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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#161 » by Jaydubb » Fri Feb 28, 2025 6:17 am

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QB_Eagles wrote:That's a bit different because MLB has no cap and the Eagles can still shed their future cap hits in a single year of "retooling" like 2021 when one third of the cap was dead money.

Basically Howie can do this because he has one of the safest GM jobs outside of Jerry Jones.

Yes but also in baseball there’s revenue share. Each team puts 48% of their revenue in a pot and share it evenly among all teams. This is once again why I say teams like the dodgers and Yankees are good for baseball because they literally make money for other teams to spend, but some of those teams choose not to spend it and big market teams shouldn’t be blamed for it.

MLB should have a cap and floor. Players revenue would not be affected. It might even go up.
Not all but some small market teams have given up on spending. When they increase spending the larger payroll teams spend more to maintain the ratio.
The dodgers and Yankees are examples of what’s wrong in baseball, not good.

Yes exactly, owners of some teams would rather put more money in their own pockets than prevent teams like the dodgers and Yankees from getting all the good players. So don’t blame the dodgers and Yankees for doing exactly what they should be doing, blame the owners that choose not to spend money investing in their own team’s success.
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Post#162 » by Jaydubb » Fri Feb 28, 2025 6:23 am

Entertainment is good for baseball. Owners that don’t want to reinvest in their team and just want to pay themselves more money is not good for baseball.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#163 » by QB_Eagles » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:42 am

Jaydubb wrote:
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Jaydubb wrote:There’s something wrong with teams if they don’t do that considering there’s large tv and streaming deals in the future that will inevitably increase the salary cap for all teams. The problem with teams that don’t do that is they have owners that don’t care about the fans and only wants to put more money in their own pocket.

That's a bit different because MLB has no cap and the Eagles can still shed their future cap hits in a single year of "retooling" like 2021 when one third of the cap was dead money.

Basically Howie can do this because he has one of the safest GM jobs outside of Jerry Jones.

Yes but also in baseball there’s revenue share. Each team puts 48% of their revenue in a pot and share it evenly among all teams. This is once again why I say teams like the dodgers and Yankees are good for baseball because they literally make money for other teams to spend, but some of those teams choose not to spend it and big market teams shouldn’t be blamed for it.

Spoken like a Dodgers fan. :lol:
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#164 » by Mariner » Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:23 am

Jaydubb wrote:
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Jaydubb wrote:Yes but also in baseball there’s revenue share. Each team puts 48% of their revenue in a pot and share it evenly among all teams. This is once again why I say teams like the dodgers and Yankees are good for baseball because they literally make money for other teams to spend, but some of those teams choose not to spend it and big market teams shouldn’t be blamed for it.

MLB should have a cap and floor. Players revenue would not be affected. It might even go up.
Not all but some small market teams have given up on spending. When they increase spending the larger payroll teams spend more to maintain the ratio.
The dodgers and Yankees are examples of what’s wrong in baseball, not good.

Yes exactly, owners of some teams would rather put more money in their own pockets than prevent teams like the dodgers and Yankees from getting all the good players. So don’t blame the dodgers and Yankees for doing exactly what they should be doing, blame the owners that choose not to spend money investing in their own team’s success.

Those owners can reinvest that money and it would just be wasted. The gap would still be the same.
You’re trying to rationalize a crazy system.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#165 » by Jaydubb » Fri Feb 28, 2025 12:11 pm

QB_Eagles wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:That's a bit different because MLB has no cap and the Eagles can still shed their future cap hits in a single year of "retooling" like 2021 when one third of the cap was dead money.

Basically Howie can do this because he has one of the safest GM jobs outside of Jerry Jones.

Yes but also in baseball there’s revenue share. Each team puts 48% of their revenue in a pot and share it evenly among all teams. This is once again why I say teams like the dodgers and Yankees are good for baseball because they literally make money for other teams to spend, but some of those teams choose not to spend it and big market teams shouldn’t be blamed for it.

Spoken like a Dodgers fan. :lol:

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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#166 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Feb 28, 2025 4:52 pm

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Post#167 » by Jaydubb » Fri Feb 28, 2025 6:15 pm

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I think the redskins should trade for DK metcalf
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Post#168 » by Mariner » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:01 pm

That’s a lot of compensation for a number two receiver who didn’t even get a 1000 yards. Plus he’s playing on his last year of his contract.
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Post#169 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:49 pm

Mariner wrote:That’s a lot of compensation for a number two receiver who didn’t even get a 1000 yards. Plus he’s playing on his last year of his contract.

Tbf he was banged up the last half of the season. He got hurt during week 7 & that's the point when JSN started to emerge as the go-to guy in the offense.

He's been very productive & durable throughout his career. A first-round pick is completely fair compensation for someone of his caliber. This is also a very weak WR class in general.
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Post#170 » by Jaydubb » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:56 pm

Mariner wrote:That’s a lot of compensation for a number two receiver who didn’t even get a 1000 yards. Plus he’s playing on his last year of his contract.

People said the same exact same thing about the AJ brown trade. Here’s an update:

https://fansided.com/the-aj-brown-trade-was-bad-in-the-moment-and-somehow-looks-worse-years-later
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Post#171 » by Jaydubb » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:01 pm

Thing is the stats don’t look great, sure, but that’s not always the WRs fault. Dk metcalf is a **** beast. Anybody that’s watched him play will know that. Sometimes there’s more to it than just the stats. Put him in a better offense with a better QB and he’s gonna put up really good numbers, just watch.
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Post#172 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:12 pm

Jaydubb wrote:Thing is the stats don’t look great, sure, but that’s not always the WRs fault. Dk metcalf is a **** beast. Anybody that’s watched him play will know that. Sometimes there’s more to it than just the stats. Put him in a better offense with a better QB and he’s gonna put up really good numbers, just watch.

Yup. Again, he got banged up midway through the season. So, JSN became the primary receiver when he got hurt.

If healthy, he's pretty much a lock for a 1,000 yd season.

At the end of the day, I'm not surprised they would entertain offers for him considering his price tag, contract year, etc.

His numbers in his first 5 years in the league are very similar production wise to Terrell Owens.
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Post#173 » by Mariner » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:17 pm

I like DK. He’s a freakish athlete.
The compensation is still to much though. Especially for a guy who is on his last year of his contract. If you give that much you’re gonna have to pay him too.
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Post#174 » by wco81 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:39 pm

He's going to want a new contract north of $30 million a year.

Are the Packers ready to pay for that?

I thought they had a productive passing game already. The issue is that Love will make some ill-advised decisions, maybe rack up tons of yards but then throw some dumb picks.
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Post#175 » by El Turco » Sat Mar 1, 2025 10:10 am

No way I am giving that type of compensation on top of a big contract for a B tier receiver pushing 30. Third and a fifth or no deal.

There are many talented receivers in the league and many more in the pipeline, no need to make desperate moves at that position.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#176 » by El Turco » Sat Mar 1, 2025 10:30 am

Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:That’s a lot of compensation for a number two receiver who didn’t even get a 1000 yards. Plus he’s playing on his last year of his contract.

People said the same exact same thing about the AJ brown trade. Here’s an update:

https://fansided.com/the-aj-brown-trade-was-bad-in-the-moment-and-somehow-looks-worse-years-later


AJ Brown was 3 years younger and depends less on speed and athleticism.
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Post#177 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Mar 1, 2025 3:07 pm

Metcalf just turned 27. Pushing 30?

He's actually been durable throughout his career on top of it.

I don't think it's fair to say that he's peaked yet. He still has a few really productive years.
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Post#178 » by Jaydubb » Sat Mar 1, 2025 3:08 pm

El Turco wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:That’s a lot of compensation for a number two receiver who didn’t even get a 1000 yards. Plus he’s playing on his last year of his contract.

People said the same exact same thing about the AJ brown trade. Here’s an update:

https://fansided.com/the-aj-brown-trade-was-bad-in-the-moment-and-somehow-looks-worse-years-later


AJ Brown was 3 years younger and depends less on speed and athleticism.

Why you acting like dk metcalf is old?lol
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Post#179 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Mar 1, 2025 3:14 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
El Turco wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:People said the same exact same thing about the AJ brown trade. Here’s an update:

https://fansided.com/the-aj-brown-trade-was-bad-in-the-moment-and-somehow-looks-worse-years-later


AJ Brown was 3 years younger and depends less on speed and athleticism.

Why you acting like dk metcalf is old?lol

Because Deebo came out of the same draft class & is 2 years older. So, he assuming he's the same age.

He just turned 27 fwiw. He was one of the younger guys in that draft class.

Deebo's running style has made him way more susceptible to injury. Similar to a RB. It's why he's missed a lot of time & has a lower self life.

DK is a different build. It's why he's been very durable. Has played in atleast 15 games every year. Doesn't get hurt.
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Post#180 » by Jaydubb » Sat Mar 1, 2025 3:24 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
El Turco wrote:
AJ Brown was 3 years younger and depends less on speed and athleticism.

Why you acting like dk metcalf is old?lol

Because Deebo came out of the same draft class & is 2 years older. So, he assuming he's the same age.

He just turned 27 fwiw. He was one of the younger guys in that draft class.

AJ brown was also in the same draft and is like 6 months older than dk metcalf and I don’t think he’s old either.lol

For me a WR becomes “older” when he’s like 31. That seems to be the year they might start to decline. If you trade for metcalf and give him a 3 year extension, his contract will expire at the end of his age 30 season. He will be 31 for like a week or two when his contract expires.lol

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