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Post#21 » by Mr B » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:03 am

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:This thread is going terribly. Nobody is answering the real question or are afraid to. Sorry I brought it up.

We don't see eye to eye on that. :wink:

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Post#22 » by DOT » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:06 pm

Cowboys fans complaining is some real First World Problems type of stuff

You guys have a good team. You're not that far off. 3 straight 12-win seasons coming into this year, only 2 losing seasons since 2011 (3 after this year, most likely), yet some of y'all are whining like you're the Browns or something

What you need is a GM who can make the margins moves, find diamonds in the rough to fill in the gaps. That's how you go from a good team to a great team

You also need a good coach. McCarthy and Jones are far from the worst coach and owner/GM, but they're just not good enough, which is the problem with the Cowboys.
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Post#23 » by hermes » Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:21 pm

bjj, i think the cowboys won't be any good again until you drop this chiefs dalliance and commit to dallas 100%

you've got to move on from patrick mahomes man, leave him by the side of the road

being a fan of two teams isn't natural, the cowboys are going to suffer as long as you are hanging on to the chiefs
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Post#24 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sun Nov 17, 2024 4:36 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:This thread is going terribly. Nobody is answering the real question or are afraid to. Sorry I brought it up.

We don't see eye to eye on that. :wink:

Times have sure changed in here 10 years later. I remember being the lone Cowboy voice in here till Mr. B. joined and taking all the heat from everyone in the general forum back then. It was very unwelcoming back then when all the posters in the forum back then disliked you for just being a Cowboy fan. And they had no problem at all back then explaining all the things wrong, and what they hated about the Cowboys. Bad trades (Roy Williams), bad contracts, salary cap hell, bad drafts, Jerry, Jason Garrett, horrible defenses, choking Tony Romo, bad front office, etc,.
10 years later I give all the haters and non Cowboy fans a chance to give their views and honest opinions on what they feel is wrong with the Cowboys and nobody will answer the question or questions. Now that we have about 7 Cowboy posters in here, I just thought it would be much more interesting for the haters and non Cowboy posters to give their views and opinions regarding all things Dallas, to the Cowboy posters instead of me. Thought it would have more effect to the question being asked.
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Post#25 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Nov 17, 2024 4:45 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:This thread is going terribly. Nobody is answering the real question or are afraid to. Sorry I brought it up.

We don't see eye to eye on that. :wink:

Times have sure changed in here 10 years later. I remember being the lone Cowboy voice in here till Mr. B. joined and taking all the heat from everyone in the general forum back then. It was very unwelcoming back then when all the posters in the forum back then disliked you for just being a Cowboy fan. And they had no problem at all back then explaining all the things wrong, and what they hated about the Cowboys. Bad trades (Roy Williams), bad contracts, salary cap hell, bad drafts, Jerry, Jason Garrett, horrible defenses, choking Tony Romo, bad front office, etc,.
10 years later I give all the haters and non Cowboy fans a chance to give their views and honest opinions on what they feel is wrong with the Cowboys and nobody will answer the question or questions. Now that we have about 7 Cowboy posters in here, I just thought it would be much more interesting for the haters and non Cowboy posters to give their views and opinions regarding all things Dallas, to the Cowboy posters instead of me. Thought it would have more effect to the question being asked.

The problem is pretty obvious. It doesn't take a genius. Honestly, it's like beating a dead horse. That's why no one took it serious.
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Post#26 » by El Turco » Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:23 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:This thread is going terribly. Nobody is answering the real question or are afraid to. Sorry I brought it up.

We don't see eye to eye on that. :wink:

Times have sure changed in here 10 years later. I remember being the lone Cowboy voice in here till Mr. B. joined and taking all the heat from everyone in the general forum back then. It was very unwelcoming back then when all the posters in the forum back then disliked you for just being a Cowboy fan. And they had no problem at all back then explaining all the things wrong, and what they hated about the Cowboys. Bad trades (Roy Williams), bad contracts, salary cap hell, bad drafts, Jerry, Jason Garrett, horrible defenses, choking Tony Romo, bad front office, etc,.
10 years later I give all the haters and non Cowboy fans a chance to give their views and honest opinions on what they feel is wrong with the Cowboys and nobody will answer the question or questions. Now that we have about 7 Cowboy posters in here, I just thought it would be much more interesting for the haters and non Cowboy posters to give their views and opinions regarding all things Dallas, to the Cowboy posters instead of me. Thought it would have more effect to the question being asked.


Next year they'll start 9-3 and Cowboys fans will talk about how vibes are different this time, then Cowboys will lose to Niners in the playoffs and they'll implode about Jerry and Dak. Rinse, repeat.
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Post#27 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:45 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:We don't see eye to eye on that. :wink:

Times have sure changed in here 10 years later. I remember being the lone Cowboy voice in here till Mr. B. joined and taking all the heat from everyone in the general forum back then. It was very unwelcoming back then when all the posters in the forum back then disliked you for just being a Cowboy fan. And they had no problem at all back then explaining all the things wrong, and what they hated about the Cowboys. Bad trades (Roy Williams), bad contracts, salary cap hell, bad drafts, Jerry, Jason Garrett, horrible defenses, choking Tony Romo, bad front office, etc,.
10 years later I give all the haters and non Cowboy fans a chance to give their views and honest opinions on what they feel is wrong with the Cowboys and nobody will answer the question or questions. Now that we have about 7 Cowboy posters in here, I just thought it would be much more interesting for the haters and non Cowboy posters to give their views and opinions regarding all things Dallas, to the Cowboy posters instead of me. Thought it would have more effect to the question being asked.


Next year they'll start 9-3 and Cowboys fans will talk about how vibes are different this time, then Cowboys will lose to Niners in the playoffs and they'll implode about Jerry and Dak. Rinse, repeat.

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Post#29 » by Mr B » Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:15 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:We don't see eye to eye on that. :wink:

Times have sure changed in here 10 years later. I remember being the lone Cowboy voice in here till Mr. B. joined and taking all the heat from everyone in the general forum back then. It was very unwelcoming back then when all the posters in the forum back then disliked you for just being a Cowboy fan. And they had no problem at all back then explaining all the things wrong, and what they hated about the Cowboys. Bad trades (Roy Williams), bad contracts, salary cap hell, bad drafts, Jerry, Jason Garrett, horrible defenses, choking Tony Romo, bad front office, etc,.
10 years later I give all the haters and non Cowboy fans a chance to give their views and honest opinions on what they feel is wrong with the Cowboys and nobody will answer the question or questions. Now that we have about 7 Cowboy posters in here, I just thought it would be much more interesting for the haters and non Cowboy posters to give their views and opinions regarding all things Dallas, to the Cowboy posters instead of me. Thought it would have more effect to the question being asked.


Next year they'll start 9-3 and Cowboys fans will talk about how vibes are different this time, then Cowboys will lose to Niners in the playoffs and they'll implode about Jerry and Dak. Rinse, repeat.

And the the Niners will lose in the following round and will continue to be in a longer SB winning drought than the Cowboys.
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Post#30 » by bwgood77 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:00 am

Well they had 12 wins each of the last 3 years so were really good. It's just hard to win it all. It seemed easy for them in the early 90s, but even the last 3 years they had similar success from like 78-83 when they won 11 or 12 games every year but lost in the playoffs, before those Landry years started to get worse and worse.

Sometimes it does seem like Jerry Jones sticks with coaches for too long, but at the same time, very few teams win 12 games 3 years in a row, and even teams that do, don't necessarily win a SB in that time. Look at Buffalo, Baltimore, Philly, SF, etc.

You just have to decide if you are the type of fan who will stick with the team through thick and thin, a die hard fan, or if you will just switch allegiances and become a huge fan of the best team in recent years, like, for example, the Chiefs.
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Post#31 » by El Turco » Mon Nov 18, 2024 8:18 am

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El Turco wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:Times have sure changed in here 10 years later. I remember being the lone Cowboy voice in here till Mr. B. joined and taking all the heat from everyone in the general forum back then. It was very unwelcoming back then when all the posters in the forum back then disliked you for just being a Cowboy fan. And they had no problem at all back then explaining all the things wrong, and what they hated about the Cowboys. Bad trades (Roy Williams), bad contracts, salary cap hell, bad drafts, Jerry, Jason Garrett, horrible defenses, choking Tony Romo, bad front office, etc,.
10 years later I give all the haters and non Cowboy fans a chance to give their views and honest opinions on what they feel is wrong with the Cowboys and nobody will answer the question or questions. Now that we have about 7 Cowboy posters in here, I just thought it would be much more interesting for the haters and non Cowboy posters to give their views and opinions regarding all things Dallas, to the Cowboy posters instead of me. Thought it would have more effect to the question being asked.


Next year they'll start 9-3 and Cowboys fans will talk about how vibes are different this time, then Cowboys will lose to Niners in the playoffs and they'll implode about Jerry and Dak. Rinse, repeat.

And the the Niners will lose in the following round and will continue to be in a longer SB winning drought than the Cowboys.


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Post#32 » by Mariner » Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:33 pm

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El Turco wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:Times have sure changed in here 10 years later. I remember being the lone Cowboy voice in here till Mr. B. joined and taking all the heat from everyone in the general forum back then. It was very unwelcoming back then when all the posters in the forum back then disliked you for just being a Cowboy fan. And they had no problem at all back then explaining all the things wrong, and what they hated about the Cowboys. Bad trades (Roy Williams), bad contracts, salary cap hell, bad drafts, Jerry, Jason Garrett, horrible defenses, choking Tony Romo, bad front office, etc,.
10 years later I give all the haters and non Cowboy fans a chance to give their views and honest opinions on what they feel is wrong with the Cowboys and nobody will answer the question or questions. Now that we have about 7 Cowboy posters in here, I just thought it would be much more interesting for the haters and non Cowboy posters to give their views and opinions regarding all things Dallas, to the Cowboy posters instead of me. Thought it would have more effect to the question being asked.


Next year they'll start 9-3 and Cowboys fans will talk about how vibes are different this time, then Cowboys will lose to Niners in the playoffs and they'll implode about Jerry and Dak. Rinse, repeat.

And the the Niners will lose in the following round and will continue to be in a longer SB winning drought than the Cowboys.

Ya at least we are not 49er fans. There window is shut with an aging LT and RB. Purdy about to get the bag.
There SB drought is longer then ours. There SB losses seem to make them proud which is weird.
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Post#33 » by Mr B » Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:54 pm

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Next year they'll start 9-3 and Cowboys fans will talk about how vibes are different this time, then Cowboys will lose to Niners in the playoffs and they'll implode about Jerry and Dak. Rinse, repeat.

And the the Niners will lose in the following round and will continue to be in a longer SB winning drought than the Cowboys.


Have I missed Cowboys in the conference finals?

Where you lose in the playoffs doesn’t matter only the fact that you lost. A failed run is a failed run. Unless your trophy says Lombardi at the bottom of it, it doesn’t matter.
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Post#34 » by Mr B » Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:58 pm

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El Turco wrote:
Next year they'll start 9-3 and Cowboys fans will talk about how vibes are different this time, then Cowboys will lose to Niners in the playoffs and they'll implode about Jerry and Dak. Rinse, repeat.

And the the Niners will lose in the following round and will continue to be in a longer SB winning drought than the Cowboys.

Ya at least we are not 49er fans. There window is shut with an aging LT and RB. Purdy about to get the bag.
There SB drought is longer then ours. There SB losses seem to make them proud which is weird.

They are in the same position that the Cowboys were in a couple years ago. Their stars are getting older and they have a system QB that is about this be the highest paid player in NFL history. If I were a Niners fan the last thing I would do is talk bad about the Cowboys.
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Post#35 » by QB_Eagles » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:11 pm

Mr B wrote:
El Turco wrote:
Mr B wrote:And the the Niners will lose in the following round and will continue to be in a longer SB winning drought than the Cowboys.


Have I missed Cowboys in the conference finals?

Where you lose in the playoffs doesn’t matter only the fact that you lost. A failed run is a failed run. Unless your trophy says Lombardi at the bottom of it, it doesn’t matter.

Can you tell that to the guys that hand out trophies in the semi-finals? I think they aren't aware of this fact.
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Post#36 » by Mr B » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:20 pm

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Have I missed Cowboys in the conference finals?

Where you lose in the playoffs doesn’t matter only the fact that you lost. A failed run is a failed run. Unless your trophy says Lombardi at the bottom of it, it doesn’t matter.

Can you tell that to the guys that hand out trophies in the semi-finals? I think they aren't aware of this fact.

You mean the 1st place loser trophies? Someone should ask those guys which trophy they prefer the 1st place loser trophy or the Lombardi Trophy.
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Post#37 » by QB_Eagles » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:32 pm

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Mr B wrote:Where you lose in the playoffs doesn’t matter only the fact that you lost. A failed run is a failed run. Unless your trophy says Lombardi at the bottom of it, it doesn’t matter.

Can you tell that to the guys that hand out trophies in the semi-finals? I think they aren't aware of this fact.

You mean the 1st place loser trophies? Someone should ask those guys which trophy they prefer the 1st place loser trophy or the Lombardi Trophy.

No, actually one of the conference championship trophies goes to the eventual Super Bowl winner.
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Post#38 » by El Turco » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:38 pm

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El Turco wrote:
Mr B wrote:And the the Niners will lose in the following round and will continue to be in a longer SB winning drought than the Cowboys.


Have I missed Cowboys in the conference finals?

Where you lose in the playoffs doesn’t matter only the fact that you lost. A failed run is a failed run. Unless your trophy says Lombardi at the bottom of it, it doesn’t matter.


Niners lost in the Super Bowl, Cowboys havent made it to the conference title game in 30 years. You said Niners lose a round after Cowboys, which is factually wrong. No need to move the goal posts.
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Post#39 » by El Turco » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:38 pm

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El Turco wrote:
Next year they'll start 9-3 and Cowboys fans will talk about how vibes are different this time, then Cowboys will lose to Niners in the playoffs and they'll implode about Jerry and Dak. Rinse, repeat.

And the the Niners will lose in the following round and will continue to be in a longer SB winning drought than the Cowboys.

Ya at least we are not 49er fans. There window is shut with an aging LT and RB. Purdy about to get the bag.
There SB drought is longer then ours. There SB losses seem to make them proud which is weird.


That's just large dose of copium. Of course losing the super bowl in overtime gives you more hope than having a quarterback that choked for 7 years straight.

There is levels to everything, even Bengals fans get to laugh at Browns, surely we can crap on Browns of NFC.
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Post#40 » by Mariner » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:47 pm

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Mr B wrote:And the the Niners will lose in the following round and will continue to be in a longer SB winning drought than the Cowboys.

Ya at least we are not 49er fans. There window is shut with an aging LT and RB. Purdy about to get the bag.
There SB drought is longer then ours. There SB losses seem to make them proud which is weird.


That's just large dose of copium. Of course losing the super bowl in overtime gives you more hope than having a quarterback that choked for 7 years straight.

There is levels to everything, even Bengals fans get to laugh at Browns, surely we can crap on Browns of NFC.

Love the irony of you using copium.

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