NFL Wheelings and Dealings

RIPskaterdude · Post #1621 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Mon May 5, 2014 6:51 am

Harry Palmer wrote:Can't say where I heard this, and hope it's BS, but there seems to be a real possibility that the 49ers/Kaepernick contract discussions are still so far apart that the team may be looking to move him and move on.

And get who to replace him? :roll:

blazza18 · Post #1622 » by **blazza18** » Mon May 5, 2014 6:58 am

Alex Smith of course.

Post #1623 » by **gswhoops** » Mon May 5, 2014 4:22 pm

Celtsfan1980 wrote:Riddick:
Hearing rumblings of a potential draft day trade that could blow the top off of the draft involving the QB position.All “talk” at this point, but caught me off guard, to say the least…

Interesting point to jump off of this: supposedly the Vikings have talked to St. Louis about trading for QB Sam Bradford. Link

Would make sense given some of the rumors (Rams interested in Manziel, Vikes not looking QB in the first) floating around out there. That link has some speculation re: something along the lines of Bradford and #13 for Ponder and #8, with the Rams presumably taking Manziel at 8 and either Watkins or Robinson at 2.

Mamba Mentality · Post #1624 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Mon May 5, 2014 7:42 pm

Still, the Rams privately insist that there have been no talks regarding a possible trade of Bradford. Even if there were, who would commit $14 million in 2014 base salary to an up-and-down passer who is rehabbing a torn ACL?

That’s reason enough to assume there would be no little or no trade market for Bradford.

I’m sure the Rams would love to deal the overpaid/injury riddled Bradford but realistically there isn't a market for him. With that being said lets not forget that he was on pace for 30+ td’s and 4,000 yards last year before he got hurt....that's pretty damn good.

Post #1625 » by **gswhoops** » Mon May 5, 2014 8:12 pm

The Regime wrote:
Still, the Rams privately insist that there have been no talks regarding a possible trade of Bradford. Even if there were, who would commit $14 million in 2014 base salary to an up-and-down passer who is rehabbing a torn ACL?

That’s reason enough to assume there would be no little or no trade market for Bradford.

I’m sure the Rams would love to deal the overpaid/injury riddled Bradford but realistically there isn't a market for him. With that being said lets not forget that he was on pace for 30+ td’s and 4,000 yards last year before he got hurt....that's pretty damn good.

Well I'm assuming he would have to restructure his deal as part of any trade.

And your second sentence kinda explains why there would be a market for him, if the Rams really were interested in drafting Manziel and moving on from Bradford.

Celtsfan1980 · Post #1626 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Tue May 6, 2014 11:56 am

I recall the 49ers struggled early last season when Crabtree was out. Kaepernick is closer to Alex Smith than he is to Drew Brees and he will be overpaid. He could finally make the Browns relevant if he was traded. As a Browns fan I'd love to see a trade. Probably just wishful thinking at this point.

Post #1627 » by **Icness** » Tue May 6, 2014 12:59 pm

My general rule of thumb is to ignore everything that comes out in the week before the draft.

Having said that...

The Rams would be very smart to dump him now and get something in return. They won't get crap once he gets another injury, which would be his 5th in 7 seasons.

Look at them though. They need to win NOW. How does changing QBs and changing the offense to suit Manziel help them?

Tough call. I don't believe it happens.

RIPskaterdude · Post #1628 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Tue May 6, 2014 1:57 pm

Win now in a division with the 49ers, Seahawks and the Cardinals? Good luck.

Mamba Mentality · Post #1629 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Wed May 7, 2014 6:32 pm

Hawks resign Sherman to a 4 yr/$57.4 million deal ($40 million guaranteed) making him the highest paid db in the league

Post #1630 » by **bwgood77** » Wed May 7, 2014 7:45 pm

Celtsfan1980 wrote:I recall the 49ers struggled early last season when Crabtree was out. Kaepernick is closer to Alex Smith than he is to Drew Brees and he will be overpaid. He could finally make the Browns relevant if he was traded. As a Browns fan I'd love to see a trade. Probably just wishful thinking at this point.

He's overrated. Without a great line he might actually not be very good at all. I think tons of qbs would lead the 49ers to 12+ wins with that squad.

Celtsfan1980 · Post #1631 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Wed May 7, 2014 9:01 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Celtsfan1980 wrote:I recall the 49ers struggled early last season when Crabtree was out. Kaepernick is closer to Alex Smith than he is to Drew Brees and he will be overpaid. He could finally make the Browns relevant if he was traded. As a Browns fan I'd love to see a trade. Probably just wishful thinking at this point.

He's overrated. Without a great line he might actually not be very good at all. I think tons of qbs would lead the 49ers to 12+ wins with that squad.

San Fransisco came very close to the Super Bowl with Alex Smith. It's possible you're right. My brother tells me the Browns would have to get rid of more than the 4th pick for Kaep, but I certainly wouldn't do it. The Browns don't have a bad offensive line, and they do have potential for a very good receiving group if they can draft one more. The defense has been above average for a few years now. There is potential if they have even a decent quarterback.

Post #1632 » by **bwgood77** » Wed May 7, 2014 9:17 pm

Celtsfan1980 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Celtsfan1980 wrote:I recall the 49ers struggled early last season when Crabtree was out. Kaepernick is closer to Alex Smith than he is to Drew Brees and he will be overpaid. He could finally make the Browns relevant if he was traded. As a Browns fan I'd love to see a trade. Probably just wishful thinking at this point.

He's overrated. Without a great line he might actually not be very good at all. I think tons of qbs would lead the 49ers to 12+ wins with that squad.

San Fransisco came very close to the Super Bowl with Alex Smith. It's possible you're right. My brother tells me the Browns would have to get rid of more than the 4th pick for Kaep, but I certainly wouldn't do it. The Browns don't have a bad offensive line, and they do have potential for a very good receiving group if they can draft one more. The defense has been above average for a few years now. There is potential if they have even a decent quarterback.

No way I'd trade even the 4th pick for Kaep. He isn't asked to do much to carry the team offensively (because they don't need it) and he still ranks 31st in the nfl in completion percentage. http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/playe ... pletionPct

dr3am · Post #1633 » by **dr3am** » Fri May 9, 2014 7:11 pm

Stevie Johnson to the Niners

Mamba Mentality · Post #1634 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Fri May 9, 2014 7:24 pm

Baalke is a beast!!! Stevie was highly productive playing out of the slot in Buffalo; I'm assuming that's where he'll line up a majority of the time next season.

I still think we need a burner though...

RIPskaterdude · Post #1635 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Fri May 9, 2014 7:56 pm

Niners WR rotation is stacked. No excuses for kaep this year.

Mamba Mentality · Post #1636 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Fri May 9, 2014 10:26 pm

And so starts the Manziel era...

Sources tell ESPN that Josh Gordon could face a season-long suspension following a second failed drug test, this time for marijuana.

Post #1637 » by **studcrackers** » Fri May 9, 2014 10:45 pm

the most cleveland thing to ever cleveland

Celtsfan1980 · Post #1638 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Fri May 9, 2014 10:57 pm

Why would this pop up now and not a long time ago? The whole timing of this seems suspicious to me. If it happened months ago, they should have been informed.

Post #1639 » by **studcrackers** » Fri May 9, 2014 11:10 pm

the browns supposedly have known a few weeks

Post #1640 » by **Slava** » Sat May 10, 2014 3:21 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:Win now in a division with the 49ers, Seahawks and the Cardinals? Good luck.

With a full season of Bradford, which is a gigantic IF Rams are not far off but yeah that's a brutal division.