Conference Championship Matchups and Games Discussion

[Cactus Jack]

Well actually...Losing the Sonics & SB 49 > Atlanta's Loss

So....

Well, I don't think it quite works that way, but sure, I can't imagine losing a team. Fortunately I've never been a hockey fan so I was unaffected by the Thrashers moving. Not that they were worth crying over anyway.

Atlanta never really struck me as a hockey town.

[Worm Guts]

I feel you man. And no one can feel it like a Seahawk fan. Our SB loss to the Pats stills makes me wince and pang when I think about it.

No, our losses hurts more. We lost how many NFC Championship games in the early 2000s and lost in the SB.

There was never a worse loss than the Seahawks in that SB. Never. And only old Vike fans remember their SB losses. They happened years and years ago.

You guys won it the year before. You were playing with house money.

[blazza18]

What a night.

[Mich3006]

What a night.

Congrats to the Eagles... I´ll root for them against NE, no doubt about that

[Bulltalk]

No, our losses hurts more. We lost how many NFC Championship games in the early 2000s and lost in the SB.

There was never a worse loss than the Seahawks in that SB. Never. And only old Vike fans remember their SB losses. They happened years and years ago.

You guys won it the year before. You were playing with house money.

Yeah, but in retrospect the core of this team only won one SB, and this team was better than a one-and-done team in terms of championships. They underachieved in this way.

I agree that the Falcons loss was a bad one, second worst IMO. I just think the Seattle loss was worse. It was the most utterly shocking loss in a championship game that I've ever seen, kind of like when the US Mens basketball team lost on those three final plays in the Olympics. When I was watching the Falcons loss, I saw the momentum shift and I was like here-we-go...the Pats are going to make a run for it. Didn't surprise me that they made a game of it and eventually won it. It shocked the eff out of me when the Seahawks called that play and it got intercepted. I almost went into cardiac arrest.

[Pharmcat]

what a horrible SB matchup, belichick can gameplan against Foles while he golfs this week. This will be a blow out 45-7

[andrewww]

There was never a worse loss than the Seahawks in that SB. Never. And only old Vike fans remember their SB losses. They happened years and years ago.

You guys won it the year before. You were playing with house money.

Yeah, but in retrospect the core of this team only won one SB, and this team was better than a one-and-done team in terms of championships. They underachieved in this way.

I agree that the Falcons loss was a bad one, second worst IMO. I just think the Seattle loss was worse. It was the most utterly shocking loss in a championship game that I've ever seen, kind of like when the US Mens basketball team lost on those three final plays in the Olympics. When I was watching the Falcons loss, I saw the momentum shift and I was like here-we-go...the Pats are going to make a run for it. Didn't surprise me that they made a game of it and eventually won it. It shocked the eff out of me when the Seahawks called that play and it got intercepted. I almost went into cardiac arrest.

I understand your pain. I also know most people don't consider how fortunate the Kearse catch (a fluke catch let's be honest) set up SEA w/ 1st and goal to begin with.

SEA also didn't move the ball at all in the first except for chunk plays which is usually the formula to beating NE. Hard to dink and dunk us to death unless you're an elite QB (not saying Wilson isn't great, but at that point in his career he wasn't being counted on to produce that).

SEA outplayed us in the 3rd quarter, but we executed much better in the 4th.

On the bright side for you, at least you guys never lost immortality at going 19-0 on the Tyree catch which involved blatant holding by the NYG center O'Hara (who admitted to choking Richard Seymour to prevent Eli from getting sacked). If that was us getting away with the hold the entire media and fans would have grabbed their pitch forks (the build up to SB 52 has already begun w/ the narrative that the refs help us which is so far from the truth but hey haters gona have something to hold onto right?).

[Cactus Jack]

You guys won it the year before. You were playing with house money.

Yeah, but in retrospect the core of this team only won one SB, and this team was better than a one-and-done team in terms of championships. They underachieved in this way.

I agree that the Falcons loss was a bad one, second worst IMO. I just think the Seattle loss was worse. It was the most utterly shocking loss in a championship game that I've ever seen, kind of like when the US Mens basketball team lost on those three final plays in the Olympics. When I was watching the Falcons loss, I saw the momentum shift and I was like here-we-go...the Pats are going to make a run for it. Didn't surprise me that they made a game of it and eventually won it. It shocked the eff out of me when the Seahawks called that play and it got intercepted. I almost went into cardiac arrest.

I understand your pain.

No. No you don't. Until you lose a SB in that fashion, you won't. But, lucky for you, the chances of that happening again are very very unlikely.

Spoiler:

I'm hoping the Eagles nonetheless can somehow reverse fortune & pull it off!

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Bortles is crap.

Wasn't his fault whatsoever. Couldn't run the ball in the second half, and the defense totally imploded in the fourth. He did his job.

its true - i think they need a premier receiver though to take that next step.

they need a better strategy than the one they went with. Nice cross plays across the field but Bortles kept throwing it behind his intended receivers. The commentators picked up on it pretty quickly. and when he went down field, he kept under throwing or the maybe the receivers didn't take the right path.

none the less, a premier receiver could help - Bortles needs to throw better for sure.

[andrewww]

Yeah, but in retrospect the core of this team only won one SB, and this team was better than a one-and-done team in terms of championships. They underachieved in this way.

I agree that the Falcons loss was a bad one, second worst IMO. I just think the Seattle loss was worse. It was the most utterly shocking loss in a championship game that I've ever seen, kind of like when the US Mens basketball team lost on those three final plays in the Olympics. When I was watching the Falcons loss, I saw the momentum shift and I was like here-we-go...the Pats are going to make a run for it. Didn't surprise me that they made a game of it and eventually won it. It shocked the eff out of me when the Seahawks called that play and it got intercepted. I almost went into cardiac arrest.

I understand your pain.

No. No you don't. Until you lose a SB in that fashion, you won't. But, lucky for you, the chances of that happening again are very very unlikely.

Spoiler:

I'm hoping the Eagles nonetheless can somehow reverse fortune & pull it off!

David Tyree.

[Cactus Jack]

I understand your pain.

No. No you don't. Until you lose a SB in that fashion, you won't. But, lucky for you, the chances of that happening again are very very unlikely.

Spoiler:

I'm hoping the Eagles nonetheless can somehow reverse fortune & pull it off!

David Tyree.

The Tyree catch/Giants comeback isn't even in the same stratosphere of heartbreak.

2nd & Goal from the 1 yard line. The game was over at that point. One yard, my friend. It was a heck of a play by Butler to even have a chance at picking it off. But, of all the possibilities...We run the ball & score, the pass is incomplete...the chances of it ending the way it did? Again, very very small.

Right before that play happened, I actually was shocked that Belichick didn't call a timeout & decided to let the clock rundown. I thought for sure we had the game won at that point. No way could we screw it up!

[bwgood77]

There was never a worse loss than the Seahawks in that SB. Never. And only old Vike fans remember their SB losses. They happened years and years ago.

Falcons fans would disagree.

Yes. Both were basically lost with boneheaded decisions, but 25 points > 10 points. Not really a debate. And the Falcons didn't even need to gain yards with their run plays. Just needed to run clock and kick a FG. I really wish Seattle's loss was worse, and I won't argue beyond this, but nah.

The Seahawks loss was terrible, but it's not even in the same ballpark as Atlanta blowing a 25 point lead. Atlanta had that game well in hand and blew it. The Seahawks were somewhat lucky to be on the 1 yard line...with a crazy long catch a few plays before.

[bmurph128]

I feel you man. And no one can feel it like a Seahawk fan. Our SB loss to the Pats stills makes me wince and pang when I think about it.

No, our losses hurts more. We lost how many NFC Championship games in the early 2000s and lost in the SB.

There was never a worse loss than the Seahawks in that SB. Never. And only old Vike fans remember their SB losses. They happened years and years ago.

My Rams loss to the Patriots is up there.

Favored by two TDs, get dominated most of the game, come back to tie it..

Only to see some unknown bum QB named Tom Brady, who I watched at Michigan because I'm an Ohio State fan - be completely average in college - but drive down the field for the game winning field goal. I'll never forget how much I agreed with John Madden that the Patriots should just play for OT..

[andrewww]

No. No you don't. Until you lose a SB in that fashion, you won't. But, lucky for you, the chances of that happening again are very very unlikely.

Spoiler:

I'm hoping the Eagles nonetheless can somehow reverse fortune & pull it off!

David Tyree.

The Tyree catch/Giants comeback isn't even in the same stratosphere of heartbreak.

2nd & Goal from the 1 yard line. The game was over at that point. One yard, my friend. It was a heck of a play by Butler to even have a chance at picking it off. But, of all the possibilities...We run the ball & score, the pass is incomplete...the chances of it ending the way it did? Again, very very small.

Right before that play happened, I actually was shocked that Belichick didn't call a timeout & decided to let the clock rundown. I thought for sure we had the game won at that point. No way could we screw it up!

You're only looking at it from a SEA POV. The Tyree catch was hearbreaking because of 1. blatant holding by the NYG OL 2. Tyree would never make another catch in his NFL career and 3. Immortality was awaiting us.

To say one is or isn't in the same stratosphere is the same as those on realgm saying "_______ is better than ___________ and its not even close"... which is ridiculous and exaggerated.

Belichick didn't call a TO because SEA had to throw on one of their last 3 downs because SEA only had 1 TO left. It was a gamble that paid of by Belichick..so while you have be fortunate, you must also put yourself in a position to be lucky. Butler got beat on the same play in practice so its a deserved INT considering we scouted that possible play well in advance just in case it was a play call in the game and it was.

[bmurph128]

Falcons fans would disagree.

Yes. Both were basically lost with boneheaded decisions, but 25 points > 10 points. Not really a debate. And the Falcons didn't even need to gain yards with their run plays. Just needed to run clock and kick a FG. I really wish Seattle's loss was worse, and I won't argue beyond this, but nah.

The Seahawks loss was terrible, but it's not even in the same ballpark as Atlanta blowing a 25 point lead. Atlanta had that game well in hand and blew it. The Seahawks were somewhat lucky to be on the 1 yard line...with a crazy long catch a few plays before.

I agree.

And one yard is NOT guaranteed in the NFL - especially against a team like the Patriots.

Also, Brady had COMPLETELY destroyed Seattle's defense in the 4th quarter - IF Seattle had scored a TD with 26 seconds left instead of throwing an INT, the Patriots still had a timeout and would have been down 3....IMO it was more likely that game goes to OT if the Seahawks score there.

I understand Seahawks fans being devastated - but even a TD there doesn't guarantee a win with how bad their defense played in the 4th quarter.

On the other hand, Atlanta just had to make one of ten possible plays in the 2nd half to hold on, and didn't.

[hermes]

no sympathy for scott norwood in this thread