Former Miami Dolphins HC Brian Flores SUES the NFL FOR RACIAL DISCRIMINATION;owner offered HC $100k per loss 4 draft

[azcatz11]

I generally think there's a lot of factors to consider, but one that stands out as crazy to me is Eric Bienemy not getting hired. The Superbowl vs the 49ers should've been one of those where the assistant has already been hired as head coach for someone.

He doesn't call the plays and it's been reported his interviews have not been good.

I generally agree though. He's obviously very hands on with their offense and is Andy's right hand man. He should have a job

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Well, I guess bellichek is gonna have alot of answers to question. But this time, he can't give short answers.

[FlattenTheFear]

People are really missing the significance of this. By coming public with clear evidence of just what a mockery teams are making of hte Rooney Rule(something we've know forever but now he's forcing things), its showing the whole rule is worthless and that white owners are going to keep hiring white coaches they feel comfortable with which is denying opportunities to potentially qualifed candidates.

And the irony of the Rooney Rule coming from the Steelers owners who interviewed a black man seen as underqualified at the time but who blew them away and has now been their head coach forever and his next losing season will be his first one....

But you can see it itt, lots of white people simply don't believe the most qualified candidate can be a black man or that they deserve an actual opportunity to be considered instead of just a token check box.

Flores is going to lose, becaue too many people make too much money off the NFL and when you challenge the shield you lose. But he, like Kap is a good man for sacrificing his career for something bigger than just him. This will have an impact, especially if as this is a class action he can get others to join. Guys like Caldwell or Lewis or Dungy whose coaching careers are probably over anyway certainly have their own stories about being the token interview. As do countless assistants of course but many of them will be loathe to because it will derail their career.

This is real, and its a problem. It's not just oh we love this one coach. Access matters.

Jesus that's a hell of a reach

Not at all, you have people itt being willfully obtuse about just hiring the "best candidate" when it's statistically impossible for 30 out of 32 head coaches to be white in a sport that's played 70% by minorities.

This is always the dumbest point to make in the context of everybody in the NFL is racist. You can't point to an outcome and say it's evidence of racism. Racism is a motivation and even the simplest outcomes are multivariate. If outcomes are evidence of racism, well, then the fact that 61.6% of Americans are white but only 30% of NFL players are white would mean that there is some racist criteria in the selection process for players. I think it's plausible that individual owners are racist but there has to be actual proof, not speculation based on outcomes.

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Summarizing Shannon Sharpe in January 2022 (main bits from 2:46):

"Cooper Kupp can't be the best WR in the NFL even though he's had a record breaking season because he's a slot receiver, because Davante Adams has had more production in previous years, yada, yada, yada... and Kupp is a white player in a predominantly black position... just like how we look at Christian McCaffrey, I mean there's not a whole lot of white running backs in the HOF".

Skip Bayless nods along, saying... "Sometimes stereotypes are just facts". (Obviously trying to say that Kupp is not as athletic as his black counterparts, therefore the stereotype is a fact.)

Yet not a peep was heard anywhere. Not even by those expressing outrage in here over Lamar Jackson's throwing game being rightfully called out for not being very good (compared to other elite QBs) while Lamar is simultaneously lauded for having a great running game. The hypocrisy of it all.

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Say it with me folks, racism is bad and race-baiting is bad too.

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One of the most baffling exchanges when Mike Tomlin being rumoured for college jobs is racism.

[wco81]

If Flores tanked, he'd have been fired for being a losing coach.

Texans wanted to hire Josh McCown, who's never coached at any level apparently? Maybe not even a position or assistant coach?

[righterwriter]

If Flores tanked, he'd have been fired for being a losing coach.

Texans wanted to hire Josh McCown, who's never coached at any level apparently? Maybe not even a position or assistant coach?

McCown was a guy that rumor speculated they were interested in. Even if they were interested, is it not racist to say that he doesn't deserve an interview because he's white? If it was Donovan McNabb would people be saying it's wrong for him to even be interviewed?

No one here knows a thing about what it takes to be an NFL Head Coach, certainly not compared to people who work in a front office and have way more information and experience in what the job requires.

It's just people practicing pathetic, worthless race politics. Such a shame that this is what our society has turned into.

[wco81]

Nobody said anything about him getting an interview.

He was likely Texans' first choice, to hire a former player with no head coaching experience.

I don't know if he had some big background as an assistant like Kellen Moore or Eric Bienemy.

Or Byron Lefwich, these guys have proven track records, McCown apparently doesn't.

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If Flores tanked, he'd have been fired for being a losing coach.

Texans wanted to hire Josh McCown, who's never coached at any level apparently? Maybe not even a position or assistant coach?

No one here knows a thing about what it takes to be an NFL Head Coach, certainly not compared to people who work in a front office and have way more information and experience in what the job requires.
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Aren't you the one that liked the Detroit Hire and the Chargers Hire? Apparently you and the Detroit office have the same knowledge. Zero

[righterwriter]

If Flores tanked, he'd have been fired for being a losing coach.

Texans wanted to hire Josh McCown, who's never coached at any level apparently? Maybe not even a position or assistant coach?

No one here knows a thing about what it takes to be an NFL Head Coach, certainly not compared to people who work in a front office and have way more information and experience in what the job requires.
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Aren't you the one that liked the Detroit Hire and the Chargers Hire? Apparently you and the Detroit office have the same knowledge. Zero

No, I don't think that was me. I'd never heard of the Chargers coach before and found the Lions coach to be entertaining, much like the rest of NFL fans, but don't have much of an opinion on him.

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Ok