Realgm Fantasy Football Thread

[bluejerseyjinx]

They're too much of a crap shoot. Takes the whole research/due diligence aspect out of fantasy imo.

I would assume LB's / Edge rushers would be the most valued? I could obviously google but I'm opening dialogue lol

Right now I have it set so...

Tackles= 1 point

Sacks= 3 points

INT's= 5 pts

Spoiler:

LB's who rack up tackles are the most valuable.

[Cactus Jack]

I would assume LB's / Edge rushers would be the most valued? I could obviously google but I'm opening dialogue lol

Right now I have it set so...

Tackles= 1 point

Sacks= 3 points

INT's= 5 pts

Spoiler:

LB's who rack up tackles are the most valuable.

You'll learn to love it!

[bluejerseyjinx]

Right now I have it set so...

Tackles= 1 point

Sacks= 3 points

INT's= 5 pts

Spoiler:

LB's who rack up tackles are the most valuable.

You'll learn to love it!

Been playing fantasy football since 1986. Never played with DP position. I feel naked.

[Cactus Jack]

You'll learn to love it!

Been playing fantasy football since 1986. Never played with DP position. I feel naked.

A bunch of us have been playing with IDP's the last few years in BW's league. It adds another element.

[bluejerseyjinx]

You'll learn to love it!

Been playing fantasy football since 1986. Never played with DP position. I feel naked.

A bunch of us have been playing with IDP's the last few years in BW's league. It adds another element.

I'm all the element you need,

[goober]

can i join in?

[Cactus Jack]

I may have to join that one if there is room. i have always hated D/ST though....seems way too random to let 2-3 entire units be one position. You have a random game with an int return and a punt return it flips the game regardless of strategies at other positions.

I somewhat agree.

[Mamba Mentality]

So ya'll are gonna get rid of D/ST but still add a dp slot? C'mon now.

[Cactus Jack]

So ya'll are gonna get rid of D/ST but still add a dp slot? C'mon now.

I'm with BW on this one. Prefer playing with IDP's over the randomness of a week-week stream pick. But if the group wants to stick with status quo, then so be it.

[bluejerseyjinx]

So ya'll are gonna get rid of D/ST but still add a dp slot? C'mon now.

I'm with you. It sucks moose balls.

[bwgood77]

They're too much of a crap shoot. Takes the whole research/due diligence aspect out of fantasy imo.

I would assume LB's / Edge rushers would be the most valued? I could obviously google but I'm opening dialogue lol

Right now I have it set so...

Tackles= 1 point

Sacks= 3 points

INT's= 5 pts

Fumble Forced (FF)= 2 pts

Fumble Recovered (FR)= 2 pts

Safety (SF)= 2 pts

Passes Defensed (PD)= 1 pt

Spoiler:

LB's who rack up tackles are the most valuable.

Yes, you have it right....though I'd add td, in case someone returns a fumble or int for a td...big play. I once put Safety at 5 thinking it should be more than an int (which I had at 4) but then realized they get 3 anyway for the sack and 2 for the safety which would be 5 regardless, so had to fix that, so a safety/sack wouldn't be worth 8.

[bwgood77]

They're too much of a crap shoot. Takes the whole research/matchup analysis aspect out of fantasy imo. They're like kickers but more unpredictable.

They key is knowing how it is scored. I set up leagues and usually score it like 1 pt per tackle, 1 pt per pass defensed, 2 pts forced fumble, 2 pts recovered fumble, 4 pts int, 3 pts sack, 2 pts safety, 6 pts td, or something like that.

Then I usually focus on drafting guys who get a lot of tackles and sacks....typically LBs....but in my leagues you have to draft a LB, DB, DL and then you get a defensive utility so during a draft you just look at their previous seasons stats in tackles, ints, sacks, etc. ESPN gives option to look at this through a draft.

It's not nearly as random as something like K or team defense unless I guy like returns 2 interceptions for tds or something...but that's something that should be rewarded anyway. JJ Watt was a huge difference maker one year.

You can stream team defenses week to week with fairly good success...as a matter of fact that's what I did last year in one of my leagues and I finished first overall. DP and K are wildcards, there aren't very many metrics to determine their week to week viability. I don't like the idea of luck determining my outcomes. If it was up to me I'd get rid of both those positions.

I think streaming (if you mean working due to matchups works well too). I think a strategy could be used effectively too if you had a league that just had team offense instead of individual offensive players, but I like picking the players moreso than the teams.

I think kickers are kind of pointless and really random. Obviously you want one on a high powered offense, and potentially one that struggles to get into the end zone but it's still extremely random.

[Captain Ballmer]

I have neither played on a 2 QB league or one with DP. So repeating might be tough. I'm in.

[bluejerseyjinx]

They key is knowing how it is scored. I set up leagues and usually score it like 1 pt per tackle, 1 pt per pass defensed, 2 pts forced fumble, 2 pts recovered fumble, 4 pts int, 3 pts sack, 2 pts safety, 6 pts td, or something like that.

Then I usually focus on drafting guys who get a lot of tackles and sacks....typically LBs....but in my leagues you have to draft a LB, DB, DL and then you get a defensive utility so during a draft you just look at their previous seasons stats in tackles, ints, sacks, etc. ESPN gives option to look at this through a draft.

It's not nearly as random as something like K or team defense unless I guy like returns 2 interceptions for tds or something...but that's something that should be rewarded anyway. JJ Watt was a huge difference maker one year.

You can stream team defenses week to week with fairly good success...as a matter of fact that's what I did last year in one of my leagues and I finished first overall. DP and K are wildcards, there aren't very many metrics to determine their week to week viability. I don't like the idea of luck determining my outcomes. If it was up to me I'd get rid of both those positions.

I think streaming (if you mean working due to matchups works well too). I think a strategy could be used effectively too if you had a league that just had team offense instead of individual offensive players, but I like picking the players moreso than the teams.

I think kickers are kind of pointless and really random. Obviously you want one on a high powered offense, and potentially one that struggles to get into the end zone but it's still extremely random.

I couldn't disagree more.

[jwise44]

You'll learn to love it!

Been playing fantasy football since 1986. Never played with DP position. I feel naked.

Pics?

[bluejerseyjinx]

So ya'll are gonna get rid of D/ST but still add a dp slot? C'mon now.

I'm with BW on this one. Prefer playing with IDP's over the randomness of a week-week stream pick. But if the group wants to stick with status quo, then so be it.

You talked about changing the league by adding a QB and flex since February. Thought it was a great idea but not once did you ever mention or bring up getting rid of DT/ST and adding DP. I love surfing Kickers and DT's. That is why I pick those two spots last and change them almost every week. I love that facet of fantasy football. And to be honest I find it extremely fun and challanging. Why is it every time the mods get involved with their two cents worth they always take the fun out of everything and drive people away? (Because they can get away with it) IMHO, adding a QB and flex is enough change to swallow for one year. Between teases, parlays, bets, pig skin pick em's, etc., I don't have the time during the week to spend endless hours monitoring defensive playoff sacks, int's, tackles, etc. And we as fantasy players have no God damn idea which defensive scheme a DC will implement from week to week. Its a damn crap shoot.

[bluejerseyjinx]

You'll learn to love it!

Been playing fantasy football since 1986. Never played with DP position. I feel naked.

Pics?

Said I feel naked. Not actually naked. But seeing how you brought it up, I could use some more mistle toe and a bikini wax. please send money,

[Cactus Jack]

So ya'll are gonna get rid of D/ST but still add a dp slot? C'mon now.

I'm with BW on this one. Prefer playing with IDP's over the randomness of a week-week stream pick. But if the group wants to stick with status quo, then so be it.

You talked about changing the league by adding a QB and flex since February. Thought it was a great idea but not once did you ever mention or bring up getting rid of DT/ST and adding DP. I love surfing Kickers and DT's. That is why I pick those two spots last and change them almost every week. I love that facet of fantasy football. And to be honest I find it extremely fun and challanging. Why is it every time the mods get involved with their two cents worth they always take the fun out of everything and drive people away? (Because they can get away with it) IMHO, adding a QB and flex is enough change to swallow for one year. Between teases, parlays, bets, pig skin pick em's, etc., I don't have the time during the week to spend endless hours monitoring defensive playoff sacks, int's, tackles, etc. And we as fantasy players have no God damn idea which defensive scheme a DC will implement from week to week. Its a damn crap shoot.

What a drama queen!

You don't have to do any scouting whatsoever lol. I still might add a D/ST starter to go along with it just fyi.

Spoiler:

When it comes to the DP pick, just take the best tackling linebacker available & call it a day. No scouting required. Gives you a chance to take another Cowboy (Jaylon Smith?)

[bluejerseyjinx]

I'm with BW on this one. Prefer playing with IDP's over the randomness of a week-week stream pick. But if the group wants to stick with status quo, then so be it.

You talked about changing the league by adding a QB and flex since February. Thought it was a great idea but not once did you ever mention or bring up getting rid of DT/ST and adding DP. I love surfing Kickers and DT's. That is why I pick those two spots last and change them almost every week. I love that facet of fantasy football. And to be honest I find it extremely fun and challanging. Why is it every time the mods get involved with their two cents worth they always take the fun out of everything and drive people away? (Because they can get away with it) IMHO, adding a QB and flex is enough change to swallow for one year. Between teases, parlays, bets, pig skin pick em's, etc., I don't have the time during the week to spend endless hours monitoring defensive playoff sacks, int's, tackles, etc. And we as fantasy players have no God damn idea which defensive scheme a DC will implement from week to week. Its a damn crap shoot.

What a drama queen!

You don't have to do any scouting whatsoever lol. I still might add a D/ST starter to go along with it just fyi.

Spoiler:

When it comes to the DP pick, just take the best tackling linebacker available & call it a day. No scouting required. Gives you a chance to take another Cowboy (Jaylon Smith?)

Its just the way I feel. No drama. Would you rather have me lie about how I feel?

[bwgood77]

I'm with BW on this one. Prefer playing with IDP's over the randomness of a week-week stream pick. But if the group wants to stick with status quo, then so be it.

You talked about changing the league by adding a QB and flex since February. Thought it was a great idea but not once did you ever mention or bring up getting rid of DT/ST and adding DP. I love surfing Kickers and DT's. That is why I pick those two spots last and change them almost every week. I love that facet of fantasy football. And to be honest I find it extremely fun and challanging. Why is it every time the mods get involved with their two cents worth they always take the fun out of everything and drive people away? (Because they can get away with it) IMHO, adding a QB and flex is enough change to swallow for one year. Between teases, parlays, bets, pig skin pick em's, etc., I don't have the time during the week to spend endless hours monitoring defensive playoff sacks, int's, tackles, etc. And we as fantasy players have no God damn idea which defensive scheme a DC will implement from week to week. Its a damn crap shoot.

What a drama queen!

You don't have to do any scouting whatsoever lol. I still might add a D/ST starter to go along with it just fyi.

Spoiler:

When it comes to the DP pick, just take the best tackling linebacker available & call it a day. No scouting required. Gives you a chance to take another Cowboy (Jaylon Smith?)

Change is hard. Picking D/ST and K last (which is what I would do too because they are mostly a crapshoot), it doesn't seem like it would be a big deal to get rid of positions you pay little attention to. And just hope to find a decent matchup each week. I mean I could see making a big deal about eliminating the QB or RB position, but K or D/ST?

Anyway, none of this is that big of a deal. I was just stating opinions early. I think people like K & D/ST instead of individual skill players and strategy on both sides of the ball just because that's how they've always done it. Once you start playing with 2 QBs and DPs, it's more strategic and fun....as you know, since you were against those before being in the other league and now have played 2-3 years with it.