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Post#121 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:16 am

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Cactus Jack wrote:You're a Bengals fan, so it makes sense.
Were all the scouts, coaches, and GMs they polled, Bengals fans too? Lmao

Honestly, I don't really care about the opinion of a few scouts or whatever. Does it mean they're right? No.

Your homer takes aren't going to sway everyone. Despite the numerous times you've expressed your opinion on the matter. :wink:
You're the one who posted the link...

I can't help it he's the most accurate QB to ever play in the NFL, stats don't lie.

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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#122 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:20 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Were all the scouts, coaches, and GMs they polled, Bengals fans too? Lmao

Honestly, I don't really care about the opinion of a few scouts or whatever. Does it mean they're right? No.

Your homer takes aren't going to sway everyone. Despite the numerous times you've expressed your opinion on the matter. :wink:
You're the one who posted the link...

I can't help it he's the most accurate QB to ever play in the NFL, stats don't lie.

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No, it was posted by AZcatz. I gave my opinion.
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Post#123 » by azcatz11 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:41 am

Micah Prescott wrote:Stafford is not a tier-1 QB

It's such a glaring flaw it basically makes the whole list void.


Did you see who votes on this? It’s all nfl personnel. According to Sando, Stafford has been high 2 tier for a number of years.
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Post#124 » by azcatz11 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:44 am

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Cactus Jack wrote:"Pure" lol

Sorry, but I prefer my QB's to be dual threats. Especially with how much the game has evolved. You have to win both inside & outside the pocket. Guys who can do both, have a clear advantage in today's game.
Meh, I'll take the most accurate QB to ever play in the NFL, personally. But if you want today's version of Mick Vick, that's all you, brother.


Even though burrow has elite pocket awareness I’d still prefer Allen over him. And Mahomes. Highest I can place him is third at the moment.
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Post#125 » by QB_Eagles » Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:13 am

azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:"Pure" lol

Sorry, but I prefer my QB's to be dual threats. Especially with how much the game has evolved. You have to win both inside & outside the pocket. Guys who can do both, have a clear advantage in today's game.
Meh, I'll take the most accurate QB to ever play in the NFL, personally. But if you want today's version of Mick Vick, that's all you, brother.


Even though burrow has elite pocket awareness I’d still prefer Allen over him. And Mahomes. Highest I can place him is third at the moment.

While I agree (have to grade on result), I also think Mahomes would be average if he played with the Bengals offense.
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Post#126 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Aug 15, 2025 11:31 am

azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:"Pure" lol

Sorry, but I prefer my QB's to be dual threats. Especially with how much the game has evolved. You have to win both inside & outside the pocket. Guys who can do both, have a clear advantage in today's game.
Meh, I'll take the most accurate QB to ever play in the NFL, personally. But if you want today's version of Mick Vick, that's all you, brother.


Even though burrow has elite pocket awareness I’d still prefer Allen over him. And Mahomes. Highest I can place him is third at the moment.
You ranked him 6th lmaooooo
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Post#127 » by azcatz11 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 1:54 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
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JujitsuFlip wrote:Meh, I'll take the most accurate QB to ever play in the NFL, personally. But if you want today's version of Mick Vick, that's all you, brother.


Even though burrow has elite pocket awareness I’d still prefer Allen over him. And Mahomes. Highest I can place him is third at the moment.
You ranked him 6th lmaooooo


There is not a universe he's better than Josh Allen or Mahomes. Poll the board and ask. I'm with Jack that I prefer mobile QB's...you are being a homer for no reason
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Post#128 » by Lakers In 5 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:06 pm

The corpse of Joe Flacco has played in the postseason more recently than Joe Burrow. What are we arguing here?
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#129 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:34 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:Stafford is not a tier-1 QB

It's such a glaring flaw it basically makes the whole list void.


Did you see who votes on this? It’s all nfl personnel. According to Sando, Stafford has been high 2 tier for a number of years.

He has never been tier-1

Even the year he won a ring he led the NFL in INTs.

And currently? He's been off and on dealing with injuries. He wouldn't be in my top-10 and he has absolutely no business at all in the same tier as Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar, Allen.
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Post#130 » by azcatz11 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:36 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:Stafford is not a tier-1 QB

It's such a glaring flaw it basically makes the whole list void.


Did you see who votes on this? It’s all nfl personnel. According to Sando, Stafford has been high 2 tier for a number of years.

He has never been tier-1

Even the year he won a ring he led the NFL in INTs.

And currently? He's been off and on dealing with injuries. He wouldn't be in my top-10 and he has absolutely no business at all in the same tier as Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar, Allen.


Okay I agree with you I'm just saying let's not invalidate the entire list because of that...when the voters are GM's, former GM's, etc.

Sando is very well respected for this. It's not just a coaches poll that the coaches answer blindly
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#131 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Aug 15, 2025 4:17 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Did you see who votes on this? It’s all nfl personnel. According to Sando, Stafford has been high 2 tier for a number of years.

He has never been tier-1

Even the year he won a ring he led the NFL in INTs.

And currently? He's been off and on dealing with injuries. He wouldn't be in my top-10 and he has absolutely no business at all in the same tier as Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar, Allen.


Okay I agree with you I'm just saying let's not invalidate the entire list because of that...when the voters are GM's, former GM's, etc.

Sando is very well respected for this. It's not just a coaches poll that the coaches answer blindly

I would put all my faith into a poll that was *SCOUTS ONLY*

A lot of GMs are not versed in the area of evaluating athletic talent and rely on the input of scouts and others for their opinions. Kind of like Zuckerberg is the GM of Meta but doesn't really know how code AI himself and relies on others to tell him what makes an elite coder.
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#132 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Aug 15, 2025 4:47 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Even though burrow has elite pocket awareness I’d still prefer Allen over him. And Mahomes. Highest I can place him is third at the moment.
You ranked him 6th lmaooooo


There is not a universe he's better than Josh Allen or Mahomes. Poll the board and ask. I'm with Jack that I prefer mobile QB's...you are being a homer for no reason
He's way better than Allen, tf u mean lol

He can actually beat Mahomes in the playoffs.

And for the like 7th time, he's the most accurate QB in the history of the NFL, not debatable, an indisputable fact.
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#133 » by azcatz11 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 4:59 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:You ranked him 6th lmaooooo


There is not a universe he's better than Josh Allen or Mahomes. Poll the board and ask. I'm with Jack that I prefer mobile QB's...you are being a homer for no reason
He's way better than Allen, tf u mean lol

He can actually beat Mahomes in the playoffs.

And for the like 7th time, he's the most accurate QB in the history of the NFL, not debatable, an indisputable fact.


Most accurate doesn't mean much. Tua is second in NFL history Jimmy G is third. That stat skews towards the last 20 years anyways.
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#134 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:02 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Even though burrow has elite pocket awareness I’d still prefer Allen over him. And Mahomes. Highest I can place him is third at the moment.
You ranked him 6th lmaooooo


There is not a universe he's better than Josh Allen or Mahomes. Poll the board and ask. I'm with Jack that I prefer mobile QB's...you are being a homer for no reason

Yet Burrow is the only other QB besides Brady to beat Mahomes in Kansas City and go to a Super Bowl. I disagree with you and Jack on this one.
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#135 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:03 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
There is not a universe he's better than Josh Allen or Mahomes. Poll the board and ask. I'm with Jack that I prefer mobile QB's...you are being a homer for no reason
He's way better than Allen, tf u mean lol

He can actually beat Mahomes in the playoffs.

And for the like 7th time, he's the most accurate QB in the history of the NFL, not debatable, an indisputable fact.


Most accurate doesn't mean much. Tua is second in NFL history Jimmy G is third. That stat skews towards the last 20 years anyways.
Ah, skim over the part about beating Mahomes in the playoffs, got it.
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#136 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:08 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:He's way better than Allen, tf u mean lol

He can actually beat Mahomes in the playoffs.

And for the like 7th time, he's the most accurate QB in the history of the NFL, not debatable, an indisputable fact.


Most accurate doesn't mean much. Tua is second in NFL history Jimmy G is third. That stat skews towards the last 20 years anyways.
Ah, skim over the part about beating Mahomes in the playoffs, got it.

#1 overall in completion% has more validity than team wins.

Even comp% requires WRs though, and Burrow is throwing at Chase, Tua threw at prime Tyreek. The rest of that list is a head scratcher though. It is a weird mix of QBs I have to say.
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Post#137 » by azcatz11 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:15 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:He's way better than Allen, tf u mean lol

He can actually beat Mahomes in the playoffs.

And for the like 7th time, he's the most accurate QB in the history of the NFL, not debatable, an indisputable fact.


Most accurate doesn't mean much. Tua is second in NFL history Jimmy G is third. That stat skews towards the last 20 years anyways.
Ah, skim over the part about beating Mahomes in the playoffs, got it.


I’m not an advanced stats guy. I just watch the games. My eye test tells me Mahomes and Allen are a tier above
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#138 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:16 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:
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azcatz11 wrote:
Most accurate doesn't mean much. Tua is second in NFL history Jimmy G is third. That stat skews towards the last 20 years anyways.
Ah, skim over the part about beating Mahomes in the playoffs, got it.

#1 overall in completion% has more validity than team wins.

Even comp% requires WRs though, and Burrow is throwing at Chase, Tua threw at prime Tyreek. The rest of that list is a head scratcher though. It is a weird mix of QBs I have to say.
Brees at 3 makes sense, it is kinda what he was known for.

But yeah, i don't understand people like azcats that brush off accuracy for a position that the prime duty is throwing the ball, it's kind of important. Josh Allen all way down at tied for 35th, with uncle Rico lol

Burrow had a 76.3 completion% in college though, so it's not like we didn't know he would be a sniper. His big knock has always been his power, he underthrows Chase and Tee sometimes when they have their man beat downfield.
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#139 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:16 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Most accurate doesn't mean much. Tua is second in NFL history Jimmy G is third. That stat skews towards the last 20 years anyways.
Ah, skim over the part about beating Mahomes in the playoffs, got it.


I’m not an advanced stats guy. I just watch the games. My eye test tells me Mahomes and Allen are a tier above
Lol ok azcats, based on nothing. About as useful as a fart in the wind. Good talk buddy.
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Re: Top 10 QB's 

Post#140 » by azcatz11 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:38 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Ah, skim over the part about beating Mahomes in the playoffs, got it.


I’m not an advanced stats guy. I just watch the games. My eye test tells me Mahomes and Allen are a tier above
Lol ok azcats, based on nothing. About as useful as a fart in the wind. Good talk buddy.


Well you are throwing out like QB percentage means anything when it doesn’t anymore and you know it…the landscape is significantly different than it was 20 years ago. Burrow being #1 in that respect doesn’t mean anything.

You act like I have burrow poorly ranked
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