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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1801 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Aug 1, 2025 4:14 pm

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Mr B wrote:First I agree, Jerry Jones is a moron. Not for this though. Micah is going to get his money and he’s going to be the highest paid non-QB in NFL history. The question is will that be with the Cowboys.

The thing you have to keep in mind is that Micah doesn’t have a whole lot of leverage. The Cowboys can always just Franchise Micah. Any team that wants to trade for him will have to start the bidding at 2 FRP’s. You can pretty much also guarantee that he’s. Or being traded to the Commanders, Eagles, or Giants. Well I don’t know, I’d consider the Giants.

I think he'd want to play for Dan Quinn. But they certainly won't deal him within the division.

The other team that would have strong interest, no doubt, is Seattle with Aden Durde as a strong influence. John Schneider has also never been afraid to make a deal. Honestly, if it ever got to that point (trade talks), I think they would be the favorites to land him.

I would look at teams that are expected to be bad first (or at least middle of pack). Seattle might actually be good. So if I’m trading him to Seattle I would be asking for 3 FRP’s instead of 2. Houston, Raiders, Browns, Jets, Bears, Saints, Panthers, or Cardinals.

Who wants Micah Parsons? The bidding would start with 2 FRP’s and your best young player (on rookie contract) regardless of position.

Yeah, but it has to be a team that Micah would sign off on also. One that he'd be willing to sign a long-term deal with. Because why would a team trade all of that capital without him agreeing to an extension?
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1802 » by wco81 » Fri Aug 1, 2025 4:27 pm

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wco81 wrote:Surprising that Commanders are screwing around. They got a Pro Bowl QB on a rookie deal. Now is the time to pay the best vets.

Plus they have ambitions of getting into the playoffs again and contending.

Why screw around with one of their best players from last year?

That’s why I was says by last year to pump the breaks on Daniels. Washington always finds a way to **** up their future



But they're under different ownership. And presumably the football operations are more competent now. They had a big one-year turnaround.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1803 » by wco81 » Fri Aug 1, 2025 4:29 pm

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Mamba Mentality wrote:Gonna state the obvious here...Jerry Jones is a **** moron. Micah should be paid top dollar at his position, he has been elite year in and year out and been the biggest ambassador for the franchise.

First I agree, Jerry Jones is a moron. Not for this though. Micah is going to get his money and he’s going to be the highest paid non-QB in NFL history. The question is will that be with the Cowboys.

The thing you have to keep in mind is that Micah doesn’t have a whole lot of leverage. The Cowboys can always just Franchise Micah. Any team that wants to trade for him will have to start the bidding at 2 FRP’s. You can pretty much also guarantee that he’s. Or being traded to the Commanders, Eagles, or Giants. Well I don’t know, I’d consider the Giants.



It looked like Stephen Jones was saying that Parsons wanted to wait until other guys like Watt and Garrett got paid, so he would get paid even more.

Said something like Parsons had to be ready to get paid.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1804 » by Mr B » Fri Aug 1, 2025 4:54 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:I think he'd want to play for Dan Quinn. But they certainly won't deal him within the division.

The other team that would have strong interest, no doubt, is Seattle with Aden Durde as a strong influence. John Schneider has also never been afraid to make a deal. Honestly, if it ever got to that point (trade talks), I think they would be the favorites to land him.

I would look at teams that are expected to be bad first (or at least middle of pack). Seattle might actually be good. So if I’m trading him to Seattle I would be asking for 3 FRP’s instead of 2. Houston, Raiders, Browns, Jets, Bears, Saints, Panthers, or Cardinals.

Who wants Micah Parsons? The bidding would start with 2 FRP’s and your best young player (on rookie contract) regardless of position.

Yeah, but it has to be a team that Micah would sign off on also. One that he'd be willing to sign a long-term deal with. Because why would a team trade all of that capital without him agreeing to an extension?

This isn’t the NBA. Micah doesn’t have a no trade clause and the NFL has the Franchise tag. Micah’s nuts are pretty much in a vice.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1805 » by Mr B » Fri Aug 1, 2025 4:55 pm

wco81 wrote:
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wco81 wrote:Surprising that Commanders are screwing around. They got a Pro Bowl QB on a rookie deal. Now is the time to pay the best vets.

Plus they have ambitions of getting into the playoffs again and contending.

Why screw around with one of their best players from last year?

That’s why I was says by last year to pump the breaks on Daniels. Washington always finds a way to **** up their future



But they're under different ownership. And presumably the football operations are more competent now. They had a big one-year turnaround.

They have been this way ever since they were sold by the Cooke family.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1806 » by Mr B » Fri Aug 1, 2025 4:58 pm

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Mamba Mentality wrote:Gonna state the obvious here...Jerry Jones is a **** moron. Micah should be paid top dollar at his position, he has been elite year in and year out and been the biggest ambassador for the franchise.

First I agree, Jerry Jones is a moron. Not for this though. Micah is going to get his money and he’s going to be the highest paid non-QB in NFL history. The question is will that be with the Cowboys.

The thing you have to keep in mind is that Micah doesn’t have a whole lot of leverage. The Cowboys can always just Franchise Micah. Any team that wants to trade for him will have to start the bidding at 2 FRP’s. You can pretty much also guarantee that he’s. Or being traded to the Commanders, Eagles, or Giants. Well I don’t know, I’d consider the Giants.



It looked like Stephen Jones was saying that Parsons wanted to wait until other guys like Watt and Garrett got paid, so he would get paid even more.

Said something like Parsons had to be ready to get paid.

That why I don’t see why Micah is so upset. The Jones’ are going to pay him. By waiting they are also allowing him to essentially skip every workout at camp. He’s literally going to get everything he wants if he just waits.

If he doesn’t want to wait though I could see him playing in Tennessee or Arizona. Or maybe to the Giants for Carter and 2 FRP’s.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1807 » by Jaydubb » Fri Aug 1, 2025 5:29 pm

Thing is if we are talking about trading Micah parsons, looking at his play on the field is undeniable but I wonder if some owners would be hesitant to pay so much to acquire him due to his podcast. He’s said some interesting things on there and I wonder if some owners just don’t want to deal with that extra attention.

Teams literally have PR guys assigned to players to tell them what to say to the press and what not to say. On Micah’s podcast he can basically say whatever tf he wants to say because it’s on his time and on his own show.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1808 » by Mariner » Fri Aug 1, 2025 5:53 pm

Jaydubb wrote:Thing is if we are talking about trading Micah parsons, looking at his play on the field is undeniable but I wonder if some owners would be hesitant to pay so much to acquire him due to his podcast. He’s said some interesting things on there and I wonder if some owners just don’t want to deal with that extra attention.

Teams literally have PR guys assigned to players to tell them what to say to the press and what not to say. On Micah’s podcast he can basically say whatever tf he wants to say because it’s on his time and on his own show.

Play on the field is what matters. Teams have overlooked much worse. Legal troubles, drugs etc…
I’m sure the podcast thing is annoying but hardly a deterrent in a trade. Plus all it takes is one team.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1809 » by Mariner » Fri Aug 1, 2025 6:00 pm

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Mr B wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:I think he'd want to play for Dan Quinn. But they certainly won't deal him within the division.

The other team that would have strong interest, no doubt, is Seattle with Aden Durde as a strong influence. John Schneider has also never been afraid to make a deal. Honestly, if it ever got to that point (trade talks), I think they would be the favorites to land him.

I would look at teams that are expected to be bad first (or at least middle of pack). Seattle might actually be good. So if I’m trading him to Seattle I would be asking for 3 FRP’s instead of 2. Houston, Raiders, Browns, Jets, Bears, Saints, Panthers, or Cardinals.

Who wants Micah Parsons? The bidding would start with 2 FRP’s and your best young player (on rookie contract) regardless of position.

Yeah, but it has to be a team that Micah would sign off on also. One that he'd be willing to sign a long-term deal with. Because why would a team trade all of that capital without him agreeing to an extension?

If a trade was now they would get Parsons for this year on the cheap and franchise him next year. Parsons doesn’t have much leverage in that regard.
Anyway I’m sure he will be signed soon.
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Post#1810 » by Jaydubb » Fri Aug 1, 2025 6:03 pm

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Jaydubb wrote:Thing is if we are talking about trading Micah parsons, looking at his play on the field is undeniable but I wonder if some owners would be hesitant to pay so much to acquire him due to his podcast. He’s said some interesting things on there and I wonder if some owners just don’t want to deal with that extra attention.

Teams literally have PR guys assigned to players to tell them what to say to the press and what not to say. On Micah’s podcast he can basically say whatever tf he wants to say because it’s on his time and on his own show.

Play on the field is what matters. Teams have overlooked much worse. Legal troubles, drugs etc…
I’m sure the podcast thing is annoying but hardly a deterrent in a trade. Plus all it takes is one team.

Some owners care about off field stuff. Actually I’d go as far as to say most do. You never know what he’s gonna say and how it can affect a locker room, good or bad. Like I said, there’s PR guys to monitor what players say, but on Micah’s show Micah controls what he says.

When you are preparing an offer of over 100hundred million dollars in guaranteed money and multiple high value draft picks, this is absolutely one of the things owners would think about.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1811 » by Mr B » Fri Aug 1, 2025 6:11 pm

Jaydubb wrote:Thing is if we are talking about trading Micah parsons, looking at his play on the field is undeniable but I wonder if some owners would be hesitant to pay so much to acquire him due to his podcast. He’s said some interesting things on there and I wonder if some owners just don’t want to deal with that extra attention.

Teams literally have PR guys assigned to players to tell them what to say to the press and what not to say. On Micah’s podcast he can basically say whatever tf he wants to say because it’s on his time and on his own show.

If Micah were to be made available in a trade the line of teams that would be willing to trade for him and pay him would form to the left.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1812 » by Jaydubb » Fri Aug 1, 2025 6:15 pm

Mr B wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:Thing is if we are talking about trading Micah parsons, looking at his play on the field is undeniable but I wonder if some owners would be hesitant to pay so much to acquire him due to his podcast. He’s said some interesting things on there and I wonder if some owners just don’t want to deal with that extra attention.

Teams literally have PR guys assigned to players to tell them what to say to the press and what not to say. On Micah’s podcast he can basically say whatever tf he wants to say because it’s on his time and on his own show.

If Micah were to be made available in a trade the line of teams that would be willing to trade for him and pay him would form to the left.

Yep
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1813 » by Mr B » Fri Aug 1, 2025 6:17 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
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Jaydubb wrote:Thing is if we are talking about trading Micah parsons, looking at his play on the field is undeniable but I wonder if some owners would be hesitant to pay so much to acquire him due to his podcast. He’s said some interesting things on there and I wonder if some owners just don’t want to deal with that extra attention.

Teams literally have PR guys assigned to players to tell them what to say to the press and what not to say. On Micah’s podcast he can basically say whatever tf he wants to say because it’s on his time and on his own show.

Play on the field is what matters. Teams have overlooked much worse. Legal troubles, drugs etc…
I’m sure the podcast thing is annoying but hardly a deterrent in a trade. Plus all it takes is one team.

Some owners care about off field stuff. Actually I’d go as far as to say most do. You never know what he’s gonna say and how it can affect a locker room, good or bad. Like I said, there’s PR guys to monitor what players say, but on Micah’s show Micah controls what he says.

When you are preparing an offer of over 100hundred million dollars in guaranteed money and multiple high value draft picks, this is absolutely one of the things owners would think about.

If Micah were an offensive lineman or a safety or a kicker I would agree with you. We’re talking about arguably (not that arguable either) the best pass rusher in the NFL. Depending on who you ask that’s either the 2nd or 3rd most important position in football. I would bet that more than half the teams n the league would be more than willing to trade for Micah Parsons/
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1814 » by Mr B » Fri Aug 1, 2025 6:22 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
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Jaydubb wrote:Thing is if we are talking about trading Micah parsons, looking at his play on the field is undeniable but I wonder if some owners would be hesitant to pay so much to acquire him due to his podcast. He’s said some interesting things on there and I wonder if some owners just don’t want to deal with that extra attention.

Teams literally have PR guys assigned to players to tell them what to say to the press and what not to say. On Micah’s podcast he can basically say whatever tf he wants to say because it’s on his time and on his own show.

Play on the field is what matters. Teams have overlooked much worse. Legal troubles, drugs etc…
I’m sure the podcast thing is annoying but hardly a deterrent in a trade. Plus all it takes is one team.

Some owners care about off field stuff. Actually I’d go as far as to say most do. You never know what he’s gonna say and how it can affect a locker room, good or bad. Like I said, there’s PR guys to monitor what players say, but on Micah’s show Micah controls what he says.

When you are preparing an offer of over 100hundred million dollars in guaranteed money and multiple high value draft picks, this is absolutely one of the things owners would think about.

Most owners definitely do not give a crap about off the field shenanigans as long as the player is good.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1815 » by Mr B » Fri Aug 1, 2025 6:23 pm

If the Jones’ can continue to play the waiting game with Micah there is an outside chance he could help them get their QB of the future.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1816 » by Mariner » Fri Aug 1, 2025 6:27 pm

Mr B wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:Play on the field is what matters. Teams have overlooked much worse. Legal troubles, drugs etc…
I’m sure the podcast thing is annoying but hardly a deterrent in a trade. Plus all it takes is one team.

Some owners care about off field stuff. Actually I’d go as far as to say most do. You never know what he’s gonna say and how it can affect a locker room, good or bad. Like I said, there’s PR guys to monitor what players say, but on Micah’s show Micah controls what he says.

When you are preparing an offer of over 100hundred million dollars in guaranteed money and multiple high value draft picks, this is absolutely one of the things owners would think about.

Most owners definitely do not give a crap about off the field shenanigans as long as the player is good.

Plus it’s not that severe.
He gets along with teammates.
No arrests or drugs.
No suspensions.
The podcasts is annoying but hardly a deterrent.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1817 » by wco81 » Fri Aug 1, 2025 6:34 pm

Mr B wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:Play on the field is what matters. Teams have overlooked much worse. Legal troubles, drugs etc…
I’m sure the podcast thing is annoying but hardly a deterrent in a trade. Plus all it takes is one team.

Some owners care about off field stuff. Actually I’d go as far as to say most do. You never know what he’s gonna say and how it can affect a locker room, good or bad. Like I said, there’s PR guys to monitor what players say, but on Micah’s show Micah controls what he says.

When you are preparing an offer of over 100hundred million dollars in guaranteed money and multiple high value draft picks, this is absolutely one of the things owners would think about.

If Micah were an offensive lineman or a safety or a kicker I would agree with you. We’re talking about arguably (not that arguable either) the best pass rusher in the NFL. Depending on who you ask that’s either the 2nd or 3rd most important position in football. I would bet that more than half the teams n the league would be more than willing to trade for Micah Parsons/


But it may not make sense for a team to pay a non QB over $40 million a year unless they're in the contention window for the SB.

So for instance, it's dumb that the Browns gave Garrett that huge extension, even though he's one of the best edge rushers in the league.

Without a franchise QB, they're not contending even for the playoffs.

If for instance Sanders or some other QB on a rookie contract hit and the team could get into the playoffs, then pay the non QBs big salaries until you have to pay the QB.

But a huge contract for non QBs on teams which aren't contenders is an irresponsible luxury.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1818 » by Jaydubb » Fri Aug 1, 2025 6:36 pm

Mr B wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:Play on the field is what matters. Teams have overlooked much worse. Legal troubles, drugs etc…
I’m sure the podcast thing is annoying but hardly a deterrent in a trade. Plus all it takes is one team.

Some owners care about off field stuff. Actually I’d go as far as to say most do. You never know what he’s gonna say and how it can affect a locker room, good or bad. Like I said, there’s PR guys to monitor what players say, but on Micah’s show Micah controls what he says.

When you are preparing an offer of over 100hundred million dollars in guaranteed money and multiple high value draft picks, this is absolutely one of the things owners would think about.

If Micah were an offensive lineman or a safety or a kicker I would agree with you. We’re talking about arguably (not that arguable either) the best pass rusher in the NFL. Depending on who you ask that’s either the 2nd or 3rd most important position in football. I would bet that more than half the teams n the league would be more than willing to trade for Micah Parsons/

I’m not in any way saying that no teams would be willing to trade for him.lol I’m just saying I wonder if some teams would be hesitant considering all the factors (huge contract, tons of assets in trade capital) which yes also includes the podcast. I’m assuming most teams won’t care and might even write certain things into his contract regarding the podcast and what he can or can’t say, but I do wonder if some will. And fwiw, I’d want him on my team, I never said otherwise.lol but some teams might think differently, that’s all.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1819 » by Jaydubb » Fri Aug 1, 2025 6:43 pm

Mariner wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:Some owners care about off field stuff. Actually I’d go as far as to say most do. You never know what he’s gonna say and how it can affect a locker room, good or bad. Like I said, there’s PR guys to monitor what players say, but on Micah’s show Micah controls what he says.

When you are preparing an offer of over 100hundred million dollars in guaranteed money and multiple high value draft picks, this is absolutely one of the things owners would think about.

Most owners definitely do not give a crap about off the field shenanigans as long as the player is good.

Plus it’s not that severe.
He gets along with teammates.
No arrests or drugs.
No suspensions.
The podcasts is annoying but hardly a deterrent.

Well he’s also trying to get a contract so he might be filtering himself at his agents request until he secures the bag.

I’m surprised you guys don’t realize that these are some of the things people talk about when offering huge contracts to people.lol You talk about all the pros and cons no matter how small they might seem and weigh out whether those cons are worth the value that they bring. Yes the play on the field is the biggest factor but there are other factors to consider too. Like I said, I’m gonna assume most teams won’t care because his value outweighs these other things but I do wonder if some look at everything and would just pass on it.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1820 » by Jaydubb » Fri Aug 1, 2025 6:45 pm

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Mr B wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:Some owners care about off field stuff. Actually I’d go as far as to say most do. You never know what he’s gonna say and how it can affect a locker room, good or bad. Like I said, there’s PR guys to monitor what players say, but on Micah’s show Micah controls what he says.

When you are preparing an offer of over 100hundred million dollars in guaranteed money and multiple high value draft picks, this is absolutely one of the things owners would think about.

If Micah were an offensive lineman or a safety or a kicker I would agree with you. We’re talking about arguably (not that arguable either) the best pass rusher in the NFL. Depending on who you ask that’s either the 2nd or 3rd most important position in football. I would bet that more than half the teams n the league would be more than willing to trade for Micah Parsons/


But it may not make sense for a team to pay a non QB over $40 million a year unless they're in the contention window for the SB.

So for instance, it's dumb that the Browns gave Garrett that huge extension, even though he's one of the best edge rushers in the league.

Without a franchise QB, they're not contending even for the playoffs.

If for instance Sanders or some other QB on a rookie contract hit and the team could get into the playoffs, then pay the non QBs big salaries until you have to pay the QB.

But a huge contract for non QBs on teams which aren't contenders is an irresponsible luxury.



Absolutely. Different teams want different things. Not all teams look at every situation the exact same way.

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