NFC East

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Who will win the division next season?

Commanders
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Cowboys
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Eagles
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Re: NFC East 

Post#1261 » by Mr B » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:48 pm

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Kam Chancellor had the same issue (neck) & had to call it quits.

I believe Daryl Johnston had a similar neck issue and it ended his career too.
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Post#1262 » by Mamba42 » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:01 pm

I bet LVE gives it one more go next year (I don't think he should) and then retires similar to what Travis Frederick did.
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Post#1263 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:08 pm

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Post#1264 » by Cactus Jack » Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:38 pm

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Post#1265 » by Cactus Jack » Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:36 pm

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Post#1266 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:29 am

Witherspoon is having a year yes. But CeeDee had 11 catches, 143 yards on Sauce and the Jets.

Not sure how much of that was on Sauce, but some of it was.
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Post#1267 » by Jaydubb » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:25 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:Witherspoon is having a year yes. But CeeDee had 11 catches, 143 yards on Sauce and the Jets.

Not sure how much of that was on Sauce, but some of it was.

Jalen Carter has been my #1 guy in the draft for almost a year prior to the draft, but I was really liking Devon Witherspoon too. I thought Carter would go top 5ish and I was hoping Witherspoon was somewhat in the area if the eagles couldn’t get Carter.

He’s such a unique player because he’s physical like a linebacker but is fantastic in coverage too. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a few monster seasons where he has 5+ sacks and 5+ interceptions in the same season.
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Post#1268 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:20 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Witherspoon is having a year yes. But CeeDee had 11 catches, 143 yards on Sauce and the Jets.

Not sure how much of that was on Sauce, but some of it was.

Jalen Carter has been my #1 guy in the draft for almost a year prior to the draft, but I was really liking Devon Witherspoon too. I thought Carter would go top 5ish and I was hoping Witherspoon was somewhat in the area if the eagles couldn’t get Carter.

He’s such a unique player because he’s physical like a linebacker but is fantastic in coverage too. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a few monster seasons where he has 5+ sacks and 5+ interceptions in the same season.

He's most effective playing Nickle. In coverage, run support & as a blitzer. But he plays on the outside as well depending on the matchup. I'm not sure we've really seen anyone like him, who can lineup & play all over the field & be such a natural at it. He's very good at diagnosing plays before they're happening. I haven't seen a DB with his instincts since maybe Earl Thomas.

Sauce is a great player. But he's an outside corner & doesn't necessarily have the ability to play Nickle on an every down basis.


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Post#1269 » by Mr B » Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:42 pm

I asked last week if Bland is the best CB in the league. According to PFF he’s actually the 2nd best CB in the NFL.

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Post#1270 » by Jaydubb » Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:06 pm

Mr B wrote:I asked last week if Bland is the best CB in the league. According to PFF he’s actually the 2nd best CB in the NFL.

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I wonder how long that will last
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Post#1271 » by Mr B » Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:24 pm

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Mr B wrote:I asked last week if Bland is the best CB in the league. According to PFF he’s actually the 2nd best CB in the NFL.

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I wonder how long that will last

I’ve been watching some videos on Bland and even when the ball isn’t thrown his way he’s doing all the right things and taking all the right angles. He always seems to be right where he’s supposed to be. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens next season when Diggs comes back.
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Post#1272 » by QB_Eagles » Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:27 pm

DaRon Bland? More like DaRon Blanket.
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Post#1273 » by Jaydubb » Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:37 pm

DaRon Bland? More like Devonta beat your ass.

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Post#1274 » by Jaydubb » Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:52 pm

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Mr B wrote:I asked last week if Bland is the best CB in the league. According to PFF he’s actually the 2nd best CB in the NFL.

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I wonder how long that will last

I’ve been watching some videos on Bland and even when the ball isn’t thrown his way he’s doing all the right things and taking all the right angles. He always seems to be right where he’s supposed to be. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens next season when Diggs comes back.

That looks like a very good draft pick for you guys. Actually the 2022 cowboys draft is looking like there’s quite a few guys in there that are contributors. I think I remember analysts being harsh on the cowboys draft as the picks were coming in.
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Post#1275 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:58 pm

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Jaydubb wrote:I wonder how long that will last

I’ve been watching some videos on Bland and even when the ball isn’t thrown his way he’s doing all the right things and taking all the right angles. He always seems to be right where he’s supposed to be. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens next season when Diggs comes back.

That looks like a very good draft pick for you guys. Actually the 2022 cowboys draft is looking like there’s quite a few guys in there that are contributors. I think I remember analysts being harsh on the cowboys draft as the picks were coming in.

I knew that we nailed that draft once BJJ started slamming it and labeled Tyler Smith a bust.

Unfortunately BJJ was very high on Mazi Smith, so that poor guy probably has no hope.
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Post#1276 » by Mamba42 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:17 am

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Mr B wrote:I’ve been watching some videos on Bland and even when the ball isn’t thrown his way he’s doing all the right things and taking all the right angles. He always seems to be right where he’s supposed to be. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens next season when Diggs comes back.

That looks like a very good draft pick for you guys. Actually the 2022 cowboys draft is looking like there’s quite a few guys in there that are contributors. I think I remember analysts being harsh on the cowboys draft as the picks were coming in.

I knew that we nailed that draft once BJJ started slamming it and labeled Tyler Smith a bust.

Unfortunately BJJ was very high on Mazi Smith, so that poor guy probably has no hope.
The thing with Mazi Smith is most rookie defensive tackles don't really produce a lot. Jalen Carter is an exception and maybe even Jordan Davis too honestly.
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Re: NFC East 

Post#1277 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:06 am

Mamba42 wrote:
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Jaydubb wrote:That looks like a very good draft pick for you guys. Actually the 2022 cowboys draft is looking like there’s quite a few guys in there that are contributors. I think I remember analysts being harsh on the cowboys draft as the picks were coming in.

I knew that we nailed that draft once BJJ started slamming it and labeled Tyler Smith a bust.

Unfortunately BJJ was very high on Mazi Smith, so that poor guy probably has no hope.
The thing with Mazi Smith is most rookie defensive tackles don't really produce a lot. Jalen Carter is an exception and maybe even Jordan Davis too honestly.

1. They reached on Mazi. The other NT Keeanu Benton was in my eyes much better value & has been a standout for Pittsburgh so far. PFF has him at a near 70 score. While Mazi has been well below average & just a disappointment for the most part.

2. The Cowboys we're kind of in a tough spot picking at the backend of the round. As this draft didn't have a ton of impact guys, especially in that range.
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Post#1278 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:41 pm

I guess the Cowboys are back to, "Dak to the rescue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" :bowdown: :clap: :rock: :rocking:
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Post#1279 » by Jaydubb » Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:26 pm

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Jaydubb wrote:That looks like a very good draft pick for you guys. Actually the 2022 cowboys draft is looking like there’s quite a few guys in there that are contributors. I think I remember analysts being harsh on the cowboys draft as the picks were coming in.

I knew that we nailed that draft once BJJ started slamming it and labeled Tyler Smith a bust.

Unfortunately BJJ was very high on Mazi Smith, so that poor guy probably has no hope.
The thing with Mazi Smith is most rookie defensive tackles don't really produce a lot. Jalen Carter is an exception and maybe even Jordan Davis too honestly.

I agree with this. I thought mazi was drafted too high, but DT is a position that typically takes time to develop. In college you can overpower smaller guys, in the NFL you can’t overpower guys as often anymore. You need to have good technique and counter moves to succeed.

I thought jordan davis had a decent rookie year before his injury in week 8 or whenever it was. Having him out for like 4-5 games really showed how important he was for the eagles run defense. Thing is, the DT position is a position that doesn’t typically rack up a ton of stats, especially for guys that their strength is against the run (like Jordan Davis and mazi smith).

Micah parsons said it when mazi was drafted but mazi is gonna make everybody’s job easier. He’s gonna take on blockers so that other guys have lanes to fill. This is where Jordan Davis’s value is as well. Mazi is still a rookie. He’s not having a great year, but he’s still got plenty of time to develop. Jordan davis needed to develop as well and I think he’s having a pretty good 2nd year.

I always say the most important offseason for a young player is your first full offseason (typically between years 1 and 2 for non injured players). Rookie year before the draft, the players aren’t really trying to get better so much as they are just trying to get drafted. Their first full offseason will give them much more time to develop and get better, so as a fan I think it’s very telling for a player’s development to see how he does after his first full offseason. If he gets better then great, you can continue to increase his projections, but if he’s still struggling then I think that’s when fans need to start worrying.
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Re: NFC East 

Post#1280 » by Jaydubb » Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:42 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:I knew that we nailed that draft once BJJ started slamming it and labeled Tyler Smith a bust.

Unfortunately BJJ was very high on Mazi Smith, so that poor guy probably has no hope.
The thing with Mazi Smith is most rookie defensive tackles don't really produce a lot. Jalen Carter is an exception and maybe even Jordan Davis too honestly.

1. They reached on Mazi. The other NT Keeanu Benton was in my eyes much better value & has been a standout for Pittsburgh so far. PFF has him at a near 70 score. While Mazi has been well below average & just a disappointment for the most part.

2. The Cowboys we're kind of in a tough spot picking at the backend of the round. As this draft didn't have a ton of impact guys, especially in that range.

I thought they should’ve gone Brian branch or Nolan smith. Yes, Nolan smith hasn’t done that well so far but he also isn’t getting very many opportunities because the eagles are absolutely stacked at edge rusher right now. Branch on the other hand is having a good rookie season so far in Detroit.

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