Dak Prescott thread

[therealbig3]

He's not playing great right now.

And his first two SBs he was trash.

Does SBs = playoffs?

Also, thought he led the team back against the Eagles in his 2nd SB. And did it again vs the 49ers. He was awesome.

Just stop. This is only a comparison in your head. Mahomes is GOAT level. Dak is a good RS QB that isn’t even that good right now. And is coming off a huge playoff flame out. These guys aren’t in the same stratosphere.

When Dak gets criticized, the answer isn’t “but Mahomes isn’t doing so hot either!” lol what kind of logic is this?

Compare Dak to guys like Geno Smith, Jalen Hurts, Kirk Cousins…those are the guys at his level.

SBs = Super Bowls.

His first two Super Bowls Mahomes was trash.

I'm not a Dak fan, but QB performance doesn't exist in a vacuum. If Mahomes is GOAT level, then his current performance certainly doesn't reflect that.

People forget Alex Smith was in the MVP conversation in 2017 as he had the best season in his career. I shared the minority opinion of switching to Mahomes but it was because of salary. Now that the offense around Mahomes isn't GOAT level anymore (Tyreek gone, Kelce losing a step, OL much worse), he also doesn't look so GOATish anymore.

Dak's capability doesn't make up for the percentage of cap his salary takes up, but it was also foolish to assume Mahomes was so great it would make him immune from the effects of his surrounding cast getting worse.

That was my point. Playoff performance does not equal Super Bowls. Mahomes is an elite playoff performer. To say he’s not based on his struggles in his first two SBs doesn’t make sense.

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. Mahomes isn’t putting up legendary numbers with his weakest supporting cast maybe ever…so what does this say about Dak? How does it even put them in the same conversation?

This sounds more like you wanting to say “Mahomes is overrated and here’s why” rather than talk about Dak.

[QB_Eagles]

Mahomes is an elite playoff performer.

If we ignore his first two SBs.

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. Mahomes isn’t putting up legendary numbers with his weakest supporting cast maybe ever…so what does this say about Dak? How does it even put them in the same conversation?

This sounds more like you wanting to say “Mahomes is overrated and here’s why” rather than talk about Dak.

This is the Dak Prescott thread and the Mahomes discussion started when bjj argued that Mahomes current mediocre stats are because he can win just by being awesome (link), instead of acknowledging that the Chiefs are undefeated right now because of their defense. It was a very silly argument and that's why I initially got involved (here).

I also happen to think Mahomes was overrated and crowned (by some) the new GOAT very prematurely. "Was" because that is getting corrected now.

[Jaydubb]

Dak is a top 40ish QB

[therealbig3]

Mahomes is an elite playoff performer.

If we ignore his first two SBs.

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. Mahomes isn’t putting up legendary numbers with his weakest supporting cast maybe ever…so what does this say about Dak? How does it even put them in the same conversation?

This sounds more like you wanting to say “Mahomes is overrated and here’s why” rather than talk about Dak.

This is the Dak Prescott thread and the Mahomes discussion started when bjj argued that Mahomes current mediocre stats are because he can win just by being awesome (link), instead of acknowledging that the Chiefs are undefeated right now because of their defense. It was a very silly argument and that's why I initially got involved (here).

I also happen to think Mahomes was overrated and crowned (by some) the new GOAT very prematurely. "Was" because that is getting corrected now.

And I’m telling you that SBs on their own do not define a person’s playoffs. Mahomes was still great in those overall playoff runs. And has proven himself over and over again as an individual player in big time spots in the playoffs. Everyone has bad games. This is just hating for no reason. Especially if we’re comparing him to Dak of all people lmao.

Nothing is really being corrected, most people acknowledge that Mahomes has peaked higher than any other QB ever, and certainly already has a case to be GOAT based on that alone.

And yeah, Mahomes struggling with a weak supporting cast through 5 games really does nothing to affect what he’s already accomplished, and it doesn’t mean we can start acting like he’s not that much better than Dak, when he clearly is.

It’s like we’re forgetting that Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Manning, etc. ALL had some mediocre seasons here and there mixed in with their great ones. It wasn’t the norm though, just like it isn’t for Mahomes. Especially since he backs it up in the playoffs (let’s talk about him overachieving and leading his team to the SB as a young starter twice and struggling in the big game more than him actually leading back to back double digit comebacks in the SB in the last two years).

[QB_Eagles]

And I’m telling you that SBs on their own do not define a person’s playoffs. Mahomes was still great in those overall playoff runs. And has proven himself over and over again as an individual player in big time spots in the playoffs. Everyone has bad games. This is just hating for no reason. Especially if we’re comparing him to Dak of all people lmao.

Nothing is really being corrected, most people acknowledge that Mahomes has peaked higher than any other QB ever, and certainly already has a case to be GOAT based on that alone.

And yeah, Mahomes struggling with a weak supporting cast through 5 games really does nothing to affect what he’s already accomplished, and it doesn’t mean we can start acting like he’s not that much better than Dak, when he clearly is.

It’s like we’re forgetting that Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Manning, etc. ALL had some mediocre seasons here and there mixed in with their great ones. It wasn’t the norm though, just like it isn’t for Mahomes. Especially since he backs it up in the playoffs (let’s talk about him overachieving and leading his team to the SB as a young starter twice and struggling in the big game more than him actually leading back to back double digit comebacks in the SB in the last two years).

If Andy Reid retires because of a heart attack, Mahomes gets a plethora of bad HCs and doesn't win anything anymore, it would definitely affect his legacy.

[therealbig3]

And I’m telling you that SBs on their own do not define a person’s playoffs. Mahomes was still great in those overall playoff runs. And has proven himself over and over again as an individual player in big time spots in the playoffs. Everyone has bad games. This is just hating for no reason. Especially if we’re comparing him to Dak of all people lmao.

Nothing is really being corrected, most people acknowledge that Mahomes has peaked higher than any other QB ever, and certainly already has a case to be GOAT based on that alone.

And yeah, Mahomes struggling with a weak supporting cast through 5 games really does nothing to affect what he’s already accomplished, and it doesn’t mean we can start acting like he’s not that much better than Dak, when he clearly is.

It’s like we’re forgetting that Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Manning, etc. ALL had some mediocre seasons here and there mixed in with their great ones. It wasn’t the norm though, just like it isn’t for Mahomes. Especially since he backs it up in the playoffs (let’s talk about him overachieving and leading his team to the SB as a young starter twice and struggling in the big game more than him actually leading back to back double digit comebacks in the SB in the last two years).

If Andy Reid retires because of a heart attack, Mahomes gets a plethora of bad HCs and doesn't win anything anymore, it would definitely affect his legacy.

And he’s still the best ever.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Mahomes is an elite playoff performer.

If we ignore his first two SBs.

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. Mahomes isn’t putting up legendary numbers with his weakest supporting cast maybe ever…so what does this say about Dak? How does it even put them in the same conversation?

This sounds more like you wanting to say “Mahomes is overrated and here’s why” rather than talk about Dak.

This is the Dak Prescott thread and the Mahomes discussion started when bjj argued that Mahomes current mediocre stats are because he can win just by being awesome (link), instead of acknowledging that the Chiefs are undefeated right now because of their defense. It was a very silly argument and that's why I initially got involved (here).

I also happen to think Mahomes was overrated and crowned (by some) the new GOAT very prematurely. "Was" because that is getting corrected now.

[bluejerseyjinx]

And I’m telling you that SBs on their own do not define a person’s playoffs. Mahomes was still great in those overall playoff runs. And has proven himself over and over again as an individual player in big time spots in the playoffs. Everyone has bad games. This is just hating for no reason. Especially if we’re comparing him to Dak of all people lmao.

Nothing is really being corrected, most people acknowledge that Mahomes has peaked higher than any other QB ever, and certainly already has a case to be GOAT based on that alone.

And yeah, Mahomes struggling with a weak supporting cast through 5 games really does nothing to affect what he’s already accomplished, and it doesn’t mean we can start acting like he’s not that much better than Dak, when he clearly is.

It’s like we’re forgetting that Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Manning, etc. ALL had some mediocre seasons here and there mixed in with their great ones. It wasn’t the norm though, just like it isn’t for Mahomes. Especially since he backs it up in the playoffs (let’s talk about him overachieving and leading his team to the SB as a young starter twice and struggling in the big game more than him actually leading back to back double digit comebacks in the SB in the last two years).

If Andy Reid retires because of a heart attack, Mahomes gets a plethora of bad HCs and doesn't win anything anymore, it would definitely affect his legacy.

[Mr B]

Dak is a top 40ish QB

I wouldn’t even put him that high as far as playoff performing QB’s rank.

[Mr B]

And I’m telling you that SBs on their own do not define a person’s playoffs. Mahomes was still great in those overall playoff runs. And has proven himself over and over again as an individual player in big time spots in the playoffs. Everyone has bad games. This is just hating for no reason. Especially if we’re comparing him to Dak of all people lmao.

Nothing is really being corrected, most people acknowledge that Mahomes has peaked higher than any other QB ever, and certainly already has a case to be GOAT based on that alone.

And yeah, Mahomes struggling with a weak supporting cast through 5 games really does nothing to affect what he’s already accomplished, and it doesn’t mean we can start acting like he’s not that much better than Dak, when he clearly is.

It’s like we’re forgetting that Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Manning, etc. ALL had some mediocre seasons here and there mixed in with their great ones. It wasn’t the norm though, just like it isn’t for Mahomes. Especially since he backs it up in the playoffs (let’s talk about him overachieving and leading his team to the SB as a young starter twice and struggling in the big game more than him actually leading back to back double digit comebacks in the SB in the last two years).

If Andy Reid retires because of a heart attack, Mahomes gets a plethora of bad HCs and doesn't win anything anymore, it would definitely affect his legacy.

Would it though? People still highly regard Aaron Rodgers and he hasn’t won jack in a really long time. In fact some would even call him a playoff choker since he won that 1 title early in his career.

[Jaydubb]

Dak is a top 40ish QB

I wouldn’t even put him that high as far as playoff performing QB’s rank.

Top 10 in nfc east. Well, on a good day.

[QB_Eagles]

And he’s still the best ever.

So it's settled already? Mahomes is the best ever?

[bluejerseyjinx]

And he’s still the best ever.

So it's settled already? Mahomes is the best ever?

[QB_Eagles]

And he’s still the best ever.

So it's settled already? Mahomes is the best ever?

[therealbig3]

And he’s still the best ever.

So it's settled already? Mahomes is the best ever?

Well depends what you value. Brady and Rodgers have him beat in terms of longevity as of right now. Brady has the rings over him, but that’s a team accomplishment.

But I’d like to see a good case that he didn’t peak higher than any other QB ever. And that can’t really ever be taken from him.

[Cactus Jack]

And he’s still the best ever.

So it's settled already? Mahomes is the best ever?

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[bluejerseyjinx]

So it's settled already? Mahomes is the best ever?

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Yet he still won the Super Bowl and nobody has yet to beat him in the last 11 games.

[Micah Prescott]

The Chiefs definitely don't get enough credit for their amazing defense. They were arguably the best defense in the NFL last season and still top-5ish this season.

In the Super Bowl they held the 9ers to 22 points, and the 9ers were the 2nd highest scoring offense in the NFL. Mahomes doesn't win a ring without that defense.


Too many fans can only see the QB, but that said, Mahomes is definitely an amazing QB who can make all the throws.

[Mariner]

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Yet he still won the Super Bowl and nobody has yet to beat him in the last 11 games.

The chiefs didn’t score in the second half of the AFC championship game and basically didn’t score in the first half of the SB and won both games.
How did Mahomes do it?

[bluejerseyjinx]

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Yet he still won the Super Bowl and nobody has yet to beat him in the last 11 games.

The chiefs didn’t score in the second half of the AFC championship game and basically didn’t score in the first half of the SB and won both games.
How did Mahomes do it?

Did you watch the game?