2025 Draft thread

Post #101 » by **Cactus Jack** » Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:12 pm

GoRapstheoriginal wrote:Hoping we can get Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter.

Pete will love Jeanty.

Post #102 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:08 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:

Kwesi: F them picks!!!

Read on Twitter

I would be disappointed if we had a capable GM when it comes to the draft. But Kwesi/front office doesn’t know how to draft, so not sad to see this at all haha

But knowing Kwesi. There will probably be a stud like Kenneth Grant who drops to 24. And Kwesi will over think it and trade down to then reach for some sub par D line player.

QB_Eagles · Post #103 » by **QB_Eagles** » Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:03 am

wco81 wrote:There's apparently some chatter that Sheddur would bring a lot of drama given his attitude and maybe Deion being like Lavar Ball.

Sheddur is suppose to be real good between the hashes with some talent but he's not the off-platform, off-schedule prospect that Mahomes was.

So he has to produce from within the pocket, make smart throws.

More of a game manager than a playmaker.

Yeah, if I were a fan of the team that ends up drafting him, I would not be excited.

He might work out, but I don't like the risk.

Post #104 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Mar 18, 2025 3:04 am

So what is the argument for Hunter over McMillan?

I really don’t care about the 2 way thing. Give me an elite WR or DB over just an okay WR/DB.

And when it comes to a WR prospect. I feel like McMillan is several tiers above Hunter.

El Turco · Post #105 » by **El Turco** » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:27 pm

If he focuses on being a DB he'll be much better than just okay. He should be a full time DB part time WR.

Jaydubb · Post #106 » by **Jaydubb** » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:35 pm

El Turco wrote:If he focuses on being a DB he'll be much better than just okay. He should be a full time DB part time WR.

100% agreed

wco81 · Post #107 » by **wco81** » Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:56 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
El Turco wrote:If he focuses on being a DB he'll be much better than just okay. He should be a full time DB part time WR.

100% agreed

I heard he’s light, even for a corner. May not be reliable tackler on run plays.

What a coincidence. Deion was famous for making business decisions.

Mr B · Post #108 » by **Mr B** » Tue Mar 18, 2025 3:13 pm

wco81 wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
El Turco wrote:If he focuses on being a DB he'll be much better than just okay. He should be a full time DB part time WR.

100% agreed

I heard he’s light, even for a corner. May not be reliable tackler on run plays.

What a coincidence. Deion was famous for making business decisions.

If Travis Hunter was as good as Deion no one would care if he could tackle. Travis Hunter measured 6’1” 190 lbs at the Combine by the way.

TFJava · Post #109 » by **TFJava** » Tue Mar 18, 2025 3:20 pm

2025 Dallas Cowboys draft picks

Round 1: 12th overall
Round 2: 44th overall
Round 3: 76th overall
Round 5: 149th overall
Round 5: 171st overall (compensatory)
Round 5: 174th overall (compensatory)
Round 6: 204th overall (acquired from Bills in Elam trade)
Round 6: 211th overall (compensatory)
Round 7: 239th overall (acquired from Titans in Murray trade)
Round 7: 247th overall

With all the draft capital the Cowboys currently have, should they attach one of their 5th round picks along with one of their 6th's and their 1st round pick to try to move up to the get one of the top 5 draft pick slots? OL and DE / Edge rusher is a need. I think they can get a solid RB in the 2nd round.

Jaydubb · Post #110 » by **Jaydubb** » Tue Mar 18, 2025 3:22 pm

Mr B wrote:
wco81 wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:100% agreed

I heard he’s light, even for a corner. May not be reliable tackler on run plays.

What a coincidence. Deion was famous for making business decisions.

If Travis Hunter was as good as Deion no one would care if he could tackle. Travis Hunter measured 6’1” 190 lbs at the Combine by the way.

Yeah pretty much.

Also kinda has a similar build to sauce Gardner in my opinion

Post #111 » by **Cactus Jack** » Tue Mar 18, 2025 3:25 pm

TFJava wrote:2025 Dallas Cowboys draft picks

Round 1: 12th overall
Round 2: 44th overall
Round 3: 76th overall
Round 5: 149th overall
Round 5: 171st overall (compensatory)
Round 5: 174th overall (compensatory)
Round 6: 204th overall (acquired from Bills in Elam trade)
Round 6: 211th overall (compensatory)
Round 7: 239th overall (acquired from Titans in Murray trade)
Round 7: 247th overall

With all the draft capital the Cowboys currently have, should they attach one of their 5th round picks along with one of their 6th's and their 1st round pick to try to move up to the get one of the top 5 draft pick slots? OL and DE / Edge rusher is a need. I think they can get a solid RB in the 2nd round.

Those picks don't have a ton of value. You would have to include a 2nd at minimum to get into the top 5. It likely would cost more.

Mr B · Post #112 » by **Mr B** » Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:06 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
TFJava wrote:2025 Dallas Cowboys draft picks

Round 1: 12th overall
Round 2: 44th overall
Round 3: 76th overall
Round 5: 149th overall
Round 5: 171st overall (compensatory)
Round 5: 174th overall (compensatory)
Round 6: 204th overall (acquired from Bills in Elam trade)
Round 6: 211th overall (compensatory)
Round 7: 239th overall (acquired from Titans in Murray trade)
Round 7: 247th overall

With all the draft capital the Cowboys currently have, should they attach one of their 5th round picks along with one of their 6th's and their 1st round pick to try to move up to the get one of the top 5 draft pick slots? OL and DE / Edge rusher is a need. I think they can get a solid RB in the 2nd round.

Those picks don't have a ton of value. You would have to include a 2nd at minimum to get into the top 5. It likely would cost more.

Cowboys have too many needs to be trading away multiple picks.

Post #113 » by **DOT** » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:10 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:So what is the argument for Hunter over McMillan?

I really don’t care about the 2 way thing. Give me an elite WR or DB over just an okay WR/DB.

And when it comes to a WR prospect. I feel like McMillan is several tiers above Hunter.

I would say mostly it's a speed thing. Tet's only real numbers were in the 4.55 range, all hand timed at his pro day, which isn't good for a WR

Tet having middling speed limits his ceiling as a WR. People see him closer to Drake London (still a really good WR) than Mike Evans

I know more than a few draft guys who have Hunter as the #1 CB and the #1 WR, even assuming he only plays 1 position in the pros, which increases the number of teams who would theoretically draft him high, as both those positions are ones you only take high if you need them.

Post #114 » by **DOT** » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:14 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
TFJava wrote:2025 Dallas Cowboys draft picks

Round 1: 12th overall
Round 2: 44th overall
Round 3: 76th overall
Round 5: 149th overall
Round 5: 171st overall (compensatory)
Round 5: 174th overall (compensatory)
Round 6: 204th overall (acquired from Bills in Elam trade)
Round 6: 211th overall (compensatory)
Round 7: 239th overall (acquired from Titans in Murray trade)
Round 7: 247th overall

With all the draft capital the Cowboys currently have, should they attach one of their 5th round picks along with one of their 6th's and their 1st round pick to try to move up to the get one of the top 5 draft pick slots? OL and DE / Edge rusher is a need. I think they can get a solid RB in the 2nd round.

Those picks don't have a ton of value. You would have to include a 2nd at minimum to get into the top 5. It likely would cost more.

Put it this way

Jags have the 5th pick, I wouldn't trade down to 12 without a future 1st, and I'd still likely ask for more. Say 12, 76, their 2026 1st for 5 and our 4th rounder this year

Or another way, if you believe Jimmy Johnson's trade value chart, the 5th pick has a value of 1700, the 12th 1200. Dallas's 2nd (44th) has a value of 460, so it would take more than their 2nd to match values.

Post #115 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:43 pm

DOT wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:So what is the argument for Hunter over McMillan?

I really don’t care about the 2 way thing. Give me an elite WR or DB over just an okay WR/DB.

And when it comes to a WR prospect. I feel like McMillan is several tiers above Hunter.

I would say mostly it's a speed thing. Tet's only real numbers were in the 4.55 range, all hand timed at his pro day, which isn't good for a WR

Tet having middling speed limits his ceiling as a WR. People see him closer to Drake London (still a really good WR) than Mike Evans

I know more than a few draft guys who have Hunter as the #1 CB and the #1 WR, even assuming he only plays 1 position in the pros, which increases the number of teams who would theoretically draft him high, as both those positions are ones you only take high if you need them.

Does it though? Adams, Kupp, Thomas, Hopkins, AJ Brown (4.49 40), St Brown are all recent All Pro WRs who ran in the 4.5s or worse. McMillan is far bigger than any of those guys as well.

QB_Eagles · Post #116 » by **QB_Eagles** » Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:51 pm

wco81 wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
El Turco wrote:If he focuses on being a DB he'll be much better than just okay. He should be a full time DB part time WR.

100% agreed

I heard he’s light, even for a corner. May not be reliable tackler on run plays.

What a coincidence. Deion was famous for making business decisions.

Tackling is more about attitude than weight.

Post #117 » by **Cactus Jack** » Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:11 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:So what is the argument for Hunter over McMillan?

I really don’t care about the 2 way thing. Give me an elite WR or DB over just an okay WR/DB.

And when it comes to a WR prospect. I feel like McMillan is several tiers above Hunter.

I don't think teams are as enamored with T-Mac. I don't think he's going to be the 1st receiver to come off the board. I think Golden goes before him.

azcatz11 · Post #118 » by **azcatz11** » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:08 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:So what is the argument for Hunter over McMillan?

I really don’t care about the 2 way thing. Give me an elite WR or DB over just an okay WR/DB.

And when it comes to a WR prospect. I feel like McMillan is several tiers above Hunter.

I don't think teams are as enamored with T-Mac. I don't think he's going to be the 1st receiver to come off the board. I think Golden goes before him.

Check this out.

Read on Twitter

?s=46

Post #119 » by **Cactus Jack** » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:23 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:So what is the argument for Hunter over McMillan?

I really don’t care about the 2 way thing. Give me an elite WR or DB over just an okay WR/DB.

And when it comes to a WR prospect. I feel like McMillan is several tiers above Hunter.

I don't think teams are as enamored with T-Mac. I don't think he's going to be the 1st receiver to come off the board. I think Golden goes before him.

Check this out.

Read on Twitter
?s=46

I know you're a fan of his, but he's still limited as a passer. I watched way too much Bama this past season to fall for any of that stuff. The film is still 99.9% of the evaluation in my mind.

Mr B · Post #120 » by **Mr B** » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:25 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:So what is the argument for Hunter over McMillan?

I really don’t care about the 2 way thing. Give me an elite WR or DB over just an okay WR/DB.

And when it comes to a WR prospect. I feel like McMillan is several tiers above Hunter.

I don't think teams are as enamored with T-Mac. I don't think he's going to be the 1st receiver to come off the board. I think Golden goes before him.

If that pushes Tet down to 12 I’d be cool with that.