Week 1 Matchups and Games Discussion

[bwgood77]

As a Raider fan, that game was terrifying. Hunt looks electric. Smith, now with their QBotF breathing down his neck, is finally making throws he did in college, taking risks. Its going to take a team to really get after Smith, put him on the ground, to stop KC.

On the flip side, possible that the Pats are finally wearing down? They still look good, like playoff good, but I questioned some of their moves - never believed Cooks is a legitimate volume #1 WR, I think their defense is highly suspect (much more so if Hightower is out for extended time), thought Gilmore was a boondoggle at DB.. loved the Gillislee add though, he's going to make a fine Blount. But this is the first significant chink in the armor in the Pats in quite some time.

The Pats played a coach who is very good with time to game plan (more than a week) and are in a terrible division, so they will be fine. The AFC doesn't have a clear cut team (especially if you don't consider them one) so it's tough to count them out.

[FNQ]

Kareem Hunt and Tyreke Hill owner checking in. Drafted both in all three of my leagues this year...looking like a pure genius atm. I do get a strong feeling this was a fluke game though.

I own 0 shares in Tyreek Hill, which is amazing because of the sheer volume of teams I drafted.

I regret this. He is a born playmaker and barring injury looks to me to be a WR1. Field Yates relayed a story on the Fantasy Focus podcast where Marcus Peters + Eric Berry came up to OC Nagy and HC Reid, and said that Hill needed to be the main focal point of the offense because they simply couldnt keep up with him. After yesterday, I dont think that's bluster.

[bwgood77]

Kareem Hunt and Tyreke Hill owner checking in. Drafted both in all three of my leagues this year...looking like a pure genius atm. I do get a strong feeling this was a fluke game though.

I own 0 shares in Tyreek Hill, which is amazing because of the sheer volume of teams I drafted.

I regret this. He is a born playmaker and barring injury looks to me to be a WR1. Field Yates relayed a story on the Fantasy Focus podcast where Marcus Peters + Eric Berry came up to OC Nagy and HC Reid, and said that Hill needed to be the main focal point of the offense because they simply couldnt keep up with him. After yesterday, I dont think that's bluster.

I accidentally drafted him in one draft (auto pick took over for one pick) but I wasn't disappointed to have him in my lineup last night.

[jwise44]

I'm seriously confused bjj, but I and-1ed you anyways cause I love you hahaha...I was saying you and me were an old married couple

I really don't get that post though

My bad. I should wait for you sober up before I pick on you,

Hahaha see...youre the only one that gets me!!!!

[jwise44]

This week may be the first time in a long time I am legitimately scared of the Texans losing to Jacksonville...

[bmurph128]

As a Raider fan, that game was terrifying. Hunt looks electric. Smith, now with their QBotF breathing down his neck, is finally making throws he did in college, taking risks. Its going to take a team to really get after Smith, put him on the ground, to stop KC.

On the flip side, possible that the Pats are finally wearing down? They still look good, like playoff good, but I questioned some of their moves - never believed Cooks is a legitimate volume #1 WR, I think their defense is highly suspect (much more so if Hightower is out for extended time), thought Gilmore was a boondoggle at DB.. loved the Gillislee add though, he's going to make a fine Blount. But this is the first significant chink in the armor in the Pats in quite some time.

The Pats played a coach who is very good with time to game plan (more than a week) and are in a terrible division, so they will be fine. The AFC doesn't have a clear cut team (especially if you don't consider them one) so it's tough to count them out.

The game last night screams anomaly to me. The Chiefs are a really good team - going to win a bunch of games...but losing Berry is going to hurt.

I'm not ready to say the Chiefs are better than the Patriots....it was just a few years ago that the Chiefs beat them 41-14 on MNF and everyone buried the Patriots....they've won two super bowls since then.

This one seems more significant because they don't lose when they lead in the fourth quarter and they rarely lose at home...maybe Brady is feeling his age, but I'm not betting on that yet.

I think it's more likely that their team started to hear all the undefeated talk and it got to them.

I do think the Chiefs are going to win the AFC West, but I thought that before last night too.

[bmurph128]

This week may be the first time in a long time I am legitimately scared of the Texans losing to Jacksonville...

Kind of a toss up game, but Texans being at home, that's who I'm going with. Going to need to see the Jags put that talent together before I start picking them to win tough road games.

Your fantasy team on the other hand is in some trouble this week...

[El Turco]

Kareem Hunt

Fantasy afterthought

really? nobody expected this much but he was all over espn fantasy pages a week leading up to the season as a possible rb1 candidate. i got him in two leagues, not sure why i picked lynch over him here though.

I forgive you

Not worried, you'll trade him to me for McFadden after zeke gets locked up

[RaoulDuke79]

This week may be the first time in a long time I am legitimately scared of the Texans losing to Jacksonville...

Is Bortles playing? If so, fear not my friend.

Then again, with Ass Chin calling plays you never know.

[bwgood77]

As a Raider fan, that game was terrifying. Hunt looks electric. Smith, now with their QBotF breathing down his neck, is finally making throws he did in college, taking risks. Its going to take a team to really get after Smith, put him on the ground, to stop KC.

On the flip side, possible that the Pats are finally wearing down? They still look good, like playoff good, but I questioned some of their moves - never believed Cooks is a legitimate volume #1 WR, I think their defense is highly suspect (much more so if Hightower is out for extended time), thought Gilmore was a boondoggle at DB.. loved the Gillislee add though, he's going to make a fine Blount. But this is the first significant chink in the armor in the Pats in quite some time.

The Pats played a coach who is very good with time to game plan (more than a week) and are in a terrible division, so they will be fine. The AFC doesn't have a clear cut team (especially if you don't consider them one) so it's tough to count them out.

The game last night screams anomaly to me. The Chiefs are a really good team - going to win a bunch of games...but losing Berry is going to hurt.

I'm not ready to say the Chiefs are better than the Patriots....it was just a few years ago that the Chiefs beat them 41-14 on MNF and everyone buried the Patriots....they've won two super bowls since then.

This one seems more significant because they don't lose when they lead in the fourth quarter and they rarely lose at home...maybe Brady is feeling his age, but I'm not betting on that yet.

I think it's more likely that their team started to hear all the undefeated talk and it got to them.

I do think the Chiefs are going to win the AFC West, but I thought that before last night too.

The Chiefs are always hard for me to figure out. They have historically played above their talent. Andy Reid always gets his teams into the playoffs. They won a handful of games on fluke plays last year as well.

But they do seem like the best bet for the AFC West, considering Denver's QB situation, the Raiders also having won 5 or so games last year on their last possession and on some gambles, with a QB coming back from injury, and the always injury prone Chargers.

[bmurph128]

The Pats played a coach who is very good with time to game plan (more than a week) and are in a terrible division, so they will be fine. The AFC doesn't have a clear cut team (especially if you don't consider them one) so it's tough to count them out.

The game last night screams anomaly to me. The Chiefs are a really good team - going to win a bunch of games...but losing Berry is going to hurt.

I'm not ready to say the Chiefs are better than the Patriots....it was just a few years ago that the Chiefs beat them 41-14 on MNF and everyone buried the Patriots....they've won two super bowls since then.

This one seems more significant because they don't lose when they lead in the fourth quarter and they rarely lose at home...maybe Brady is feeling his age, but I'm not betting on that yet.

I think it's more likely that their team started to hear all the undefeated talk and it got to them.

I do think the Chiefs are going to win the AFC West, but I thought that before last night too.

The Chiefs are always hard for me to figure out. They have historically played above their talent. Andy Reid always gets his teams into the playoffs. They won a handful of games on fluke plays last year as well.

But they do seem like the best bet for the AFC West, considering Denver's QB situation, the Raiders also having won 5 or so games last year on their last possession and on some gambles, with a QB coming back from injury, and the always injury prone Chargers.

Broncos are the only team IMO that can't win the division.

Most people would probably have Carr ahead of Rivers, but swap them and IMO the Raiders would be a better team. So the Chargers IMO have the best QB in the division.

The Raiders offensive line is what put them over the top last year - obviously the Chargers pissed off the football Gods, but if they get some injury breaks I could see them making noise this year.

The Raiders are odd. As you pointed out, they won so many close games last year. Part of that seemed to be Carr being clutch, but I don't trust their defense, at all, even though Mack is great. I think the Chargers could easily come in 2nd place and grab a wildcard spot - if the injuries stop.

[bwgood77]

The game last night screams anomaly to me. The Chiefs are a really good team - going to win a bunch of games...but losing Berry is going to hurt.

I'm not ready to say the Chiefs are better than the Patriots....it was just a few years ago that the Chiefs beat them 41-14 on MNF and everyone buried the Patriots....they've won two super bowls since then.

This one seems more significant because they don't lose when they lead in the fourth quarter and they rarely lose at home...maybe Brady is feeling his age, but I'm not betting on that yet.

I think it's more likely that their team started to hear all the undefeated talk and it got to them.

I do think the Chiefs are going to win the AFC West, but I thought that before last night too.

The Chiefs are always hard for me to figure out. They have historically played above their talent. Andy Reid always gets his teams into the playoffs. They won a handful of games on fluke plays last year as well.

But they do seem like the best bet for the AFC West, considering Denver's QB situation, the Raiders also having won 5 or so games last year on their last possession and on some gambles, with a QB coming back from injury, and the always injury prone Chargers.

Broncos are the only team IMO that can't win the division.

Most people would probably have Carr ahead of Rivers, but swap them and IMO the Raiders would be a better team. So the Chargers IMO have the best QB in the division.

The Raiders offensive line is what put them over the top last year - obviously the Chargers pissed off the football Gods, but if they get some injury breaks I could see them making noise this year.

The Raiders are odd. As you pointed out, they won so many close games last year. Part of that seemed to be Carr being clutch, but I don't trust their defense, at all, even though Mack is great. I think the Chargers could easily come in 2nd place and grab a wildcard spot - if the injuries stop.

If the Chargers can stay healthy (particularly the OL, Keenan Allen and Melvin Gordon, and of course Rivers), I won't count them out against anyone. Especially if they get back Mike Williams at some point.

Last year opening weekend they were crushing the Chiefs IN KC before Keenan Allen went down with an injury that completely changed the momentum. They were up 24-3 in the 3rd and 27-10 in the 4th before losing in OT. Look at the win probability throughout the game here.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201609110kan.htm

After the Chiefs scored with 3 min left to cut it to 27-20, the Chargers went 3 and out, ran the clock under 2 minutes, but the worst part about it was their rookie punter came in and had a 17 yard punt at that crucial moment.

This same rookie punter cost them another game (at least one more) by botching the hold on a FG....he may have botched two of them.

[Yunsen]

I felt bad for Marsh last night. He's a decent edge rusher and special teams player (the running into the kicker penalty was really unsurprising though) but was asked to do way too much. Him trying to cover Hunt on the long TD was ridiculous and it's kind of incredible he almost caught him.

[Cactus Jack]

I felt bad for Marsh last night. He's a decent edge rusher and special teams player (the running into the kicker penalty was really unsurprising though) but was asked to do way too much. Him trying to cover Hunt on the long TD was ridiculous and it's kind of incredible he almost caught him.

Marsh is a special teams player. When he does get the occasional sack, he almost always will draw a penalty on top of it. Dude isn't the brightest!

I'm happy he's New England's problem now.


This sums up Marsh!

[bluejerseyjinx]

You just made my night!

Seahawks are approaching Warriors status Jack...sure, GB isn't an easy place to play, but the Hawks went into New England and won last year....and the Hawks are better. Pack might win obviously (and obviously I'll be rooting for them hard), but Seattle can win anywhere.

Here's to hoping the Rams are in first place for a few weeks with the Luckless Colts coming to town

We haven't won in GB since 1999. Were blown out last year. I think its fair to say I expect a loss.

Once again we disagree, lol. I have K.C., your Sea Chickens and New Orleans all winning on the road this week.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Kareem Hunt

Fantasy afterthought

I was all over him back in June and July when I drafted most of my fantasy teams.

[Cactus Jack]

Seahawks are approaching Warriors status Jack...sure, GB isn't an easy place to play, but the Hawks went into New England and won last year....and the Hawks are better. Pack might win obviously (and obviously I'll be rooting for them hard), but Seattle can win anywhere.

Here's to hoping the Rams are in first place for a few weeks with the Luckless Colts coming to town

We haven't won in GB since 1999. Were blown out last year. I think its fair to say I expect a loss.

Once again we disagree, lol. I have K.C., your Sea Chickens and New Orleans all winning on the road this week.

I just don't see it. I hope I'm wrong. Rodgers is too damn good, man.

[Cactus Jack]

Kareem Hunt

Fantasy afterthought

I was all over him back in June and July when I drafted most of my fantasy teams.

He wasn't even the starter back then lol.

[bluejerseyjinx]

We haven't won in GB since 1999. Were blown out last year. I think its fair to say I expect a loss.

Once again we disagree, lol. I have K.C., your Sea Chickens and New Orleans all winning on the road this week.

I just don't see it. I hope I'm wrong. Rodgers is too damn good, man.

The only way I see you guys losing this game is if it is left up to Blair Walsh. He may lose up to 3 games for you guys this year.

[Cactus Jack]

Once again we disagree, lol. I have K.C., your Sea Chickens and New Orleans all winning on the road this week.

I just don't see it. I hope I'm wrong. Rodgers is too damn good, man.

The only way I see you guys losing this game is if it is left up to Blair Walsh. He may lose up to 3 games for you guys this year.

Yeah, don't remind me about Walsh! I hated that move! Not a fan.