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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#181 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:26 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:We need a better defense. Im sorry but our offense and QB put up points. We have the #2 scorong offense in the NFL.Our QB has thrown more TDs than any other QB. Now we need a defense that can hold teams low. But Id probably go BPA, the same strategy most teams do. If there is an elite RB at pur spot go with it.

It sure AF beats drafting a QB year after year until we finally find one that throws even MORE TDs than this.

I mean the Ravens just gave Lamar Jackson the biggest contract ever. How does that effect what are they targeting?

Sure. Between all the tomato cans teams Dak as able to pad his stats. Been doing it for years. And lets not forget how the defense and special teams carried the team the first 5 weeks, making things extremely easy for your boy. Gave him tons of leads and numerous short fields and most of the time all he and the offense could do in the beginning was put up field goals. Dak's stats would not be what they are now hadn't the defense played lights out till they became a MASH unit losing 4 players for the year.


Yeah it is utterly dishonest to use scoring offense for Dallas considering they got 7 defensive and special teams touchdowns in addition to short fields.

Dallas' estimated offensive points per game is 5th which is still not bad. Until you see that Dallas offense 17th on the road and 20th against teams with winning record. Even in points per play Dallas is essentially tied with Seattle for 13th in away games.

For once stats back your analysis :D

That's because Dak is so great. Dak should get credited for all those defensive and special team scores and short fields. He's such an impactful player. He's the engine that makes the Cowboys run so he should get all the credit.
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#182 » by El Turco » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:28 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Sure. Between all the tomato cans teams Dak as able to pad his stats. Been doing it for years. And lets not forget how the defense and special teams carried the team the first 5 weeks, making things extremely easy for your boy. Gave him tons of leads and numerous short fields and most of the time all he and the offense could do in the beginning was put up field goals. Dak's stats would not be what they are now hadn't the defense played lights out till they became a MASH unit losing 4 players for the year.


Yeah it is utterly dishonest to use scoring offense for Dallas considering they got 7 defensive and special teams touchdowns in addition to short fields.

Dallas' estimated offensive points per game is 5th which is still not bad. Until you see that Dallas offense 17th on the road and 20th against teams with winning record. Even in points per play Dallas is essentially tied with Seattle for 13th in away games.

For once stats back your analysis :D

That's because Dak is so great. Dak should get credited for all those defensive and special team scores and short fields. he's such an impactful player.


Dak should get the defensive player of the year instead of Bland.
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#183 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:34 pm

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Yeah it is utterly dishonest to use scoring offense for Dallas considering they got 7 defensive and special teams touchdowns in addition to short fields.

Dallas' estimated offensive points per game is 5th which is still not bad. Until you see that Dallas offense 17th on the road and 20th against teams with winning record. Even in points per play Dallas is essentially tied with Seattle for 13th in away games.

For once stats back your analysis :D

That's because Dak is so great. Dak should get credited for all those defensive and special team scores and short fields. he's such an impactful player.


Dak should get the defensive player of the year instead of Bland.

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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#184 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:40 pm

Dak has the most passing TDs in the NFL. That has nothing to do with Bland. And if anyone benefited from facing bad QBs it is Bland, not Dak. That's my point.

Dak didn't get to face Zack Wilson...Dak had to face the Jets defense
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#185 » by El Turco » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:45 pm

Dallas' opponents also benefitted from facing a bad QB when playing at home :)
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#186 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:45 pm

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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#187 » by last stand » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:46 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:Dak has the most passing TDs in the NFL. That has nothing to do with Bland. And if anyone benefited from facing bad QBs it is Bland, not Dak. That's my point.

Dak didn't get to face Zack Wilson...Dak had to face the Jets defense


Playing Zack Wilson benefits the offense just as much as it does the defense

Playing bad QBs in general helps the offense just as much as the defense, it not only alleviates pressure from the offense but gives more opportunities, drives, field position
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#188 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:47 pm

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Yeah it is utterly dishonest to use scoring offense for Dallas considering they got 7 defensive and special teams touchdowns in addition to short fields.

Dallas' estimated offensive points per game is 5th which is still not bad. Until you see that Dallas offense 17th on the road and 20th against teams with winning record. Even in points per play Dallas is essentially tied with Seattle for 13th in away games.

For once stats back your analysis :D

That's because Dak is so great. Dak should get credited for all those defensive and special team scores and short fields. he's such an impactful player.


Dak should get the defensive player of the year instead of Bland.

All those short fields by the defense and special teams weren't helpful make things easier for dumb azz to help pad his stats a bit.
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#189 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:49 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Dak has the most passing TDs in the NFL. That has nothing to do with Bland. And if anyone benefited from facing bad QBs it is Bland, not Dak. That's my point.

Dak didn't get to face Zack Wilson...Dak had to face the Jets defense


Playing Zack Wilson benefits the offense just as much as it does the defense

Playing bad QBs in general helps the offense just as much as the defense, it not only alleviates pressure from the offense but gives more opportunities, drives, field position

The Jets only give up 21 ppg
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#190 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:51 pm

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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#191 » by last stand » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:53 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Dak has the most passing TDs in the NFL. That has nothing to do with Bland. And if anyone benefited from facing bad QBs it is Bland, not Dak. That's my point.

Dak didn't get to face Zack Wilson...Dak had to face the Jets defense


Playing Zack Wilson benefits the offense just as much as it does the defense

Playing bad QBs in general helps the offense just as much as the defense, it not only alleviates pressure from the offense but gives more opportunities, drives, field position

The Jets only give up 21 ppg


So the 3 interceptions and fumble by the jets offense had no impact on the cowboys having more opportunities to score? Lol

So in your estimation offense and defense are individual entities free of benefit from their counterparts and dak benefits little from the defense (as you say) taking advantage of weak offenses?
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#192 » by El Turco » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:54 pm

In addition to Jets, Dak faced Giantsx2 (16th), Cardinals (20th), Chargers (31st), Rams (18th), Eagles x2 (25th), Commanders (30th), Seattle (22nd).

Not sure how Jets game became the snapshot of the season :lol:
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#193 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:58 pm

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Playing Zack Wilson benefits the offense just as much as it does the defense

Playing bad QBs in general helps the offense just as much as the defense, it not only alleviates pressure from the offense but gives more opportunities, drives, field position

The Jets only give up 21 ppg


So the 3 interceptions and fumble by the jets offense had no impact on the cowboys having more opportunities to score? Lol

So in your estimation offense and defense are individual entities free of benefit from their counterparts and dak benefits little from the defense (as you say) taking advantage of weak offenses?

It is EASIER for the Dallas Defense to benefit from bad QB opponents than it is for Dak.

We've played a lot of bad QBs....but not necessarily bad defensive teams...Jets great example

Yet the Dallas offense is out performing the defense.

And it's the defense that gives up a gazillion points vs teams like the 49ers and Bills
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#194 » by last stand » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:00 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:The Jets only give up 21 ppg


So the 3 interceptions and fumble by the jets offense had no impact on the cowboys having more opportunities to score? Lol

So in your estimation offense and defense are individual entities free of benefit from their counterparts and dak benefits little from the defense (as you say) taking advantage of weak offenses?

It is EASIER for the Dallas Defense to benefit from bad QB opponents than it is for Dak.

We've played a lot of bad QBs....but not necessarily bad defensive teams...Jets great example

Yet the Dallas offense is out performing the defense.

And it's the defense that gives up a gazillion points vs teams like the 49ers and Bills


If that’s the case why were the 49ers and bills games blowouts and not shootouts?
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#195 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:01 pm

El Turco wrote:In addition to Jets, Dak faced Giantsx2 (16th), Cardinals (20th), Chargers (31st), Rams (18th), Eagles x2 (25th), Commanders (30th), Seattle (22nd).

Not sure how Jets game became the snapshot of the season :lol:

Yeah now show their offense! Lol

Eagles are better on Offense, honestly didn't know their defense was that bad wow
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#196 » by last stand » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:02 pm

Blowouts don’t happen because an offense plays well and a defense plays poorly

Those are called shootouts
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#197 » by El Turco » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:03 pm

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El Turco wrote:In addition to Jets, Dak faced Giantsx2 (16th), Cardinals (20th), Chargers (31st), Rams (18th), Eagles x2 (25th), Commanders (30th), Seattle (22nd).

Not sure how Jets game became the snapshot of the season :lol:

Yeah now show their offense! Lol

Eagles are better on Offense, honestly didn't know their defense was that bad wow


yeah most of those are better at offense


has any of these arguments ever had validity? feels like throw everything out there and lets see if anything sticks :lol:
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#198 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:04 pm

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Playing Zack Wilson benefits the offense just as much as it does the defense

Playing bad QBs in general helps the offense just as much as the defense, it not only alleviates pressure from the offense but gives more opportunities, drives, field position

The Jets only give up 21 ppg


So the 3 interceptions and fumble by the jets offense had no impact on the cowboys having more opportunities to score? Lol

So in your estimation offense and defense are individual entities free of benefit from their counterparts and dak benefits little from the defense (as you say) taking advantage of weak offenses?

But it will always be the defense's fault if dumb Dak throws a couple INT's, a pick 6, fumble, etc., because the defense gave up too many points. And God forbid, Dak and the offense turn the ball over on downs or whatever in our own end. that also will be the defenses fault because they were not able to cover Dak's and McCarthy mistakes.
Are you guys starting to notice that Dak can play like total Sh.t and Micah will always find away to blame everyone but him. I can't help wonder at this point if Micah is trolling us all. They do have the same name. Can't help wondering if they are related.
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#199 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:12 pm

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El Turco wrote:In addition to Jets, Dak faced Giantsx2 (16th), Cardinals (20th), Chargers (31st), Rams (18th), Eagles x2 (25th), Commanders (30th), Seattle (22nd).

Not sure how Jets game became the snapshot of the season :lol:

Yeah now show their offense! Lol

Eagles are better on Offense, honestly didn't know their defense was that bad wow


yeah most of those are better at offense


has any of these arguments ever had validity? feels like throw everything out there and lets see if anything sticks :lol:


No, we have faced worse offenses than defenses. The Giants and Jets and Panthers are literally the 3 worst offenses in the entire NFL and we've played all three....Giants 2x

Take the time to add them all up or something if you want...but it's you having trouble finding anything to stick. I would make an analogy but you know...lol
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#200 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:15 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:The Jets only give up 21 ppg


So the 3 interceptions and fumble by the jets offense had no impact on the cowboys having more opportunities to score? Lol

So in your estimation offense and defense are individual entities free of benefit from their counterparts and dak benefits little from the defense (as you say) taking advantage of weak offenses?

It is EASIER for the Dallas Defense to benefit from bad QB opponents than it is for Dak.

We've played a lot of bad QBs....but not necessarily bad defensive teams...Jets great example

Yet the Dallas offense is out performing the defense.

And it's the defense that gives up a gazillion points vs teams like the 49ers and Bills

Once again, before the defense became a MASH unit we were a top 3 defense and way out performing the offense. Even when Dak and the defense tried to help him out with short field, it as field goal, field goal, field goal.
Injuries always play a part with all teams. Cut the crap. So when the offense goes 3 and out all the time and can't even move the ball on 6 straight possessions, what the hell do you expect the defense to do when you have to spend 35-42 minutes on the field. And it was the defenses fault the O-line had 3 starters out for that game and the offense could do anything. O.K.

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