I drama every offseason, and no self-respecting head coach wants to be in a position where he has to be subservient to a player.

[bleu]

I've seen and heard quite a few people saying that they think Rivera might be done in Carolina. I really don't see it. I think that mountains are being made out of molehills with this whole benching Cam thing. Rivera is a VERY good coach and I just don't see him going anywhere.

Though, if he did leave, I wouldn't mind seeing Mike Shula or Sean McDermott get a chance as the HC.

All reports are that that was a premeditated F.U. to something Rivera had specifically told him the night before. My guess is that if you have a shred of respect for your head coach, even if what he is asking is corny, stupid, whatever, you give him an, "alright coach, I'm with you". If it's an unreasonable request, you confront it privately one on one changing the rule rather than breaking the rule in a move that obviously undermines the coach. I have yet to see that he acknowledged that aspect of his action or apologized for it. Cam is way too contrived about his image, especially the way he dresses, for that to have been a thoughtless oversight. Cam has been allowed to take that franchise hostage to some extent, much like Favre and his will I or won't I drama every offseason, and no self-respecting head coach wants to be in a position where he has to be subservient to a player.

Cam himself said that they were on a road trip, he was running late for the team bus and wearing a turtle neck and he didn't have time to change and wear a shirt with a tie. So Rivera did exactly what he would do with anyone who breaks team rules. No "F.U." about it.

[RavenMad31]

I've seen and heard quite a few people saying that they think Rivera might be done in Carolina. I really don't see it. I think that mountains are being made out of molehills with this whole benching Cam thing. Rivera is a VERY good coach and I just don't see him going anywhere.

Though, if he did leave, I wouldn't mind seeing Mike Shula or Sean McDermott get a chance as the HC.

All reports are that that was a premeditated F.U. to something Rivera had specifically told him the night before. My guess is that if you have a shred of respect for your head coach, even if what he is asking is corny, stupid, whatever, you give him an, "alright coach, I'm with you". If it's an unreasonable request, you confront it privately one on one changing the rule rather than breaking the rule in a move that obviously undermines the coach. I have yet to see that he acknowledged that aspect of his action or apologized for it. Cam is way too contrived about his image, especially the way he dresses, for that to have been a thoughtless oversight. Cam has been allowed to take that franchise hostage to some extent, much like Favre and his will I or won't I drama every offseason, and no self-respecting head coach wants to be in a position where he has to be subservient to a player.

Cam himself said that they were on a road trip, he was running late for the team bus and wearing a turtle neck and he didn't have time to change and wear a shirt with a tie. So Rivera did exactly what he would do with anyone who breaks team rules. No "F.U." about it.

I heard that interview and explanation. Sometimes it's not what someone says, it's how they say it and it took way to many words and none of them said anything to the tune of "my bad, coach asked me to wear a tie, I messed up, I want to apologize because for me to do this as the focal point of this team is a bad look, I'll do better next time." To be fair, I'm going to go find it and listen to it again though.

[RavenMad31]

After learning Saturday night he wouldn’t start the nationally televised game against Seattle, Newton addressed at least some of his offensive teammates. Tight end Ed Dickson said Newton told the group he wouldn’t break the dress code again.

“I feel it was dealt with pretty good. He addressed it as a quarterback, took ownership in it. From his mouth, it’ll never happen again,” Dickson said. “We move on from that situation and he’s still our leader on offense.”

Though I have my reservations that this could just be him jumping on a grenade, I'll give Dickson the benefit of the doubt here as far as the sincerity of Cam's sentiment and state of the locker room at the moment. I think if they show up with a chip on their shoulder and play like a team with something to prove on Sunday against the Chargers, then this whole thing is to be forgotten. If this team is sleepwalking again and Cam has a fourth straight crappy game, it's going to say a lot about where their heads are, especially Cam's.

[RavenMad31]

After learning Saturday night he wouldn’t start the nationally televised game against Seattle, Newton addressed at least some of his offensive teammates. Tight end Ed Dickson said Newton told the group he wouldn’t break the dress code again.

“I feel it was dealt with pretty good. He addressed it as a quarterback, took ownership in it. From his mouth, it’ll never happen again,” Dickson said. “We move on from that situation and he’s still our leader on offense.”

Though I have my reservations that this could just be him jumping on a grenade, I'll give Dickson the benefit of the doubt here as far as the sincerity of Cam's sentiment and state of the locker room at the moment. I think if they show up with a chip on their shoulder and play like a team with something to prove on Sunday against the Chargers, then this whole thing is to be forgotten. If this team is sleepwalking again and Cam has a fourth straight crappy game, it's going to say a lot about where their heads are, especially Cam's.

Now I'm confused. Cam played like crap, but Carolina showed up and won by two scores. Anyway, that's not why I'm here...

Is Rex the frontrunner in this race again? Jason La Canfora seems to think so.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/rex-ryan-in-jeopardy-of-losing-his-job-as-soon-as-this-week-as-is-tyrod-taylor/

[Mich3006]

I'd be very surprised if any of the following had HC jobs at season's end: Todd Bowles, Marvin Lewis, Gus Bradley, Chip Kelly, John Fox (reports be damned), Ron Rivera

These guys I think could be fired, but am unsure: Mike McCoy, Chuck Pagano, Jeff Fisher (extension be damned, he sucks), Bruce Arians, Rex Ryan

I´m sure Bowles and Fox as well as Mike Zimmer (depends on their final record) will be in the mix.
Guys like Marvin Lewis and Ron Rivera (or even Bruce Arians) won´t be fired but they should resign IMO.
Rex Ryan and Gus Bradley will be fired this season.

[Otis Driftwood]

I think Zimmer's safe. That team's been ravaged by injuries but continues to play hard. And Bradford sucks.

Not sure about Bowles. Woody Johnson is a meddling fool but Ryan Fitzpatrick isn't the answer for any team. I'd say these next three games with Petty running the show will tell the tale. Chicago is a complete mess. They have way bigger issues than the head coach but I can see him taking a fall.

Buffalo can't fire the contract they gave Taylor. They can fire Rex.

[bleu]

Rex has to get fired. If I were a Buffalo fan I would be calling for his head the second the clock hits zero of the last game of the season. I think Fox and Bowles are also out, and probably Marvin Lewis.

[RavenMad31]

Rex has to get fired. If I were a Buffalo fan I would be calling for his head the second the clock hits zero of the last game of the season. I think Fox and Bowles are also out, and probably Marvin Lewis.

This is one of those situations where we all knew what the Bills were getting the day he was hired. He was 46-50 in 6 seasons with the Jets. In those six seasons, the Jets slowly got worse on offense and more damningly, on defense. They got exactly what you'd expect from a Rex Ryan team last year and now, along with his brother, he is a game under .500 and Rob's defense just got punched in the mouth to the tune of about 300 yards from Leveon Bell. He shouldn't have been hired in the first place and any day since then that the Bills would have chosen to fire him would have been justified as long as the weren't eyeing Norv Turner to replace him.

[Otis Driftwood]

And - the winner is...

NFL.com - Los Angeles Rams fire head coach Jeff Fisher
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000755854/article/los-angels-rams-fire-head-coach-jeff-fisher

[RavenMad31]

This just in:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/12/12/rams-fire-jeff-fisher/
Jeff Fisher is our winner.

[bleu]

Bye bye Jeff!

[Otis Driftwood]

This just in:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/12/12/rams-fire-jeff-fisher/
Jeff Fisher is our winner.

Ninja'd

[bluejerseyjinx]

Bye bye Jeff!

Who does the postings for the weekly RealGM forum poll? Just curious why KC. was not getting any love in the possible super bowl match ups.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Actually I'm surprised Fisher lasted this long. I would have fired his azz last year.