Who should win MVP?

[ak7]

Romo's December alone should get him the MVP. Rodgers played horrible vs Buffalo and it cost them HFA to Seattle. While we are talking about Seattle, one of the above went to Seattle and won while the other would not even throw at Sherman. Surrounding talent- Lacy, Cobb, Nelson to Murray, Dez, Witten. Thats a wash if not advantage to GB. tHE LINE- Dallas . The defense- Packers. Im a Dallas fan and think Rodgers is the best QB in the league, but not the MVP this year. Ive seen GB w/o Rodgers. Its a whole lot better than Dallas w/o Romo.

Take off the shades brother, you guys were blown out by the Mark Sanchez led Eagles and lost at home to the Redskins, both games costs you HFA theoretically.

If Tony Romo wins the MVP there's some serious Cowboy bias going on among the voters. Give me Rodgers or Brady before Romo for this years MVP.

We can skew stats all day long to make one's case such as this: The Packers ended the 2nd half of the season 7-1, where as the Cowboys finished 6-2.

[CentralQB5]

Romo's December alone should get him the MVP. Rodgers played horrible vs Buffalo and it cost them HFA to Seattle.

Dallas losing by 23 to a Mark Sanchez led Eagles team at home or to an awful Redskins team at home cost them home field advantage too. Both of those losses are far worse than losing to the Bills on the road.

The first Eagles loss came with 2 days to prepare and an unhealthy Romo not surprised he played bad. The first Redskins loss again Romo hurt in the second half and couldn't play. How are those loses worse than losing to Buffalo? Both those teams are division rivals which are much harder to pull out a win than a team you see once ever for years which is the case for GB against the Bills. Even with Sanchez give me the Eagles offense over a Bills offense any day. Also you can't overlook the Skins defense, they were ranked pretty high in Rush Yards Per Game allowed so they overall aren't a push over the only reason they lost 12 games was bc their offense was so horrible. So you can't say that losing to the Eagles and Skins is worse than losing to Buffalo.

[CentralQB5]

Romo's December alone should get him the MVP. Rodgers played horrible vs Buffalo and it cost them HFA to Seattle. While we are talking about Seattle, one of the above went to Seattle and won while the other would not even throw at Sherman. Surrounding talent- Lacy, Cobb, Nelson to Murray, Dez, Witten. Thats a wash if not advantage to GB. tHE LINE- Dallas . The defense- Packers. Im a Dallas fan and think Rodgers is the best QB in the league, but not the MVP this year. Ive seen GB w/o Rodgers. Its a whole lot better than Dallas w/o Romo.

Take off the shades brother, you guys were blown out by the Mark Sanchez led Eagles and lost at home to the Redskins, both games costs you HFA theoretically.

If Tony Romo wins the MVP there's some serious Cowboy bias going on among the voters. Give me Rodgers or Brady before Romo for this years MVP.

We can skew stats all day long to make one's case such as this: The Packers ended the 2nd half of the season 7-1, where as the Cowboys finished 6-2.

Everything in your response is just based on your fandom towards the packers.

[trwi7]

Romo's December alone should get him the MVP. Rodgers played horrible vs Buffalo and it cost them HFA to Seattle.

Dallas losing by 23 to a Mark Sanchez led Eagles team at home or to an awful Redskins team at home cost them home field advantage too. Both of those losses are far worse than losing to the Bills on the road.

The first Eagles loss came with 2 days to prepare and an unhealthy Romo not surprised he played bad. The first Redskins loss again Romo hurt in the second half and couldn't play. How are those loses worse than losing to Buffalo? Both those teams are division rivals which are much harder to pull out a win than a team you see once ever for years which is the case for GB against the Bills. Even with Sanchez give me the Eagles offense over a Bills offense any day. Also you can't overlook the Skins defense, they were ranked pretty high in Rush Yards Per Game allowed so they overall aren't a push over the only reason they lost 12 games was bc their offense was so horrible. So you can't say that losing to the Eagles and Skins is worse than losing to Buffalo.

Defensive Rankings

Bills 2nd
Eagles 10th
Redskins 27th

Offensive Rankings

Bills 26th
Eagles 13th
Redskins 28th

Even if you think the Eagles loss with Sanchez was better than a loss to the Bills, a home loss to a bottom 5 team, division rival or not is by far the worst loss of the three.

[Romotodez]

Dallas had been in must win mode for 4 weeks just to make the playoffs. Like I said dude Romo is mvp this year. That's just my personal opinion. Dallas is a totally different team without him. If you want to shake your pom pons for ROdgers so be it. Maybe you need to take the shades off and give credit where it is due.

[ash_k]

he really should not!...too many offense pro bowlers on that team to be the MVP ,IMO..either Brady or Rodgers!

[Celtsfan1980]

Dallas is a totally different team without him.

That means his back-up is garbage.

[Romotodez]

Dallas is a totally different team without him.

That means his back-up is garbage.

I wouldn't say garbage. He is a back up for a reason though.

[ash_k]

Dallas is a totally different team without him.

That means his back-up is garbage.

I could argue that Weeden looked really good against that Redskins D at Jerry's world and would have won that game while Romo was just struggling against those Blitzes until the injury...
IMO this was the only mistake of Dallas this season..Weeden should have been allowed to close the game out which would have given him the confidence to face and beat the Cardinals the following week

Again,either Brady or Rodgers for the MVP..though I would give it to Brady: running back by committee + the other guy from the Panthers (Steve Smith Jr)+ Gronk coming back from ACL injury + plus trading the best O-Line player (+ while losing your Top LB) while Rodgers has had Lacy(just imagine if he would have had an ACL like Ridley) and Nelson&Cobb all year (with Matt and Peppers harassing other teams)

[Romotodez]

I can agree with that. I'm not a Brady fan but don't understand why all of a sudden he fell out of this discussion to some.

[studcrackers]

cause brady didnt do anything special over the last month

[ash_k]

came off a Manning/Luck/Strafford/Rodgers/and then Rivers in December...then divisional games..essentially 4-0 in the last month..ok 3-1 with that last game with home field throughout already in the bag!....cant argue with this lol

[El Turco]

I am sure garappolo would ve gone 3-1 in that division

[bwgood77]

I can agree with that. I'm not a Brady fan but don't understand why all of a sudden he fell out of this discussion to some.

Oops I meant to quote you not give you an +1. Anyway, I don't know why he would be in the conversation. He is WAY behind Romo and Rodgers in every metric. Big Ben has had better numbers than Brady this year. Look how many passer rating points he is below the top two.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/playe ... backRating

I'd still give it to Watt though. He's the only guy in my book who had a crazy good season far better than any of his peers.

[Icness]

I voted for Rodgers. Would have voted for Watt but he didn't make playoffs. Cowboys MVP is DeMarco Murray IMO

[ash_k]

I can agree with that. I'm not a Brady fan but don't understand why all of a sudden he fell out of this discussion to some.

Oops I meant to quote you not give you an +1. Anyway, I don't know why he would be in the conversation. He is WAY behind Romo and Rodgers in every metric. Big Ben has had better numbers than Brady this year. Look how many passer rating points he is below the top two.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/playe ... backRating

I'd still give it to Watt though. He's the only guy in my book who had a crazy good season far better than any of his peers.

More than just Metrics

So you think Romo could have done the same thing with a shaky O-Line, the Panthers other guy, "Minitron" and Running backs by Committee? one can make the case that O-Line in Dallas was the Real MVP.

So you thing Big Ben could have done it with that aforementioned package from Pats? one can make the case that Brown&Bell were the real MVPs on that Steelers team.

Rodgers with the same receiving core and with the reigning NFL offensive rookie year that didnt suffer from any sophomore slump...

Watt should not be in a conversation with his team missing the playoffs..

Brady or Rodgers! with advantage Brady

[bwgood77]

I can agree with that. I'm not a Brady fan but don't understand why all of a sudden he fell out of this discussion to some.

Oops I meant to quote you not give you an +1. Anyway, I don't know why he would be in the conversation. He is WAY behind Romo and Rodgers in every metric. Big Ben has had better numbers than Brady this year. Look how many passer rating points he is below the top two.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/playe ... backRating

I'd still give it to Watt though. He's the only guy in my book who had a crazy good season far better than any of his peers.

More than just Metrics

So you think Romo could have done the same thing with a shaky O-Line, the Panthers other guy, "Minitron" and Running backs by Committee? one can make the case that O-Line in Dallas was the Real MVP.

So you thing Big Ben could have done it with that aforementioned package from Pats? one can make the case that Brown&Bell were the real MVPs on that Steelers team.

Rodgers with the same receiving core and with the reigning NFL offensive rookie year that didnt suffer from any sophomore slump...

Watt should not be in a conversation with his team missing the playoffs..

Brady or Rodgers! with advantage Brady

Done what? His numbers were not mvp worthy, and frankly were not even very good at times. I do think if Ben or Tony had Gronk their jobs would be much easier. Ben also faces more pressure than Brady?

If you are just talking about winning, I don't think you can attribute that to the qb unless they engineered some amazing comebacks to singlehandedly win them games. The Pats have an extremely solid team around Brady and on both sides of the ball to make his wins come easier.

[ash_k]

Gronk was about 60-75% in the first half of the season...plus Brady won last year without him...I can tell you that Brady would go something like 16 - 0 with Dez, Witten (and underrated Williams) and that O-line..16-0 while breaking scoring records and breaking that Manning record with the TD passes...just like he would break records with one of the best receivers (if not the best today) Antonio Brown...

[bwgood77]

Gronk was about 60-75% in the first half of the season...plus Brady won last year without him...I can tell you that Brady would go something like 16 - 0 with Dez, Witten (and underrated Williams) and that O-line..16-0 while breaking scoring records and breaking that Manning record with the TD passes...just like he would break records with one of the best receivers (if not the best today) Antonio Brown...

The Pats didn't look too elite the first half of the season either. Last year the Pats had a cake schedule in a crap division. This year it was a bit tougher and better. Make no mistake, Brady is a stud, but he hasn't had an MVP year. And often times great qbs make receivers what they are...not vice versa. For whatever reason, Brady doesn't seem to have this impact on receivers.

Rodgers had a much better year, as did Romo, but I still think Watt is the most deserving.

[ash_k]

The Pats didn't look too elite the first half of the season either. Last year the Pats had a cake schedule in a crap division. This year it was a bit tougher and better. Make no mistake, Brady is a stud, but he hasn't had an MVP year. And often times great qbs make receivers what they are...not vice versa. For whatever reason, Brady doesn't seem to have this impact on receivers.

Rodgers had a much better year, as did Romo, but I still think Watt is the most deserving.

yet again the Pats are the number one seed! I wonder how many times had to go through Manning/Luck/Stafford/Rodgers/Rivers..
You must have missed the last 14 years of Brady...Brady has turned no name receivers into stars...the last 2 years, he has turned a former QB into a top receiver..Lafell was just the other guy with the Panthers then Brady has turned him into a 1000-yard receiver/big playmaker.
Great receivers find their ways regardless of the QB as long as they are targeted..as an example Randy Moss dominated as a rookie even though all of the deep balls were underthrown.

Brady played with a shaky O-Line, no established receiver/Gronk coming back from ACL/his #1 RB down with ACL and in spite of ALL that, he finished the season as the number seed He must the MVP in the league...

Rodgers has had the same consistent weapon all year Nelson/Cobb/Lacy..then looked like Peyton against the Seahawks..

Advantage Brady!