2025 NFL Off-Season

[Jaydubb]

About time.lol I thought he should’ve retired in like 2019

Hell of a career tho

He still got gambling debt, but since the Seahawks gave him a post-playing career job, he can finally retire.

Athletes should be required to take money management classes. I saw statistics somewhere and something like 3/4 professional athletes are broke within 3 years of ending their career. It’s insane.

I remember Shaquille O’Neal talking about it once and he was saying early in his career he splurged and bought cars chains and houses etc but then he learned to save/invest 75% of his earnings and then the 25% he uses however he wants. Yes, Shaq made a ton of money in his career so that 75/25 goes a lot farther, but I think because he’s made such good investments with that 75% he’s now made more money off the court than he has playing basketball.

[Mariner]

The eagles and dodgers have been successful doing this.
I honestly applaud it. Whatever it takes.
https://baseball.realgm.com/wiretap/59427/Dodgers-Deferred-Payments-Hit-$1051B-To-Eight-Players-From-2028-46

There’s something wrong with teams if they don’t do that considering there’s large tv and streaming deals in the future that will inevitably increase the salary cap for all teams. The problem with teams that don’t do that is they have owners that don’t care about the fans and only wants to put more money in their own pocket.

I agree they should do it do to inflation and the cap going up but what these two teams are doing is well beyond that. At least the dodgers don’t have a cap.
The eagles are going to have as much dead cap as one third of the league combined in the near future.
But again good on them both. They both won.

[Jaydubb]

The eagles and dodgers have been successful doing this.
I honestly applaud it. Whatever it takes.
https://baseball.realgm.com/wiretap/59427/Dodgers-Deferred-Payments-Hit-$1051B-To-Eight-Players-From-2028-46

There’s something wrong with teams if they don’t do that considering there’s large tv and streaming deals in the future that will inevitably increase the salary cap for all teams. The problem with teams that don’t do that is they have owners that don’t care about the fans and only wants to put more money in their own pocket.

I agree they should do it do to inflation and the cap going up but what these two teams are doing is well beyond that. At least the dodgers don’t have a cap.
The eagles are going to have as much dead cap as one third of the league combined in the near future.
But again good on them both. They both won.

Agreed. It’s necessary to win.

[Cactus Jack]

The eagles and dodgers have been successful doing this.
I honestly applaud it. Whatever it takes.
https://baseball.realgm.com/wiretap/59427/Dodgers-Deferred-Payments-Hit-$1051B-To-Eight-Players-From-2028-46

There’s something wrong with teams if they don’t do that considering there’s large tv and streaming deals in the future that will inevitably increase the salary cap for all teams. The problem with teams that don’t do that is they have owners that don’t care about the fans and only wants to put more money in their own pocket.

The vast majority of owners only invest to make a profit. Winning games is not necessarily at the top of their priority list. That's especially true for the sport of baseball. The Dodgers are really only one of maybe a few teams who do care.

[Jaydubb]

The eagles and dodgers have been successful doing this.
I honestly applaud it. Whatever it takes.
https://baseball.realgm.com/wiretap/59427/Dodgers-Deferred-Payments-Hit-$1051B-To-Eight-Players-From-2028-46

There’s something wrong with teams if they don’t do that considering there’s large tv and streaming deals in the future that will inevitably increase the salary cap for all teams. The problem with teams that don’t do that is they have owners that don’t care about the fans and only wants to put more money in their own pocket.

The vast majority of owners only invest to make a profit. Winning games is not necessarily at the top of their priority list. That's especially true for the sport of baseball.

You’re right but also, there’s no better way for a team to make money than by winning a lot of games and especially winning championships.

[Cactus Jack]

There’s something wrong with teams if they don’t do that considering there’s large tv and streaming deals in the future that will inevitably increase the salary cap for all teams. The problem with teams that don’t do that is they have owners that don’t care about the fans and only wants to put more money in their own pocket.

The vast majority of owners only invest to make a profit. Winning games is not necessarily at the top of their priority list. That's especially true for the sport of baseball.

You’re right but also, there’s no better way for a team to make money than by winning a lot of games and especially winning championships.

Right. But spending more to win more is not something they adopt. The goal for them is to cut costs & maximize profits. There are too many teams who operate in this manner.

[Jaydubb]

The vast majority of owners only invest to make a profit. Winning games is not necessarily at the top of their priority list. That's especially true for the sport of baseball.

You’re right but also, there’s no better way for a team to make money than by winning a lot of games and especially winning championships.

Right. But spending more to win more is not something they adopt. The goal for them is to cut costs & maximize profits.

Agreed. I think for them a lot of times it’s a percentage game. 1/30 chance in baseball and basketball to win it all, 1/32 in football. It’s a low percentage chance to win the championship so instead they try to do just enough to keep the fans happy. Only a handful of teams will really put in an effort to compete and even then they can probably do more but choose not to.

[Cactus Jack]

You’re right but also, there’s no better way for a team to make money than by winning a lot of games and especially winning championships.

Right. But spending more to win more is not something they adopt. The goal for them is to cut costs & maximize profits.

Agreed. I think for them a lot of times it’s a percentage game. 1/30 chance in baseball and basketball to win it all, 1/32 in football. It’s a low percentage chance to win the championship so instead they try to do just enough to keep the fans happy. Only a handful of teams will really put in an effort to compete and even then they can probably do more but choose not to.

Precisely. The Mariners are one of the more profitable teams in Baseball (revenue). But the goal for them is to do just enough (54%) to satisfy fans to keep them coming to the ballpark but also maximizing their revenue each year. It's why they never are big spenders in free agency. But there are a lot of teams especially in Baseball specifically who fall under that umbrella. The Dodgers are really the exception. They have the funds, but they also are willing to invest in the team.

[DOT]

Right. But spending more to win more is not something they adopt. The goal for them is to cut costs & maximize profits.

Agreed. I think for them a lot of times it’s a percentage game. 1/30 chance in baseball and basketball to win it all, 1/32 in football. It’s a low percentage chance to win the championship so instead they try to do just enough to keep the fans happy. Only a handful of teams will really put in an effort to compete and even then they can probably do more but choose not to.

Precisely. The Mariners are one of the more profitable teams in Baseball (revenue). But the goal for them is to do just enough (54%) to satisfy fans to keep them coming to the ballpark but also maximizing their revenue each year. It's why they never are big spenders in free agency. But there are a lot of teams especially in Baseball specifically who fall under that umbrella. The Dodgers are really the exception. They have the funds, but they also are willing to invest in the team.

[wco81]

The eagles and dodgers have been successful doing this.
I honestly applaud it. Whatever it takes.
https://baseball.realgm.com/wiretap/59427/Dodgers-Deferred-Payments-Hit-$1051B-To-Eight-Players-From-2028-46

There’s something wrong with teams if they don’t do that considering there’s large tv and streaming deals in the future that will inevitably increase the salary cap for all teams. The problem with teams that don’t do that is they have owners that don’t care about the fans and only wants to put more money in their own pocket.

The vast majority of owners only invest to make a profit. Winning games is not necessarily at the top of their priority list. That's especially true for the sport of baseball. The Dodgers are really only one of maybe a few teams who do care.

No they have market economics which no other or very few other MLB teams have. They're estimated to get over $300 million a year from local TV contract. That alone covers their payroll and they also sell out all their games, leading the MLB in attendance.

They probably also get a ton of money from merchandising.

ESPN just told the MLB that they're opting out of their TV deal. It was for $550 million for the whole MLB. Dodgers were making over half that just for themselves.

So they can outspend even the Yankees. Only reason the Mets are spending so much is that they have a very rich owner.

[wco81]

So I guess the Packers are trying to ban the tush push and they're being called sore losers.

Apparently at one time it was illegal to push the ball carrier. It's still illegal to pull the ball carrier.

[QB_Eagles]

The eagles and dodgers have been successful doing this.
I honestly applaud it. Whatever it takes.
https://baseball.realgm.com/wiretap/59427/Dodgers-Deferred-Payments-Hit-$1051B-To-Eight-Players-From-2028-46

There’s something wrong with teams if they don’t do that considering there’s large tv and streaming deals in the future that will inevitably increase the salary cap for all teams. The problem with teams that don’t do that is they have owners that don’t care about the fans and only wants to put more money in their own pocket.

That's a bit different because MLB has no cap and the Eagles can still shed their future cap hits in a single year of "retooling" like 2021 when one third of the cap was dead money.

Basically Howie can do this because he has one of the safest GM jobs outside of Jerry Jones.

[QB_Eagles]

Agreed. I think for them a lot of times it’s a percentage game. 1/30 chance in baseball and basketball to win it all, 1/32 in football. It’s a low percentage chance to win the championship so instead they try to do just enough to keep the fans happy. Only a handful of teams will really put in an effort to compete and even then they can probably do more but choose not to.

Precisely. The Mariners are one of the more profitable teams in Baseball (revenue). But the goal for them is to do just enough (54%) to satisfy fans to keep them coming to the ballpark but also maximizing their revenue each year. It's why they never are big spenders in free agency. But there are a lot of teams especially in Baseball specifically who fall under that umbrella. The Dodgers are really the exception. They have the funds, but they also are willing to invest in the team.

Is that Maduro?

[QB_Eagles]

So I guess the Packers are trying to ban the tush push and they're being called sore losers.

Apparently at one time it was illegal to push the ball carrier. It's still illegal to pull the ball carrier.

Yeah, and it wasn't even that long ago. 2005 was when the rule changed.

Honestly, if the NFL wants to go that way and outlaw pushing entirely, I wouldn't be mad about it.

Because the Eagles' tush push will still be an effective short-yardage play without the push. Not as automatic as right now but the push is not necessary that often. They would also have to change the rule that players lying on top of other players aren't down. Most of the time Hurts is sliding on the bodies of Mailata and Dickerson.

[hermes]

does pushing really help that much?
on the defense, why aren't the linebackers pushing the defensive lineman in the opposite direction?

[El Turco]

There’s something wrong with teams if they don’t do that considering there’s large tv and streaming deals in the future that will inevitably increase the salary cap for all teams. The problem with teams that don’t do that is they have owners that don’t care about the fans and only wants to put more money in their own pocket.

The vast majority of owners only invest to make a profit. Winning games is not necessarily at the top of their priority list. That's especially true for the sport of baseball. The Dodgers are really only one of maybe a few teams who do care.

No they have market economics which no other or very few other MLB teams have. They're estimated to get over $300 million a year from local TV contract. That alone covers their payroll and they also sell out all their games, leading the MLB in attendance.

They probably also get a ton of money from merchandising.

ESPN just told the MLB that they're opting out of their TV deal. It was for $550 million for the whole MLB. Dodgers were making over half that just for themselves.

So they can outspend even the Yankees. Only reason the Mets are spending so much is that they have a very rich owner.

Yup, economic dynamics of baseball and football are very different due to local tv contracts and lack of cap and should not be lumped together.

NFL's goal is to get every team as close to .500 as possible. While it is good idea to backload contracts at a rate comparable to projected cap increase, anything more than that will limit your ability to spend at some point.

[DOT]

Shemar Stewart has to be pissed the Jags fired Baalke

Dude would've been guaranteed to go 5th overall if we didn't.

[Jaydubb]

The eagles and dodgers have been successful doing this.
I honestly applaud it. Whatever it takes.
https://baseball.realgm.com/wiretap/59427/Dodgers-Deferred-Payments-Hit-$1051B-To-Eight-Players-From-2028-46

There’s something wrong with teams if they don’t do that considering there’s large tv and streaming deals in the future that will inevitably increase the salary cap for all teams. The problem with teams that don’t do that is they have owners that don’t care about the fans and only wants to put more money in their own pocket.

That's a bit different because MLB has no cap and the Eagles can still shed their future cap hits in a single year of "retooling" like 2021 when one third of the cap was dead money.

Basically Howie can do this because he has one of the safest GM jobs outside of Jerry Jones.

Yes but also in baseball there’s revenue share. Each team puts 48% of their revenue in a pot and share it evenly among all teams. This is once again why I say teams like the dodgers and Yankees are good for baseball because they literally make money for other teams to spend, but some of those teams choose not to spend it and big market teams shouldn’t be blamed for it.

[Jaydubb]

So I guess the Packers are trying to ban the tush push and they're being called sore losers.

Apparently at one time it was illegal to push the ball carrier. It's still illegal to pull the ball carrier.

You know what the NFL should definitely ban, jumping into the stands. No more lambeau leap

[Mariner]

There’s something wrong with teams if they don’t do that considering there’s large tv and streaming deals in the future that will inevitably increase the salary cap for all teams. The problem with teams that don’t do that is they have owners that don’t care about the fans and only wants to put more money in their own pocket.

That's a bit different because MLB has no cap and the Eagles can still shed their future cap hits in a single year of "retooling" like 2021 when one third of the cap was dead money.

Basically Howie can do this because he has one of the safest GM jobs outside of Jerry Jones.

Yes but also in baseball there’s revenue share. Each team puts 48% of their revenue in a pot and share it evenly among all teams. This is once again why I say teams like the dodgers and Yankees are good for baseball because they literally make money for other teams to spend, but some of those teams choose not to spend it and big market teams shouldn’t be blamed for it.

MLB should have a cap and floor. Players revenue would not be affected. It might even go up.
Not all but some small market teams have given up on spending. When they increase spending the larger payroll teams spend more to maintain the ratio.
The dodgers and Yankees are examples of what’s wrong in baseball, not good.