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Post#21 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:04 pm

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duke, vikings only have 3 draft picks???

Only 3?

Kwesi must hate having draft picks given his recent history. :wink:


3 right now (1st, 5th, and 5th). A 3rd round pick is expected to be added from free agent compensation.

Is smart by Kwesi. How can you keep screwing up drafts if you don’t have any picks to use

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Post#22 » by QB_Eagles » Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:09 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:Teams are gonna have to do their homework this year. This draft sucks balls

Maybe the hype isn't there, but the number of good players joining the NFL should be about the same as any year. They just might not get drafted in the first round.
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Post#23 » by hermes » Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:10 pm

yeah he does seem to be better at free agency than drafting thus far

plus i won't have to pay as much attention to the draft. maybe it is all for the best
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Post#24 » by WentzerWuver » Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:16 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:Teams are gonna have to do their homework this year. This draft sucks balls
Just cause it's not loaded with first round QB prospects doesn't mean it's a bad draft. This guy reminds me of Joshy which you should follow closely on who takes him. Hopefully my Eagles on day 3 but he's probably gone by day 2 to a lucky team who did their home work.

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Post#25 » by DOT » Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:01 pm

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hermes wrote:duke, vikings only have 3 draft picks???

Only 3?

Kwesi must hate having draft picks given his recent history. :wink:


3 right now (1st, 5th, and 5th). A 3rd round pick is expected to be added from free agent compensation.

Is smart by Kwesi. How can you keep screwing up drafts if you don’t have any picks to use

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That is actually one of the things I can credit Baalke for, is he did do some smart trade-downs, like with the Vikes this past year still getting Brian Thomas Jr.

Of course, the guys he took with those extra picks were usually busts, so not too much credit.
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Post#26 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:26 pm

Listening to McShay last night. He says he has talked to some front office people that have Dart as possibly their #2 QB in this draft
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Post#27 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:59 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Listening to McShay last night. He says he has talked to some front office people that have Dart as possibly their #2 QB in this draft
Didn't see what was said but I have Dart as my QB1 in this class.

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I don't like neither Ward nor Sanders for my Eagles and do not think either will become elite as pros. One of them is Geno and the other is George. And Dart is Joshy.

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Post#28 » by Mr B » Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:42 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Listening to McShay last night. He says he has talked to some front office people that have Dart as possibly their #2 QB in this draft

I’ve been saying it for weeks (with a few here who disagree) that without a doubt Sanders, and Ward will go in the top 5 and that there will be another QB that no one is talking about (being a top 10 pick) that will shoot up the boards. Yesterday I suggested Milroe but it could easily be Dart (or both).

Don’t underestimate how QB starved some teams are and don’t underestimate the stupidity of some GM’s.
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Post#29 » by WentzerWuver » Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:01 am

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Duke4life831 wrote:Listening to McShay last night. He says he has talked to some front office people that have Dart as possibly their #2 QB in this draft

I’ve been saying it for weeks (with a few here who disagree) that without a doubt Sanders, and Ward will go in the top 5 and that there will be another QB that no one is talking about (being a top 10 pick) is hat will shoot up the boards. Yesterday I suggested Milroe but it could easily be Dart (or both).

Don’t underestimate how QB starved some teams are and don’t underestimate the stupidity of some GM’s.
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Post#30 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:48 am

“I don’t see a whole bunch of a difference between the potential value in what you can provide at the QB position in the NFL between Cam Ward, Sanders, and Dart”

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Post#31 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:54 am

Duke4life831 wrote:“I don’t see a whole bunch of a difference between the potential value in what you can provide at the QB position in the NFL between Cam Ward, Sanders, and Dart”

Todd McShay today

Is Dart your guy?
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Post#32 » by Mr B » Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:02 am

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Duke4life831 wrote:Listening to McShay last night. He says he has talked to some front office people that have Dart as possibly their #2 QB in this draft

I’ve been saying it for weeks (with a few here who disagree) that without a doubt Sanders, and Ward will go in the top 5 and that there will be another QB that no one is talking about (being a top 10 pick) is hat will shoot up the boards. Yesterday I suggested Milroe but it could easily be Dart (or both).

Don’t underestimate how QB starved some teams are and don’t underestimate the stupidity of some GM’s.
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Personally I don’t like any of the QB’s in this class and don’t think any of them should be drafted in the 1st round. But several teams are in dire need and this is all there is.
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Post#33 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:05 am

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Duke4life831 wrote:“I don’t see a whole bunch of a difference between the potential value in what you can provide at the QB position in the NFL between Cam Ward, Sanders, and Dart”

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Is Dart your guy?


Said it on here after that Duke game. I thought he looked just JJ McCarthy out there. Looked complete different than a young Dart at USC. Then looked up the stats for the year and he had damn good stats.

With that said, I’m always going to have that USC bias. But ya at minimum I have at #2. Probably will have him #1 by the time the draft comes around. Not a fan of Sanders, I just think he’s a Bridgewater clone. And just iffy with Ward.

With that said, I don’t think any of these guys before Nix if they were in the draft last year.

Put it one way. If I were to do just a straight up big board. Don’t know I would think any of these guys are locks to be a 1st round pick in most drafts
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Post#34 » by azcatz11 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:00 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:“I don’t see a whole bunch of a difference between the potential value in what you can provide at the QB position in the NFL between Cam Ward, Sanders, and Dart”

Todd McShay today

Is Dart your guy?


Said it on here after that Duke game. I thought he looked just JJ McCarthy out there. Looked complete different than a young Dart at USC. Then looked up the stats for the year and he had damn good stats.

With that said, I’m always going to have that USC bias. But ya at minimum I have at #2. Probably will have him #1 by the time the draft comes around. Not a fan of Sanders, I just think he’s a Bridgewater clone. And just iffy with Ward.

With that said, I don’t think any of these guys before Nix if they were in the draft last year.

Put it one way. If I were to do just a straight up big board. Don’t know I would think any of these guys are locks to be a 1st round pick in most drafts


People are sleeping on Sanders...I admit, I was too but I watched a lot of Colorado and the kid is legit and can make every throw. I would take him #1 in a heart beat and not think twice.

If you surrounded Sanders with the play makers MIami had on offense he would have put up better numbers than Ward IMO.

I personally don't see the hype with Travis Hunter. I believe we have another Peter Warrick situation
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Post#35 » by WentzerWuver » Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:41 am

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Cactus Jack wrote:Is Dart your guy?


Said it on here after that Duke game. I thought he looked just JJ McCarthy out there. Looked complete different than a young Dart at USC. Then looked up the stats for the year and he had damn good stats.

With that said, I’m always going to have that USC bias. But ya at minimum I have at #2. Probably will have him #1 by the time the draft comes around. Not a fan of Sanders, I just think he’s a Bridgewater clone. And just iffy with Ward.

With that said, I don’t think any of these guys before Nix if they were in the draft last year.

Put it one way. If I were to do just a straight up big board. Don’t know I would think any of these guys are locks to be a 1st round pick in most drafts


People are sleeping on Sanders...I admit, I was too but I watched a lot of Colorado and the kid is legit and can make every throw. I would take him #1 in a heart beat and not think twice.

If you surrounded Sanders with the play makers MIami had on offense he would have put up better numbers than Ward IMO.

I personally don't see the hype with Travis Hunter. I believe we have another Peter Warrick situation
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Post#36 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:51 am

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Cactus Jack wrote:Is Dart your guy?


Said it on here after that Duke game. I thought he looked just JJ McCarthy out there. Looked complete different than a young Dart at USC. Then looked up the stats for the year and he had damn good stats.

With that said, I’m always going to have that USC bias. But ya at minimum I have at #2. Probably will have him #1 by the time the draft comes around. Not a fan of Sanders, I just think he’s a Bridgewater clone. And just iffy with Ward.

With that said, I don’t think any of these guys before Nix if they were in the draft last year.

Put it one way. If I were to do just a straight up big board. Don’t know I would think any of these guys are locks to be a 1st round pick in most drafts


People are sleeping on Sanders...I admit, I was too but I watched a lot of Colorado and the kid is legit and can make every throw. I would take him #1 in a heart beat and not think twice.

If you surrounded Sanders with the play makers MIami had on offense he would have put up better numbers than Ward IMO.

I personally don't see the hype with Travis Hunter. I believe we have another Peter Warrick situation


I just don’t see it. I just see Teddy 2.0. No doubt very accurate, but beyond that I just don’t see anything standout with him. Arm strength is pretty average. I don’t see high play making ability with him.

I remember when Teddy got drafted and trying to get hyped so I went and saw his stats and especially his completion percentage and got pretty excited (didn’t watch a ton of American conference back in the day haha).

Went and watched his highlights and started to get a little nervous. A lot of throws to wide open guys, a lot of yards after the catch. Not too many high level tight window throws. Came away far more impressed by the WRs (Devonte Parker was his WR #1 against American Conference talent).

That’s basically all I’ve seen from Sanders the last 2 years. When his guy is open, he can hit him with an accurate throw. Will rather take the easy short pass if no one is wide open. I’m not seeing high level stuff.

I think he ends up like Teddy in the NFL. Low risk, low reward QB. If the first option isn’t wide open, he will just check down. He’s not going to throw anyone open, he’s not going to make any of the big plays.

Don’t think he’s worth a 1st round pick. I think at best he’s a game manager at the next level. And most likely a high level backup.
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Post#37 » by El Turco » Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:29 am

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Duke4life831 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Is Dart your guy?


Said it on here after that Duke game. I thought he looked just JJ McCarthy out there. Looked complete different than a young Dart at USC. Then looked up the stats for the year and he had damn good stats.

With that said, I’m always going to have that USC bias. But ya at minimum I have at #2. Probably will have him #1 by the time the draft comes around. Not a fan of Sanders, I just think he’s a Bridgewater clone. And just iffy with Ward.

With that said, I don’t think any of these guys before Nix if they were in the draft last year.

Put it one way. If I were to do just a straight up big board. Don’t know I would think any of these guys are locks to be a 1st round pick in most drafts


People are sleeping on Sanders...I admit, I was too but I watched a lot of Colorado and the kid is legit and can make every throw. I would take him #1 in a heart beat and not think twice.

If you surrounded Sanders with the play makers MIami had on offense he would have put up better numbers than Ward IMO.

I personally don't see the hype with Travis Hunter. I believe we have another Peter Warrick situation


Can you tell which ones? Because I came away with understanding he can't make many throws.
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Post#38 » by azcatz11 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:33 pm

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Said it on here after that Duke game. I thought he looked just JJ McCarthy out there. Looked complete different than a young Dart at USC. Then looked up the stats for the year and he had damn good stats.

With that said, I’m always going to have that USC bias. But ya at minimum I have at #2. Probably will have him #1 by the time the draft comes around. Not a fan of Sanders, I just think he’s a Bridgewater clone. And just iffy with Ward.

With that said, I don’t think any of these guys before Nix if they were in the draft last year.

Put it one way. If I were to do just a straight up big board. Don’t know I would think any of these guys are locks to be a 1st round pick in most drafts


People are sleeping on Sanders...I admit, I was too but I watched a lot of Colorado and the kid is legit and can make every throw. I would take him #1 in a heart beat and not think twice.

If you surrounded Sanders with the play makers MIami had on offense he would have put up better numbers than Ward IMO.

I personally don't see the hype with Travis Hunter. I believe we have another Peter Warrick situation


I just don’t see it. I just see Teddy 2.0. No doubt very accurate, but beyond that I just don’t see anything standout with him. Arm strength is pretty average. I don’t see high play making ability with him.

I remember when Teddy got drafted and trying to get hyped so I went and saw his stats and especially his completion percentage and got pretty excited (didn’t watch a ton of American conference back in the day haha).

Went and watched his highlights and started to get a little nervous. A lot of throws to wide open guys, a lot of yards after the catch. Not too many high level tight window throws. Came away far more impressed by the WRs (Devonte Parker was his WR #1 against American Conference talent).

That’s basically all I’ve seen from Sanders the last 2 years. When his guy is open, he can hit him with an accurate throw. Will rather take the easy short pass if no one is wide open. I’m not seeing high level stuff.

I think he ends up like Teddy in the NFL. Low risk, low reward QB. If the first option isn’t wide open, he will just check down. He’s not going to throw anyone open, he’s not going to make any of the big plays.

Don’t think he’s worth a 1st round pick. I think at best he’s a game manager at the next level. And most likely a high level backup.


Not to get into a numbers argument but Teddy was a system QB in college. I agree with your analysis of Teddy. He had hype because he was the best 7x7 player in HS of all time and it never translated to real football because he didn't have any special attributes.

Check out the Kansas St game if you want to see his best game of the season. They were supposed to lose that game by 4 TD's and they almost won.
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That would be a hefty price to pay to move from last to top 3.

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