State Of Cowboys Union; Today And The last 30 years. Where do the Cowboys have it all wrong and where is it going?

[Mariner]

Have to go now. Will answer more later.

[Otis Driftwood]

Let’s talk panthers!

Or let's keep it in topic.

What do you think Cowboys should do going forward to fix their team?

Draft well…

Build a team that is ready to compete in 4 years…

Absorb 3 years of Dak's money then let him go…

Move forward.

Because this team as currently constituted isn’t going anywhere.

[Micah Prescott]

All of the other 31 teams that don't win a ring need to do the exact same things.

Coaches need to coach better
Players need to play better
GMs need to draft better
etc

It is never case of just one thing, it's never that black and white. The success of the 90s Cowboys should be given to literally everyone involved. Jerry, Jimmy, Troy, Emmitt, Irvin, O-Line, The Defense, etc etc etc right down the the punter and water boys

It took everyone to get those rings.

And likewise, the failures are also ALL INVOLVED. Jerry, McCarthy, Dak, Zeke, O-Line, Defense, etc etc etc

[Cactus Jack]

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[bluejerseyjinx]

What about Jets? Jaguars?

Seems rather peculiar to pick Niners. Any childhood traumas?

You still bringing them up?
Thought we agreed not too.

Why not? Why bring Niners and not various other teams? I dont understand focusing on Niners particularly in a Cowboys thread.

Because they don't want to talk about the mess with their own team. It was suppose to be an honest discussion on what has been wrong with the Cowboys the past 3 decades, today and where they go from here for all general posters. Sometimes fans from other teams look more objectively at the Cowboys (unless they are haters) gives a nice prospective at times and makes you look at things in a different angle. Outside of Mr. B., none of the other Cowboy posters have even addressed the questions brought forth in this thread. If they can't even be honest about their own team how can we take any stock to anything they say about anyone else's team.

[bluejerseyjinx]

In 2018 you dont know if it is going to lead to a super bowl or not, you can only go on with what you'd achieved by that time. But at least you accept progress is valuable even if the year does not end with a super bowl, took you awhile but welcome to rationality.

I am sure Panthers fans enjoyed watching their team more than Jaguars or whoever was the Cowboys of that time. Nobody brags or celebrates losing in the super bowl, that's just you fighting with wind mills.

My argument has not changed.
The context was evaluating the past.In that regard SB losses are irrelevant.
Your scenario had no relevance given the context of comparing the past.

I am not saying anything about the past, I am just testing the "year without a super bowl win is worthless" hypothesis. But your reluctance in answering speak volumes.

Maybe they don't have the ability to have an honest discussion about the Cowboys. I still haven't heard any ideas on dealing with the Current mess the Cowboys are in or a vision moving forward. I guess they are waiting for Jerry to tell them how to think and feel.

[bluejerseyjinx]

You should try hitting the "new topic" button for your Niners obsession.

This thread is in fact about dumb Dak, Jerry and Cowboys fans.

Exactly. Not only are they doing their best to derail the thread, now its been turned into trolling the whiner fans now.

[Micah Prescott]

You still bringing them up?
Thought we agreed not too.

Why not? Why bring Niners and not various other teams? I dont understand focusing on Niners particularly in a Cowboys thread.

Because they don't want to talk about the mess with their own team. It was suppose to be an honest discussion on what has been wrong with the Cowboys the past 3 decades, today and where they go from here for all general posters. Sometimes fans from other teams look more objectively at the Cowboys (unless they are haters) gives a nice prospective at times and makes you look at things in a different angle. Outside of Mr. B., none of the other Cowboy posters have even addressed the questions brought forth in this thread. If they can't even be honest about their own team how can we take any stock to anything they say about anyone else's team.

Debating the Cowboys is literally the only thing I've done with you in here. And all you do is repeat the same damn rhetoric every single time "Jerry and dumb Dak" over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over over and over and over and over over and over and over and over over and over and over and over over and over and over and over over and over and over and over.

We don't want to keep doing it because we've already done the same tired circles with you 1000 times.

You're a Chiefs fan now right? Time to move along to discussing the Chiefs now.

[bluejerseyjinx]

You should try hitting the new thread button for your Niners obsession.

This thread is in fact about dumb Dak, Jerry and Cowboys fans.

Yes us Cowboy fans figuring out why the franchise is almost as sucky as the 49er franchise.

O.K. good !! When you get it figured out can we get your thought and plans moving forward and what you would like to see the Cowboys do moving forward? I know you can be slow to the party sometimes, but I am interested to know what you think the Cowboys should be doing now.

[bluejerseyjinx]

@Bjj, you need to change the name of the thread to Cowboys/Niners.

Apparently so. Outside of Otis and Mr. B., I don't believe the other Cowboy posters want to have an honest discussion about the Cowboys.

[bluejerseyjinx]

No I said Cowboys usually lose when they play Niners in the first game and he said then Niners usually lose next round, which is not true Niners usually lose much deeper than that. You misunderstood, but it is ok no need to derail.

No you’re wrong.
You said next year when the cowboys go 9 and 3 …..
emphasis on the next year. He responded to that.
Everyone knows the cowboys haven’t been to a NFC championship game and the 49ers went to the SB.
So obviously they do t always lose the year after.
But he was referring to your NEXt YEAR comment.
Who’s is funny you still don’t get.

christ I didnt just come up with that reference out of thin air, it was a referring to past trends and applying to future. I hope you are being obtuse on purpose and dont actually have down syndrome, but let it go it is not that important to topic at hand.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Not much to do with Dak signed.
We need a QB that doesn’t choke.
Hopefully getting a good draft slot will help.
New coach and coordinators might help.
I’m not optimistic but hoping I’m wrong.

Isnt it difficult to move on from Dak with all that money guaranteed? I doubt they will pick a new QB and have Dak as a back up.

Correct
It’s nearly impossible to move on. The dead money would eat the cap and they wouldn’t be able to be cap compliant.
Was thinking a few years from now.
Right now in the immediate future they have to change the culture. Hopefully new coaching does that.
We need to draft a RB in the early rounds to establish a running game. Can’t have Dak throwing so much. Got to protect him from himself.
Need a stud D tackle.
Too many things. lol

[Micah Prescott]

There is 72 page Dak thread and 145 page NFC East thread on the front page which are two of the the most active threads.

BJJ: "They don't want to talk about it"

[QB_Eagles]

Both teams have failed in the last 30 years to achieve the only goal but us shaking our heads at him elevating his team is us coping. lol

Probably because most fans, if they had to choose, would prefer if their team made 3 SBs in 30 years rather than 0 conference championship games in 30 years.

The era I grew up in (child of the 80’s) there were winners and there are losers when it comes to sports. If you lost you tried harder the next time until you actually did win. You didn’t celebrate until you won.

Now days though I guess winning doesn’t matter. You’re going to celebrate either way. Everyone gets called great. The Pussification of America persists I guess.

I'm a Dallas Mavericks fan as well, and we sure as hell weren't celebrating our Finals loss to the Celtics. And no one will even remember we were even there in 5 years.

It's an argument about who the better loser is. But to be fair, with 31 out of 32 teams being a loser every year, we aren't left with much.

I'd rather lose in the SB than in the wildcard round.

Like did any of you plays sports? Of course you want to advance as far as possible. I don't understand how this is even a debate.

I played sports and in my day there were winners and losers. Everyone wasn’t celebrated like they won the Championship when in fact they lost. I mean why even keep score? Just play the game for 3 hours with no score and everyone can go home happy.

I only played amateur sports but one of my favorite memories is a soccer tournament where the rules were every team had to have 1 girl starting and our team was the only one with more than 1 girl, 3 actually (literal pussification), but we won a game in the knockout round.

[QB_Eagles]

"Well at least the Cowboys have won a ring more recently than the 49ers"


El Turco:

Not the Turk, but I rather would have been a 49ers fan in the last 30 years than a Cowboys fan.

Only in bizarro Dallas world is losing a close SB worse than choking in the wildcard round.

Like obviously the Eagles 2022 season was more successful than the Eagles 2023 season.

[bluejerseyjinx]

There is 72 page Dak thread and 145 page NFC East thread on the front page which are two of the the most active threads.

BJJ: "They don't want to talk about it"

So talk about a different issues to improve on. I think most general posters think Dak sucks anyway. I was done with him 3 years ago as you well know. Unless he is willing to to get rid of his no trade clause (which could happen), there is nothing to talk about.

[bluejerseyjinx]

There is 72 page Dak thread and 145 page NFC East thread on the front page which are two of the the most active threads.

BJJ: "They don't want to talk about it"

No. You don't want to talk about. And we all know why.

[Micah Prescott]

"Well at least the Cowboys have won a ring more recently than the 49ers"


El Turco:

Not the Turk, but I rather would have been a 49ers fan in the last 30 years than a Cowboys fan.

Only in bizarro Dallas world is losing a close SB worse than choking in the wildcard round.

Like obviously the Eagles 2022 season was more successful than the Eagles 2023 season.

First off, Dallas won a ring 30 years ago lol, in 96

But I never said it was worse, I am saying:

1. Patriots
2. Chiefs
3. Super Bowl winner
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15. 49ers
16. Cowboys
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32. Browns


basically who gives a @#$% after all the ring winners, it's a debate amongst losers.

[Micah Prescott]

There is 72 page Dak thread and 145 page NFC East thread on the front page which are two of the the most active threads.

BJJ: "They don't want to talk about it"

No. You don't want to talk about. And we all know why.

yeah we do know why, because I've already talked it to death with you.

The general forum is basically one CeeDee Lamb thread away from being a Cowboys forum. It's beating a dead horse. And frankly I think you have a form of addiction over the subject. I don't think you can go a day without thinking about Jerry Jones.

I think every now and then you accidently blurt out "Jerry Jones" in regular everyday conversations.

[bluejerseyjinx]

There is 72 page Dak thread and 145 page NFC East thread on the front page which are two of the the most active threads.

BJJ: "They don't want to talk about it"

No. You don't want to talk about. And we all know why.

yeah we do know why, because I've already talked it to death with you.

The general forum is basically one CeeDee Lamb thread away from being a Cowboys forum. It's beating a dead horse. And frankly I think you have a form of addiction over the subject. I don't think you can go a day without thinking about Jerry Jones.

I think every now and then you accidently blurt out "Jerry Jones" in regular everyday conversations.

No. Your pissed because I have been right for 4 years and running and you don't want to admit. Told you 4 years ago Zeke was washed, told you 3 years ago Dak is not the guy, been telling you for how ever long Jerry is the absolute worst GM, etc., You even got on my azz and made fun of me earlier this year in the Cowboy forum when I said the Cowboys would be 3-6 or 3-7. What's my crime, being right all the time about the Cowboys?