2023 Draft Prospects

iqureshi · Post #101 » by **iqureshi** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:09 pm

Fields would be the #1 pick in this draft. IF you put Hurts or Tua on the bears team, they would throw for 100 yards a game too. They had an atrocious O line/ 0 WR seperation. Even if they bring in a QB without fixing anything else they would look just as bad. Fields was the most accurate thrower in college history and how he can't throw? Fields on Philly/ Miami would be something. Both those teams would be significantly better.

El Turco · Post #102 » by **El Turco** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:30 pm

Seriously bears might have put the least talented team i have seen in recent years around fields. He'll be a star once he has a crew that resembles a pro team.

wco81 · Post #103 » by **wco81** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:43 pm

iqureshi wrote:Fields would be the #1 pick in this draft. IF you put Hurts or Tua on the bears team, they would throw for 100 yards a game too. They had an atrocious O line/ 0 WR seperation. Even if they bring in a QB without fixing anything else they would look just as bad. Fields was the most accurate thrower in college history and how he can't throw? Fields on Philly/ Miami would be something. Both those teams would be significantly better.

Yeah I see Hurts throw up 50-50 balls to Brown and Smith and them coming down with them. Seems they get a lot of big pass plays that way.

With injured shoulder, he's not going to make stick throws.

That's probably not his game anyways.

So get Fields a couple of stud WRs, or maybe a TE who's going to keep moving the chains.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #104 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Fri Feb 3, 2023 6:13 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:How would you rank the top prospects in this years class?

Tier 1:
Basically the entire Georgia defense...
In all seriousness though I have Ringo and Carter from Georgia's defense here. (I wouldve taken Ringo as the first DB in last year's stacked class)
Bresee
Anderson
Quentin Johnson
Addison

I think there is a drop off after those 6.

I have not been impressed by Ringo in the few games that I've watched him. I think he's still living off last years championship game INT. Because he's not been the best DB in the nation this season. Far from it.

Carter meanwhile is so ridiculously good. I can't think of a better DT prospect in recent memory? Not even Aaron Donald was this dominant in college?

I think Bryce gets taken 1st overall by Houston. Simply because they need a QB. But I wouldn't be surprised if Carter goes first.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #105 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Fri Feb 3, 2023 6:17 pm

RaoulDuke79 wrote:Texans need an entire team, may as well trade down and get as many picks as they can...they'll just miss on all of them anyways.

hermes · Post #106 » by **hermes** » Fri Feb 3, 2023 10:35 pm

apparently lukas van ness is flying up the draft boards. i knew he was good but it didn't seem like we have a first round talent on our d-line. but what do i know

Post #107 » by **Cactus Jack** » Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:31 pm

Happens every year.

Post #108 » by **DOT** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:04 pm

I've heard there's rumors that Levis is in consideration for #1 overall

Which just seems to me like Zach Wilson 2.0 waiting to happen.

Post #109 » by **Cactus Jack** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:32 pm

DOT wrote:I've heard there's rumors that Levis is in consideration for #1 overall

Which just seems to me like Zach Wilson 2.0 waiting to happen.

Scouts love his arm. But he just makes too many boneheaded decisions. Carson Wentz is the name that comes to mind with him.

Post #110 » by **DOT** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:53 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
DOT wrote:I've heard there's rumors that Levis is in consideration for #1 overall

Which just seems to me like Zach Wilson 2.0 waiting to happen.

Scouts love his arm. But he just makes too many boneheaded decisions. Carson Wentz is the name that comes to mind with him.

I'll admit, I haven't done much scouting of QBs in the last 2 years

But it seems to me that anticipation, knowing where to put the ball before you can see it, is the most important factor in being a QB. And yeah, confidence is part of that, but you can't wait until there's a window in the NFL, you have to create that window

So I hear people talk about him and Stroud and that's kind of a similar issue for them, Stroud never had to make those reads because he had a great O Line and receivers, so he could just wait for his guy to get open, where Levis didn't so his numbers look worse, but to me, it's kind of projection with both of them to say they'll develop that part of their game, and at least Stroud did have the Georgia game where he tore up a great defense, Levis didn't though that's not entirely his fault

Bryce Young's problem is basically just the size thing, and I get, that's an issue, but I still don't get taking Levis over him.

Post #111 » by **Cactus Jack** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:22 pm

DOT wrote:I'll admit, I haven't done much scouting of QBs in the last 2 years

But it seems to me that anticipation, knowing where to put the ball before you can see it, is the most important factor in being a QB. And yeah, confidence is part of that, but you can't wait until there's a window in the NFL, you have to create that window

So I hear people talk about him and Stroud and that's kind of a similar issue for them, Stroud never had to make those reads because he had a great O Line and receivers, so he could just wait for his guy to get open, where Levis didn't so his numbers look worse, but to me, it's kind of projection with both of them to say they'll develop that part of their game, and at least Stroud did have the Georgia game where he tore up a great defense, Levis didn't though that's not entirely his fault

Bryce Young's problem is basically just the size thing, and I get, that's an issue, but I still don't get taking Levis over him.

The biggest thing is how fast can they process?

Richardson's issue is mainly with his footwork & mechanics. He needs time to learn the position & how to read coverages, etc. Only one year as a starter.

azcatz11 · Post #112 » by **azcatz11** » Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:34 pm

Wow looks like Todd McShay fell off the wagon again…sad

Post #113 » by **Cactus Jack** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:51 am

azcatz11 wrote:Wow looks like Todd McShay fell off the wagon again…sad

Kiper always has the worst takes. It's astonishing that ESPN hasn't kicked his *** to the curb by now.

azcatz11 · Post #114 » by **azcatz11** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:01 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:Wow looks like Todd McShay fell off the wagon again…sad

Kiper always has the worst takes. It's astonishing that ESPN hasn't kicked his *** to the curb by now.

I can’t even listen to their podcast

Post #115 » by **Cactus Jack** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:57 pm

DOT wrote:I've heard there's rumors that Levis is in consideration for #1 overall

Which just seems to me like Zach Wilson 2.0 waiting to happen.

Read on Twitter

LAKESHOW · Post #116 » by **LAKESHOW** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:35 pm

Well that just dropped his draft stock..lol

azcatz11 · Post #117 » by **azcatz11** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:28 pm

Id be surprised if AR15 isn’t the first QB drafted

Post #118 » by **Cactus Jack** » Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:50 am

azcatz11 wrote:Id be surprised if AR15 isn’t the first QB drafted

Really?

Post #119 » by **DOT** » Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:54 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
DOT wrote:I've heard there's rumors that Levis is in consideration for #1 overall

Which just seems to me like Zach Wilson 2.0 waiting to happen.

Read on Twitter

Sounds like he'd be perfect for Tennessee.

azcatz11 · Post #120 » by **azcatz11** » Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:25 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:Id be surprised if AR15 isn’t the first QB drafted

Really?

I see him being the 4th QB taken. I think he'll end up going somewhere in the teens. Some team will take a chance on him because of the upside. But he's still 2 years away. You can't play him year one.

Obviously a project but his comp is Josh Allen…I just don’t think Bryce or CJ or Levis are good enough to go before him with that upside.