Dak Prescott thread

[Micah Prescott]

Why are you bringing up the Packers game? Who cares, that was last year. Why don't you bring up his play so far this year because this is where we are NOW. You really expect me to be satisfied with Dak this past weekend when he got sacked 3 times, had a fumble and 2 int's in the red zone while being the highest paid player in the NFL. Field goal, field goal and field goal all season long. Ever wonder why the Cowboys never go deep when playoffs come around? this is one of these concerns.

Okay, I'll be sure to remind you of that when you bring up games from the past.

This year? our defense is much worse than our offense.

Sacks aren't on Dak either, so pointless to bring them up. Mahomes was sacked twice last night and I bet you don't blame Mahomes.

The run defense has been light years better the last 2 weeks.

The defense in general propped their numbers up the last two weeks but it's the Giants and Steelers, two of the worst offenses in the NFL. And now we can see the Saints and Ravens are not as great as with thought too, they just both looked miraculous against our defense.

They get a real test these next two weeks, Lions and 9ers have offense.

[Micah Prescott]

I will say, the defense did much better than I expected vs the Steelers. Given that Parson and Lawrence were out. I'll give them credit, they deserve it.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Most of time my point isn't even that Dak played good or bad. Usually my point is that the game of football is much bigger than the QB, and that teams can and have won Super Bowls with mediocre QB play. Not even rare. On a few occasions teams have won Super Bowls with flat out bad QB play.

Mahomes threw 0 TDs last night, and 1 INT....the Chiefs still won. Because the Chiefs have a solid "TEAM"....defense, coaching, everything.

It's time fans stop pointing at Dak, he is what he is, and start asking the rest of the team to get their sh*t together.[/quote]
Nobody on the defense makes 60 mill a year. Nice try. If you think the Cowboys suck at coaching and defense, then stop enabling Jerry and falling for his crap. You still just don't get it.

So because Dak makes $60m the rest of the cap space gets a free pass?

The QB on most NFL teams makes the most money and down the road $60per will be average pay for a QB.

Hell probably will be next season. Currently there are 7 QBs who makes more than $50M per. You can bet we will see $70-per next pay cycle.

Because of Dak and Lamb's contract there will never be enough cap space to put better pieces on defense or other areas of need. I remember you were the most upset when Jerry did nothing in free agency. But I know why. Deep down you will never admit it but you know damn well Dak is not good enough to carry a team. As long as dumb Dak is in Dallas and playing with C.D. Lamb( who does not like Dak) there will never been enough $$$ to properly build a championship level defense to go along with things. You sure spend a lot time always crapping on the defense every time you get a chance when your boy is the one of the main reasons why. I really don't want to here it.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Well I do expect a $60M QB to step up and be the reason you won (on most occasions) and last I checked they won the game because of what Dak did. At this point in the season that’s all you can really ask of him.

I guess your totally happy with Dak's play moving forward without any concerns.

When did I say that?

Reading between the lines the past couple weeks, that is the vibe feeling I'm getting from you. You more than anyone in here knows how this is all going to end. Seems like you are accepting of Dak for the next 4 years now that he is resigned.

[bluejerseyjinx]

That's just false, I literally just said in my last post in here that Dak played poorly vs the Packers.

I am capable of saying that Dak can play poorly....I mean I just did. But when have you ever been capable of saying that Dak played well? Never. It's pure bias with you that goes beyond reality or anything that actually happens on the field.

Why are you bringing up the Packers game? Who cares, that was last year. Why don't you bring up his play so far this year because this is where we are NOW. You really expect me to be satisfied with Dak this past weekend when he got sacked 3 times, had a fumble and 2 int's in the red zone while being the highest paid player in the NFL. Field goal, field goal and field goal all season long. Ever wonder why the Cowboys never go deep when playoffs come around? this is one of these concerns.

Okay, I'll be sure to remind you of that when you bring up games from the past.

This year? our defense is much worse than our offense.

Sacks aren't on Dak either, so pointless to bring them up. Mahomes was sacked twice last night and I bet you don't blame Mahomes.

Pointless. Wow. So even when the O-line doesn't give your boy enough time for a play he can't even throw the damn ball away. I don't buy that sh.t for one minute. 2nd and 10 is a lot better than 2nd and 18, especially in the red zone. My God, young generation Cowboy fans are so stupid.

[Cactus Jack]

Dak putting up Geno like stats. Pretty impressive.

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[bluejerseyjinx]

Dak putting up Geno like stats. Pretty impressive.

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Fraudulent.

[Cactus Jack]

Dak putting up Geno like stats. Pretty impressive.

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Fraudulent.

Mahomes can't even crack this list.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Dak putting up Geno like stats. Pretty impressive.

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Fraudulent.

Mahomes can't even crack this list.

He doesn't have to.

[Micah Prescott]

Fraudulent.

Mahomes can't even crack this list.

He doesn't have to.

And why does Dak have to get passing yardage but Mahomes doesn't?

Let's think about this one for sec....

[bluejerseyjinx]

Not falling for your Dak Prescott love fest game.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Mahomes can't even crack this list.

He doesn't have to.

And why does Dak have to get passing yardage but Mahomes doesn't?

Let's think about this one for sec....

Probably because Mahomes doesn't play from behind most of the time Like Dak does for one thing. Look at last night's game for an example; Chiefs ran 78 total plays in the game. 39 running plays, 39 passing plays. Great balance, ball control, time of possession, keeping the opponent's defense on the field 18-20 minutes longer than yours, etc. A lot of things that don't show up in your Micah book of analytics. I mean when Rice gets back and you want to bring back a guy like Tyreek Hill back, I'm sure Mahomes is more than capable of competing with your boy in that department.
All those passing yards Dak gets in garbage time against tomato can teams hasn't gotten him anywhere.

[Micah Prescott]

He doesn't have to.

And why does Dak have to get passing yardage but Mahomes doesn't?

Let's think about this one for sec....

Probably because Mahomes doesn't play from behind most of the time Like Dak for one thing.

Exactly. The Saints put up 13 points on the Chiefs and 44 points on Dallas.

Mahomes had 0 TDs and 1 INT....but like you said he didn't even need to throw a TD. Unlike Dak who needed to throw 6 TDs to win.

[bluejerseyjinx]

And why does Dak have to get passing yardage but Mahomes doesn't?

Let's think about this one for sec....

Probably because Mahomes doesn't play from behind most of the time Like Dak for one thing.

Exactly. The Saints put up 13 points on the Chiefs and 44 points on Dallas.

Mahomes had 0 TDs and 1 INT....but like you said he didn't even need to throw a TD. Unlike Dak who needed to throw 6 TDs to win.

Oh please. If Dak played better in the beginning of the games when they really need him to, he wouldn't have to throw so much. But that's when he gets his numbers and stats. Wait till we are down by 20+, the game is basically over and teams go to prevent defense. That's how you become the highest paid player in the NFL.

[Mr B]

I guess your totally happy with Dak's play moving forward without any concerns.

When did I say that?

Reading between the lines the past couple weeks, that is the vibe feeling I'm getting from you. You more than anyone in here knows how this is all going to end. Seems like you are accepting of Dak for the next 4 years now that he is resigned.

We all know how things are likely going to end. That doesn’t mean I can’t enjoy the good moments when they happen during the regular season. I don’t have any new perception of Dak. I still don’t think Dak has what it takes to win in the playoffs but then I’ve also never seen him win a game like this. I’m just going to enjoy the good and fun moments when they happen while having zero expectations.

Oh and you don’t have to read between the lines with me. I say exactly what’s on my mind.

[Mr B]

Dak putting up Geno like stats. Pretty impressive.

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I keep waiting for Stroud to come back to Earth. Doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen anytime soon.

[Mr B]

Mahomes can't even crack this list.

He doesn't have to.

And why does Dak have to get passing yardage but Mahomes doesn't?

Let's think about this one for sec....

At the end of the day the numbers don’t matter. Numbers are great but they’re not the goal. Some of the greatest QB’s in NFL history didn’t put up great numbers. Some of the highest stat guys in NFL history have no rings. I would be perfectly fine if Dak were in the bottom half of the league in passing but he had multiple Super Bowl rings.

You are right though when you say that it’s not ALL his fault because the defense did let them down in the playoffs the last couple of seasons but a big part of those playoff losses were on him. He’s made huge mistakes in the most important games.

In year 9 can he change what he’s been and avoid those very costly mistakes? Personally I don’t think so but we will see. As long as he’s still starting he has a chance the change the narrative on himself.

[Micah Prescott]

He doesn't have to.

And why does Dak have to get passing yardage but Mahomes doesn't?

Let's think about this one for sec....

At the end of the day the numbers don’t matter. Numbers are great but they’re not the goal. Some of the greatest QB’s in NFL history didn’t put up great numbers. Some of the highest stat guys in NFL history have no rings. I would be perfectly fine if Dak were in the bottom half of the league in passing but he had multiple Super Bowl rings.

You are right though when you say that it’s not ALL his fault because the defense did let them down in the playoffs the last couple of seasons but a big part of those playoff losses were on him. He’s made huge mistakes in the most important games.

In year 9 can he change what he’s been and avoid those very costly mistakes? Personally I don’t think so but we will see. As long as he’s still starting he has a chance the change the narrative on himself.

Yeah I agree with all this. I'm not giving Dak a free pass for his mistakes. He was *part* of the issue in our playoff losses.

As far as year 9 goes? I have little to no hope. Dak is the same, but the team as a whole is significantly worse IMO. Specifically the defense. Zimmer has created a huge downgrade. We were a top-10 defense last season. We need at least an average defense to compete.

Now, that said. In the playoffs last season the defense was absolutely putrid. So maybe Zimmer just inherited a downgrade that somehow manifested in the post season.

[Mr B]

And why does Dak have to get passing yardage but Mahomes doesn't?

Let's think about this one for sec....

At the end of the day the numbers don’t matter. Numbers are great but they’re not the goal. Some of the greatest QB’s in NFL history didn’t put up great numbers. Some of the highest stat guys in NFL history have no rings. I would be perfectly fine if Dak were in the bottom half of the league in passing but he had multiple Super Bowl rings.

You are right though when you say that it’s not ALL his fault because the defense did let them down in the playoffs the last couple of seasons but a big part of those playoff losses were on him. He’s made huge mistakes in the most important games.

In year 9 can he change what he’s been and avoid those very costly mistakes? Personally I don’t think so but we will see. As long as he’s still starting he has a chance the change the narrative on himself.

Yeah I agree with all this. I'm not giving Dak a free pass for his mistakes. He was *part* of the issue in our playoff losses.

As far as year 9 goes? I have little to no hope. Dak is the same, but the team as a whole is significantly worse IMO. Specifically the defense. Zimmer has created a huge downgrade. We were a top-10 defense last season. We need at least an average defense to compete.

Now, that said. In the playoffs last season the defense was absolutely putrid. So maybe Zimmer just inherited a downgrade that somehow manifested in the post season.

I think the problem with Zimmer’s defense is the personnel. He’s trying to run his defense with most of Quinn’s guys still here.

[QB_Eagles]

And why does Dak have to get passing yardage but Mahomes doesn't?

Let's think about this one for sec....

Probably because Mahomes doesn't play from behind most of the time Like Dak for one thing.

Exactly. The Saints put up 13 points on the Chiefs and 44 points on Dallas.

Mahomes had 0 TDs and 1 INT....but like you said he didn't even need to throw a TD. Unlike Dak who needed to throw 6 TDs to win.

bjj, you lost this particular argument.