Dak Prescott thread

[Micah Prescott]

I would do the math but I don't care enough.

I'll say it might be off set by the fact the Eagles have a bad defense now...possible I am wrong but I know that it was pointed out all over social media when we were playing those scrub offenses.

[Mr B]

We need a better defense. Im sorry but our offense and QB put up points. We have the #2 scorong offense in the NFL. Our QB has thrown more TDs than any other QB. Now we need a defense that can hold teams low. But Id probably go BPA, the same strategy most teams do. If there is an elite RB at pur spot go with it.

It sure AF beats drafting a QB year after year until we finally find one that throws even MORE TDs than this.

I mean the Ravens just gave Lamar Jackson the biggest contract ever. How does that effect what are they targeting?

I understand that you think Dak is the man and that the offense is more than fine. I’m just curious on what you think of the rest of the team and where you think the weaknesses are (and how to fix them).

I agree with taking the best player available in the draft even if that player is a RB.

They NEED to find a way to stop the run though. Maxi was a bust this year but I have faith that he will improve in his 2nd season. He needs to get stronger. Getting Hankins back helps but this team would be better if Hankins was a backup.

Also they desperately need a consistent (and healthy) off ball LB. A really good sideline to sideline sure tackler.

Are we on the same page here? lol

What I think we might have found out oddly enough is that Mazi wasn't even needed that badly. Osa Odighizuwa is actually a top DT , elite pass rushing DT, and Hankins is good run stopper. I think that they both made big strides this season. Mazi was kind of a wasted pick unfortunately. He adds depth I suppose but it isn't great depth. He is a downgrade in run support in comparison to Hankins.

And yes, we need better tackling from LB.

I wouldn’t say we are on the same page because I still feel Dak is the problem. I am aware though that he puts up great stats and there is a better chance that he’s resigned than there is that he’s let go.

So with that in mind they are going to need to seriously upgrade in some areas. That starts with fixing the run defense. How do they do that though is the question?

By resigning Dak his cap hit should decrease significantly. Both Micah’s and CeeDee’s cap hit will also increase though. I know you want to get rid of Steele but he has a huge dead cap number so they’re married to him for at least 1 more season. Pollard will obviously be gone. Demarcus Lawrence has been great but he has a $20M cap hit next season so there’s a chance they cut him if he doesn’t agree to a pay cut.

[Mr B]

Makes me totally sick to my stomach. Looks like the Cowboys want to continue down a losing path. To me it means I will have to brace myself for another 5 years of failure and coming up short, with no chance of getting to a Super Bowl. If the Cowboys take this route, it will come back to haunt them in very due time.

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This is also accurate…

[Micah Prescott]

I understand that you think Dak is the man and that the offense is more than fine. I’m just curious on what you think of the rest of the team and where you think the weaknesses are (and how to fix them).

I agree with taking the best player available in the draft even if that player is a RB.

They NEED to find a way to stop the run though. Maxi was a bust this year but I have faith that he will improve in his 2nd season. He needs to get stronger. Getting Hankins back helps but this team would be better if Hankins was a backup.

Also they desperately need a consistent (and healthy) off ball LB. A really good sideline to sideline sure tackler.

Are we on the same page here? lol

What I think we might have found out oddly enough is that Mazi wasn't even needed that badly. Osa Odighizuwa is actually a top DT , elite pass rushing DT, and Hankins is good run stopper. I think that they both made big strides this season. Mazi was kind of a wasted pick unfortunately. He adds depth I suppose but it isn't great depth. He is a downgrade in run support in comparison to Hankins.

And yes, we need better tackling from LB.

I wouldn’t say we are on the same page because I still feel Dak is the problem. I am aware though that he puts up great stats and there is a better chance that he’s resigned than there is that he’s let go.

So with that in mind they are going to need to seriously upgrade in some areas. That starts with fixing the run defense. How do they do that though is the question?

By resigning Dak his cap hit should decrease significantly. Both Micah’s and CeeDee’s cap hit will also increase though. I know you want to get rid of Steele but he has a huge dead cap number so they’re married to him for at least 1 more season. Pollard will obviously be gone. Demarcus Lawrence has been great but he has a $20M cap hit next season so there’s a chance they cut him if he doesn’t agree to a pay cut.

When Dak is resigned the Cowboy fans that aren't on board need to be shown Terrence Steele's contract. He is quite possible the worst tackle in the entire NFL and we gave him a 5 year $86m deal. Not many are raging over it because it isn't in people's faces like Dak's contract will be, which will be over-analyzed to hell and back by everyone.

We need to have a defensive draft like the Eagles just had, I mean I say that while it's being pointed out that the Eagle's defense sucks, but they have secondary issues. Mostly we need LBs.

Losing Lawrence would really hurt, I really hope we don't have to do that.

[Micah Prescott]

Somewhat unrelated to Dak but QB money is general is getting more and more insane and I do wonder if and when it ever levels out. I suppose when the league loses interest and revenue, which maybe never given expansion to Europe and other places will probably continue to gain traction.

I can remember when Rodgers got the first $100m contract, it was a big deal....now we are probably just 5 years away from seeing $100m/per....we will eventually see the first $billion contract.

60-70 years ago there were NFL players working 2 jobs smoking cigarettes on the sideline...ask BJJ

[Mariner]

Are we on the same page here? lol

What I think we might have found out oddly enough is that Mazi wasn't even needed that badly. Osa Odighizuwa is actually a top DT , elite pass rushing DT, and Hankins is good run stopper. I think that they both made big strides this season. Mazi was kind of a wasted pick unfortunately. He adds depth I suppose but it isn't great depth. He is a downgrade in run support in comparison to Hankins.

And yes, we need better tackling from LB.

I wouldn’t say we are on the same page because I still feel Dak is the problem. I am aware though that he puts up great stats and there is a better chance that he’s resigned than there is that he’s let go.

So with that in mind they are going to need to seriously upgrade in some areas. That starts with fixing the run defense. How do they do that though is the question?

By resigning Dak his cap hit should decrease significantly. Both Micah’s and CeeDee’s cap hit will also increase though. I know you want to get rid of Steele but he has a huge dead cap number so they’re married to him for at least 1 more season. Pollard will obviously be gone. Demarcus Lawrence has been great but he has a $20M cap hit next season so there’s a chance they cut him if he doesn’t agree to a pay cut.

When Dak is resigned the Cowboy fans that aren't on board need to be shown Terrence Steele's contract. He is quite possible the worst tackle in the entire NFL and we gave him a 5 year $86m deal. Not many are raging over it because it isn't in people's faces like Dak's contract will be, which will be over-analyzed to hell and back by everyone.

We need to have a defensive draft like the Eagles just had, I mean I say that while it's being pointed out that the Eagle's defense sucks, but they have secondary issues. Mostly we need LBs.

Losing Lawrence would really hurt, I really hope we don't have to do that.

The cowboys need to draft Oline!
Tyron is done. Martin is getting older. Center is a free agent.

[Micah Prescott]

I wouldn’t say we are on the same page because I still feel Dak is the problem. I am aware though that he puts up great stats and there is a better chance that he’s resigned than there is that he’s let go.

So with that in mind they are going to need to seriously upgrade in some areas. That starts with fixing the run defense. How do they do that though is the question?

By resigning Dak his cap hit should decrease significantly. Both Micah’s and CeeDee’s cap hit will also increase though. I know you want to get rid of Steele but he has a huge dead cap number so they’re married to him for at least 1 more season. Pollard will obviously be gone. Demarcus Lawrence has been great but he has a $20M cap hit next season so there’s a chance they cut him if he doesn’t agree to a pay cut.

When Dak is resigned the Cowboy fans that aren't on board need to be shown Terrence Steele's contract. He is quite possible the worst tackle in the entire NFL and we gave him a 5 year $86m deal. Not many are raging over it because it isn't in people's faces like Dak's contract will be, which will be over-analyzed to hell and back by everyone.

We need to have a defensive draft like the Eagles just had, I mean I say that while it's being pointed out that the Eagle's defense sucks, but they have secondary issues. Mostly we need LBs.

Losing Lawrence would really hurt, I really hope we don't have to do that.

The cowboys need to draft Oline!
Tyron is done. Martin is getting older. Center is a free agent.

Tyron Smith was actually amazing this season, that said I have no idea what their plans with him will be. That will be interesting.

[Mariner]

When Dak is resigned the Cowboy fans that aren't on board need to be shown Terrence Steele's contract. He is quite possible the worst tackle in the entire NFL and we gave him a 5 year $86m deal. Not many are raging over it because it isn't in people's faces like Dak's contract will be, which will be over-analyzed to hell and back by everyone.

We need to have a defensive draft like the Eagles just had, I mean I say that while it's being pointed out that the Eagle's defense sucks, but they have secondary issues. Mostly we need LBs.

Losing Lawrence would really hurt, I really hope we don't have to do that.

The cowboys need to draft Oline!
Tyron is done. Martin is getting older. Center is a free agent.

Tyron Smith was actually amazing this season, that said I have no idea what their plans with him will be. That will be interesting.

He’s good but can’t be counted on. We need to get younger on the Oline.

[Mr B]

I wouldn’t say we are on the same page because I still feel Dak is the problem. I am aware though that he puts up great stats and there is a better chance that he’s resigned than there is that he’s let go.

So with that in mind they are going to need to seriously upgrade in some areas. That starts with fixing the run defense. How do they do that though is the question?

By resigning Dak his cap hit should decrease significantly. Both Micah’s and CeeDee’s cap hit will also increase though. I know you want to get rid of Steele but he has a huge dead cap number so they’re married to him for at least 1 more season. Pollard will obviously be gone. Demarcus Lawrence has been great but he has a $20M cap hit next season so there’s a chance they cut him if he doesn’t agree to a pay cut.

When Dak is resigned the Cowboy fans that aren't on board need to be shown Terrence Steele's contract. He is quite possible the worst tackle in the entire NFL and we gave him a 5 year $86m deal. Not many are raging over it because it isn't in people's faces like Dak's contract will be, which will be over-analyzed to hell and back by everyone.

We need to have a defensive draft like the Eagles just had, I mean I say that while it's being pointed out that the Eagle's defense sucks, but they have secondary issues. Mostly we need LBs.

Losing Lawrence would really hurt, I really hope we don't have to do that.

The cowboys need to draft Oline!
Tyron is done. Martin is getting older. Center is a free agent.

I also agree with this. I mentioned in the Cowboys forum a couple weeks ago that I feel that this team needs an upgrade at Center. The OL was at its best when they had Travis Fredrick. With their 2nd round pick they should have a shot at the best Center in the draft in Jackson Powers-Johnson out of Oregon.

[bluejerseyjinx]

So the 3 interceptions and fumble by the jets offense had no impact on the cowboys having more opportunities to score? Lol

So in your estimation offense and defense are individual entities free of benefit from their counterparts and dak benefits little from the defense (as you say) taking advantage of weak offenses?

It is EASIER for the Dallas Defense to benefit from bad QB opponents than it is for Dak.

We've played a lot of bad QBs....but not necessarily bad defensive teams...Jets great example

Yet the Dallas offense is out performing the defense.

And it's the defense that gives up a gazillion points vs teams like the 49ers and Bills

If that’s the case why were the 49ers and bills games blowouts and not shootouts?

Funny how Micah avoided giving you an answer here.

[bluejerseyjinx]

You have the poorest comprehension I have ever seen.

I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT DAK
I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT DAK
It would be nice if the cowboys had a different QB next year.
But as cowboys fans we should be cheering for him this year.

So what the hell are your thoughts moving forward with all things Cowboys? Don't leave anything out. How do we reach the Super bowl?

Moving forward I agree with what you have been saying.
I’m a bigger cowboy fan than my annoyance with Dak.
I will always cheer for my team to win a playoff game.
In the off-season I will be cheering for change.

So what will be the changes you will be looking for?

[bluejerseyjinx]

Nothing wrong with wanting to get rid of him and starting fresh.
But it’s wrong to not cheer for him this year.

That is the difference between the old guard Cowboy fans and the new generation cowboy fans. Its Super bowl or bust for us. You and Micah are just happy making the playoffs, getting an early boot and getting a participation trophy or something. Gets old after 28 years with no improvement and not being able to jump over the last hurdle into elite territory.

You’re missing the point. I have no issue with you wanting to get rid of Dak. Read that again.
But seeing as he’s here this year we should be cheering for him. Cheering against him now is just wrong.

I made my feeling well know 3 years ago. I wanted to move on from him back then. 3 years later I have not been proven I have been wrong about him. I'm not rooting for a guy I do not like nor a guy after 8 years, that I am convinced is good enough, talented enough or smart enough to get us in elite status. Making the playoffs every 2 of 3 years with a one and done doesn't work for me.

[Mariner]

So what the hell are your thoughts moving forward with all things Cowboys? Don't leave anything out. How do we reach the Super bowl?

Moving forward I agree with what you have been saying.
I’m a bigger cowboy fan than my annoyance with Dak.
I will always cheer for my team to win a playoff game.
In the off-season I will be cheering for change.

So what will be the changes you will be looking for?

I think a change at QB is necessary. A young cheap QB so we can spend money in other needed places.
Unfortunately doing a deep dive into this doesn’t make sense as I’m sure the cowboys will make the mistake of extending Dak.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Moving forward I agree with what you have been saying.
I’m a bigger cowboy fan than my annoyance with Dak.
I will always cheer for my team to win a playoff game.
In the off-season I will be cheering for change.

So what will be the changes you will be looking for?

I think a change at QB is necessary. A young cheap QB so we can spend money in other needed places.
Unfortunately doing a deep dive into this doesn’t make sense as I’m sure the cowboys will make the mistake of extending Dak.

What are the other areas of need in your honest opinion?

[Mariner]

That is the difference between the old guard Cowboy fans and the new generation cowboy fans. Its Super bowl or bust for us. You and Micah are just happy making the playoffs, getting an early boot and getting a participation trophy or something. Gets old after 28 years with no improvement and not being able to jump over the last hurdle into elite territory.

You’re missing the point. I have no issue with you wanting to get rid of Dak. Read that again.
But seeing as he’s here this year we should be cheering for him. Cheering against him now is just wrong.

I made my feeling well know 3 years ago. I wanted to move on from him back then. 3 years later I have not been proven I have been wrong about him. I'm not rooting for a guy I do not like nor a guy after 8 years, that I am convinced is good enough, talented enough or smart enough to get us in elite status. Making the playoffs every 2 of 3 years with a one and done doesn't work for me.

I didn’t like the cowboys first round pick selection.
But I still cheer for him and my team.

[Mariner]

So what will be the changes you will be looking for?

I think a change at QB is necessary. A young cheap QB so we can spend money in other needed places.
Unfortunately doing a deep dive into this doesn’t make sense as I’m sure the cowboys will make the mistake of extending Dak.

What are the other areas of need in your honest opinion?

Draft and get you get younger at Oline.
Tyron is ancient. Not sure how much more we can squeeze out of him. Martin is getting older. Our Center is small and a free agent. We also need a RB that puts fear in the opponents.

[bluejerseyjinx]

You’re missing the point. I have no issue with you wanting to get rid of Dak. Read that again.
But seeing as he’s here this year we should be cheering for him. Cheering against him now is just wrong.

I made my feeling well know 3 years ago. I wanted to move on from him back then. 3 years later I have not been proven I have been wrong about him. I'm not rooting for a guy I do not like nor a guy after 8 years, that I am convinced is good enough, talented enough or smart enough to get us in elite status. Making the playoffs every 2 of 3 years with a one and done doesn't work for me.

I didn’t like the cowboys first round pick selection.
But I still cheer for him and my team.

Both Mazi and Schoomaker are just rookies. I always hold judgement till year two. But I'm not liking what I am seeing so far.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I think a change at QB is necessary. A young cheap QB so we can spend money in other needed places.
Unfortunately doing a deep dive into this doesn’t make sense as I’m sure the cowboys will make the mistake of extending Dak.

What are the other areas of need in your honest opinion?

Draft and get you get younger at Oline.
Tyron is ancient. Not sure how much more we can squeeze out of him. Martin is getting older. Our Center is small and a free agent. We also need a RB that puts fear in the opponents.

I know we currently have 4 starts out on defense. Your thoughts on that side of the ball?

[bluejerseyjinx]

I think a change at QB is necessary. A young cheap QB so we can spend money in other needed places.
Unfortunately doing a deep dive into this doesn’t make sense as I’m sure the cowboys will make the mistake of extending Dak.

What are the other areas of need in your honest opinion?

Draft and get you get younger at Oline.
Tyron is ancient. Not sure how much more we can squeeze out of him. Martin is getting older. Our Center is small and a free agent. We also need a RB that puts fear in the opponents.

OL and RB on that side of the ball. Totally agree.

[last stand]

It is EASIER for the Dallas Defense to benefit from bad QB opponents than it is for Dak.

We've played a lot of bad QBs....but not necessarily bad defensive teams...Jets great example

Yet the Dallas offense is out performing the defense.

And it's the defense that gives up a gazillion points vs teams like the 49ers and Bills

If that’s the case why were the 49ers and bills games blowouts and not shootouts?

Funny how Micah avoided giving you an answer here.

I figured it wouldn’t tbh