2013 NFL Week Sixteen Game Thread

Post #221 » by **Da Schwab** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:37 pm

Bleeding Blue wrote:I just put emphasis on MVP's bc they are individual and compare you to to your peers...which is a better metric over time vs stats.

I really don't mean to offend you when I say this, but that is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

NeedsMoreCheese · Post #222 » by **NeedsMoreCheese** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:39 pm

Can there be a separate thread for all the pats fans to hate PeyPey? Ain't no one got time for that.
Like seriously who the hell cares? He beat y'all that one time, y'all beat him a bunch of others.

Bleeding Blue · Post #223 » by **Bleeding Blue** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:40 pm

Celtsfan1980 wrote:While we're on this subject if Manning had a very good game against a Ravens team that wasn't very good, the defense never would have been in position to blow it. I watched the game, and don't recall being impressed with Manning's performance. If we're going to talk about the defense, the Colts' defense played very well the first two games the year the Colts won the Super Bowl. And Manning didn't. He deserves any choker label he gets.

If I recall correctly, the Colts beat the top 3 defenses in that super bowl run....the only time it has been done in NFL history.

Post #224 » by **studcrackers** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:40 pm

i really wish the nfl would change spot foul pass interference

Bleeding Blue · Post #225 » by **Bleeding Blue** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:41 pm

Schwabby wrote:
Bleeding Blue wrote:I just put emphasis on MVP's bc they are individual and compare you to to your peers...which is a better metric over time vs stats.

I really don't mean to offend you when I say this, but that is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

No offense taken, but please explain.

Celtsfan1980 · Post #226 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:42 pm

Kohl Is A Mome wrote:Can there be a separate thread for all the pats fans to hate PeyPey? Ain't no one got time for that.
Like seriously who the hell cares? He beat y'all that one time, y'all beat him a bunch of others.

I'm a Browns fan.

NeedsMoreCheese · Post #227 » by **NeedsMoreCheese** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:43 pm

Celtsfan1980 wrote:
Kohl Is A Mome wrote:Can there be a separate thread for all the pats fans to hate PeyPey? Ain't no one got time for that.
Like seriously who the hell cares? He beat y'all that one time, y'all beat him a bunch of others.

I'm a Browns fan.

That's the third different team I've seen you claim to be a fan of. Interesting

Post #228 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:45 pm

Rich Rane wrote:
iCooter wrote:Mannings stats are going to be broken just like marinos give it 10 years

Perhaps. Still though, 51 TDs in 15 games is pretty damn good.

Yeah but they were padded. Just like Brady's was in 2007. Just like staffords or luck if he gets receivers are gonna be in 2016.

Brady's best year was his SB year. Mannings was his SB year. Manning comings back against that tough New England defense and beating the bears is ten times better then anything he did this year.

Ten times.

Post #229 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:46 pm

Kohl Is A Mome wrote:
Celtsfan1980 wrote:
Kohl Is A Mome wrote:Can there be a separate thread for all the pats fans to hate PeyPey? Ain't no one got time for that.
Like seriously who the hell cares? He beat y'all that one time, y'all beat him a bunch of others.

I'm a Browns fan.

That's the third different team I've seen you claim to be a fan of. Interesting

He's always been a browns fan. Where have you been?

Bleeding Blue · Post #230 » by **Bleeding Blue** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:47 pm

I wonder if Flacco's contract will go down as one of the worst of all-time, so overpaid.

Celtsfan1980 · Post #231 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:47 pm

Bleeding Blue wrote:
Celtsfan1980 wrote:While we're on this subject if Manning had a very good game against a Ravens team that wasn't very good, the defense never would have been in position to blow it. I watched the game, and don't recall being impressed with Manning's performance. If we're going to talk about the defense, the Colts' defense played very well the first two games the year the Colts won the Super Bowl. And Manning didn't. He deserves any choker label he gets.

If I recall correctly, the Colts beat the top 3 defenses in that super bowl run....the only time it has been done in NFL history.

Were they good against the pass or run? If a defense's strength is vs. the run, it shouldn't effect the quarterback too much. In the playoffs you're likely to play against some good defenses. He still threw 5 interceptions in the first two games, and was lucky to win the Super Bowl.

Post #232 » by **Geoffrey P** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:47 pm

Hightower did something productive!

NeedsMoreCheese · Post #233 » by **NeedsMoreCheese** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:48 pm

iCooter wrote:
Kohl Is A Mome wrote:
Celtsfan1980 wrote:I'm a Browns fan.

That's the third different team I've seen you claim to be a fan of. Interesting

He's always been a browns fan. Where have you been?

I swear he was a giants fan at some point earlier this season. Unless there's a dude with a really similar name im confusing him with

Bleeding Blue · Post #234 » by **Bleeding Blue** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:49 pm

Celtsfan1980 wrote:
Bleeding Blue wrote:
Celtsfan1980 wrote:While we're on this subject if Manning had a very good game against a Ravens team that wasn't very good, the defense never would have been in position to blow it. I watched the game, and don't recall being impressed with Manning's performance. If we're going to talk about the defense, the Colts' defense played very well the first two games the year the Colts won the Super Bowl. And Manning didn't. He deserves any choker label he gets.

If I recall correctly, the Colts beat the top 3 defenses in that super bowl run....the only time it has been done in NFL history.

Were they good against the pass or run? If a defense's strength is vs. the run, it shouldn't effect the quarterback too much. In the playoffs you're likely to play against some good defenses. He still threw 5 interceptions in the first two games, and was lucky to win the Super Bowl.

We are obviously going to have agree to disagree on this.

Post #235 » by **studcrackers** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:50 pm

also i think it's dumb that defensive holding's an automatic 1st down.

hermes · Post #236 » by **hermes** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:51 pm

go steelers

Celtsfan1980 · Post #237 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:52 pm

Kohl Is A Mome wrote:
Celtsfan1980 wrote:
Kohl Is A Mome wrote:Can there be a separate thread for all the pats fans to hate PeyPey? Ain't no one got time for that.
Like seriously who the hell cares? He beat y'all that one time, y'all beat him a bunch of others.

I'm a Browns fan.

That's the third different team I've seen you claim to be a fan of. Interesting

I live in New York and therefore the Giants are my second favorite team. My father is a big Browns fan. I was a fan growing up primarily because of my father, and have continued to pull for them. I don't think anything has changed in years.

Post #238 » by **Da Schwab** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:52 pm

Bleeding Blue wrote:
Schwabby wrote:
Bleeding Blue wrote:I just put emphasis on MVP's bc they are individual and compare you to to your peers...which is a better metric over time vs stats.

I really don't mean to offend you when I say this, but that is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

No offense taken, but please explain.

I understand that MVPs are chosen in a vote against their peers, but that doesn't mean the best player always wins. It means that the "most valuable" player does. Maybe I'm putting more stock into the literal meaning of the award (I always have for any sport when a clear cut "best" doesn't separate themselves from the pack), but I don't think the number of MVPs won by a player automatically makes them the best of their position of all-time.

I mean, Mark Moseley won an MVP in the 80s, but I bet you can't guess what position he played, let alone for what team.

Bleeding Blue · Post #239 » by **Bleeding Blue** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:52 pm

Im getting the feeling the Pats are still a little upset about losing in the playoffs last year and Brady is prob pissed about losing his record. RIP Ravens.

NeedsMoreCheese · Post #240 » by **NeedsMoreCheese** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:53 pm

studcrackers wrote:also i think it's dumb that defensive holding's an automatic 1st down.

Theres probably 50 rules in that convoluted rule book that could be changed imo