2025 NFL Off-Season

[Micah Prescott]

You don't because $10 mil/year is the typical cost of a mediocre veteran; maybe if you're lucky a good player on a 1-year prove-it deal.

Okay, so it is :

Parsons - $47m
Crap Player - $3m
Crap Player - $3m
Crap Player - $3m

or

"Decent Player" $14m
"Decent Player" $14m
"Decent Player" $14m
"Decent Player" $14m


That is basically what the entire Pats Dynasty defense was, just a group of "good" players with no elite studs. Hell that is what your Eagles Defense is.

No, on a good team it would be:

Key Veteran - $40 mil
Decent player on rookie contract - $3
Decent player on rookie contract - $3
Decent player on rookie contract - $3

versus:

Replacement level veteran - $12 mil
Replacement level veteran - $12 mil
Replacement level veteran - $12 mil
Replacement level veteran - $12 mil

Nope it's the second one. Your Eagles just won a ring with defense and the highest paid players were Bryce Huff ($17m/per) and Darius Slay ($14m/per)

[QB_Eagles]

Okay, so it is :

Parsons - $47m
Crap Player - $3m
Crap Player - $3m
Crap Player - $3m

or

"Decent Player" $14m
"Decent Player" $14m
"Decent Player" $14m
"Decent Player" $14m


That is basically what the entire Pats Dynasty defense was, just a group of "good" players with no elite studs. Hell that is what your Eagles Defense is.

No, on a good team it would be:

Key Veteran - $40 mil
Decent player on rookie contract - $3
Decent player on rookie contract - $3
Decent player on rookie contract - $3

versus:

Replacement level veteran - $12 mil
Replacement level veteran - $12 mil
Replacement level veteran - $12 mil
Replacement level veteran - $12 mil

Nope it's the second one. Your Eagles just won a ring with defense and the highest paid players were Bryce Huff ($17m/per) and Darius Slay ($14m/per)

Huff wasn't even a starter in the SB and Slay was above-average but expensive.

The best players on defense were mostly on rookie contracts (Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Milton Williams, Nolan Smith, Quinyon Mitchell, Cooper DeJean, Reed Blankenship), plus Zack Baun, Josh Sweat on a 1-year prove-it deals. CJGC was also solid but too expensive to keep even at $10 mil.

You can't build a good team with Huffs and 34-year old Darius Slays.

[Mr B]

No, on a good team it would be:

Key Veteran - $40 mil
Decent player on rookie contract - $3
Decent player on rookie contract - $3
Decent player on rookie contract - $3

versus:

Replacement level veteran - $12 mil
Replacement level veteran - $12 mil
Replacement level veteran - $12 mil
Replacement level veteran - $12 mil

Nope it's the second one. Your Eagles just won a ring with defense and the highest paid players were Bryce Huff ($17m/per) and Darius Slay ($14m/per)

Huff wasn't even a starter in the SB and Slay was above-average but expensive.

The best players on defense were mostly on rookie contracts (Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Milton Williams, Nolan Smith, Quinyon Mitchell, Cooper DeJean, Reed Blankenship), plus Zack Baun, Josh Sweat on a 1-year prove-it deals. CJGC was also solid but too expensive to keep even at $10 mil.

You can't build a good team with Huffs and 34-year old Darius Slays.

Kind of hard to build a good overall team when 3 players are taking up 1/3 of your cap space.

[Micah Prescott]

No, on a good team it would be:

Key Veteran - $40 mil
Decent player on rookie contract - $3
Decent player on rookie contract - $3
Decent player on rookie contract - $3

versus:

Replacement level veteran - $12 mil
Replacement level veteran - $12 mil
Replacement level veteran - $12 mil
Replacement level veteran - $12 mil

Nope it's the second one. Your Eagles just won a ring with defense and the highest paid players were Bryce Huff ($17m/per) and Darius Slay ($14m/per)

Huff wasn't even a starter in the SB and Slay was above-average but expensive.

The best players on defense were mostly on rookie contracts (Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Milton Williams, Nolan Smith, Quinyon Mitchell, Cooper DeJean, Reed Blankenship), plus Zack Baun, Josh Sweat on a 1-year prove-it deals. CJGC was also solid but too expensive to keep even at $10 mil.

You can't build a good team with Huffs and 34-year old Darius Slays.

Okay but you have no "Key Vet - $40m"

That is what you said a "good team" has.

The Eagles last season were more like the 2nd option. Lots of "replacement level vets" like Huff and Slay

Jalen Carter is your "Micah Parsons" it just isn't contract time for him yet. We will see how the Eagles defense does if you guys give him $50m/per

[Mariner]

Yeah, you usually use it to extend a key player, not use it to sign 4 replacement level players.

I have no idea how it will be applied but it should still be valuable in theory.
Having four extra guys make 12 million instead of league minimum still makes a huge difference.
Maybe it helps them sign Pickens and splurge on one free agent acquisition like LT if Guyton stumbles.
Either way it helps.

Veterans playing on league minimum are a rare thing. I couldn't tell you the last time it happened on the Eagles.

Mediocre guards are making $20 mil/year now, so what do you think $12 mil is going to buy?

The best you can hope for is a player overperforming on a 1-year proof-it deal.

I gave many examples of how the money could be used.
You seem to be harping on one. Depth has always plagued the cowboys. Like Mr B said, giving your cap to 3 guys isn’t a great idea. Sure they could have added a bunch of void years but the cowboys aren’t ready for that. Who knows how the 47 million will be spent but it can’t be dismissed.

[Mr B]

Nope it's the second one. Your Eagles just won a ring with defense and the highest paid players were Bryce Huff ($17m/per) and Darius Slay ($14m/per)

Huff wasn't even a starter in the SB and Slay was above-average but expensive.

The best players on defense were mostly on rookie contracts (Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Milton Williams, Nolan Smith, Quinyon Mitchell, Cooper DeJean, Reed Blankenship), plus Zack Baun, Josh Sweat on a 1-year prove-it deals. CJGC was also solid but too expensive to keep even at $10 mil.

You can't build a good team with Huffs and 34-year old Darius Slays.

Okay but you have no "Key Vet - $40m"

That is what you said a "good team" has.

The Eagles last season were more like the 2nd option. Lots of "replacement level vets" like Huff and Slay

Jalen Carter is your "Micah Parsons" it just isn't contract time for him yet. We will see how the Eagles defense does if you guys give him $50m/per

Jalen Carter is likely looking at $32M per season for his next contract.

[Mr B]

I have no idea how it will be applied but it should still be valuable in theory.
Having four extra guys make 12 million instead of league minimum still makes a huge difference.
Maybe it helps them sign Pickens and splurge on one free agent acquisition like LT if Guyton stumbles.
Either way it helps.

Veterans playing on league minimum are a rare thing. I couldn't tell you the last time it happened on the Eagles.

Mediocre guards are making $20 mil/year now, so what do you think $12 mil is going to buy?

The best you can hope for is a player overperforming on a 1-year proof-it deal.

I gave many examples of how the money could be used.
You seem to be harping on one. Depth has always plagued the cowboys. Like Mr B said, giving your cap to 3 guys isn’t a great idea. Sure they could have added a bunch of void years but the cowboys aren’t ready for that. Who knows how the 47 million will be spent but it can’t be dismissed.

Yea Micah Parsons doesn’t put the Cowboys over the top so it didn’t make much sense to pay him that much.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Veterans playing on league minimum are a rare thing. I couldn't tell you the last time it happened on the Eagles.

Mediocre guards are making $20 mil/year now, so what do you think $12 mil is going to buy?

The best you can hope for is a player overperforming on a 1-year proof-it deal.

I gave many examples of how the money could be used.
You seem to be harping on one. Depth has always plagued the cowboys. Like Mr B said, giving your cap to 3 guys isn’t a great idea. Sure they could have added a bunch of void years but the cowboys aren’t ready for that. Who knows how the 47 million will be spent but it can’t be dismissed.

Yea Micah Parsons doesn’t put the Cowboys over the top so it didn’t make much sense to pay him that much.

But many of us said Dak wasn't the right guy and would never put us over the top of anything and he's the highest paid QB in the league.

[QB_Eagles]

Nope it's the second one. Your Eagles just won a ring with defense and the highest paid players were Bryce Huff ($17m/per) and Darius Slay ($14m/per)

Huff wasn't even a starter in the SB and Slay was above-average but expensive.

The best players on defense were mostly on rookie contracts (Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Milton Williams, Nolan Smith, Quinyon Mitchell, Cooper DeJean, Reed Blankenship), plus Zack Baun, Josh Sweat on a 1-year prove-it deals. CJGC was also solid but too expensive to keep even at $10 mil.

You can't build a good team with Huffs and 34-year old Darius Slays.

Kind of hard to build a good overall team when 3 players are taking up 1/3 of your cap space.

If those three are a Top 5 QB, Top 5 DL, and Top 5 OL, you got no issue.

It's only an issue when you start paying players that much who are 6th-15th best players at their position.

[QB_Eagles]

Nope it's the second one. Your Eagles just won a ring with defense and the highest paid players were Bryce Huff ($17m/per) and Darius Slay ($14m/per)

Huff wasn't even a starter in the SB and Slay was above-average but expensive.

The best players on defense were mostly on rookie contracts (Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Milton Williams, Nolan Smith, Quinyon Mitchell, Cooper DeJean, Reed Blankenship), plus Zack Baun, Josh Sweat on a 1-year prove-it deals. CJGC was also solid but too expensive to keep even at $10 mil.

You can't build a good team with Huffs and 34-year old Darius Slays.

Okay but you have no "Key Vet - $40m"

That is what you said a "good team" has.

The Eagles last season were more like the 2nd option. Lots of "replacement level vets" like Huff and Slay

Jalen Carter is your "Micah Parsons" it just isn't contract time for him yet. We will see how the Eagles defense does if you guys give him $50m/per

The Eagles are paying guys, too, it's not like they're all giving home town discounts.

But Howie has essentially free reign so can plan to a certain year in the future when he resets the cap and spend like crazy until then. It has happened twice since he took back over from Chip Kelly, and the Eagles were really bad those years.

If you only the Cowboys had a GM with the same amount of job security afforded to him by the owner.

[QB_Eagles]

Jalen Carter is likely looking at $32M per season for his next contract.

Good deal compared to what edge rushers are getting for similar impact on the field.

[Mr B]

I gave many examples of how the money could be used.
You seem to be harping on one. Depth has always plagued the cowboys. Like Mr B said, giving your cap to 3 guys isn’t a great idea. Sure they could have added a bunch of void years but the cowboys aren’t ready for that. Who knows how the 47 million will be spent but it can’t be dismissed.

Yea Micah Parsons doesn’t put the Cowboys over the top so it didn’t make much sense to pay him that much.

But many of us said Dak wasn't the right guy and would never put us over the top of anything and he's the highest paid QB in the league.

I agree they shouldn’t have paid him either.

[Mr B]

Huff wasn't even a starter in the SB and Slay was above-average but expensive.

The best players on defense were mostly on rookie contracts (Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Milton Williams, Nolan Smith, Quinyon Mitchell, Cooper DeJean, Reed Blankenship), plus Zack Baun, Josh Sweat on a 1-year prove-it deals. CJGC was also solid but too expensive to keep even at $10 mil.

You can't build a good team with Huffs and 34-year old Darius Slays.

Kind of hard to build a good overall team when 3 players are taking up 1/3 of your cap space.

If those three are a Top 5 QB, Top 5 DL, and Top 5 OL, you got no issue.

It's only an issue when you start paying players that much who are 6th-15th best players at their position.

Cowboys are paying top 10 QB top 2 money. And a top 5 WR top 2 money. It made no sense to pay a 1 dimensional OLB top 1 money. It makes sense for the Packers to do it but not the Cowboys with where they’re at.

[Mr B]

Jalen Carter is likely looking at $32M per season for his next contract.

Good deal compared to what edge rushers are getting for similar impact on the field.

Jalen Carter is not an edge he’s a DT. So he will likely get the largest deal for a DT and right now Chris Jones is the highest paid DT at $31.75M. So I would expect Carter’s contract negotiations to start at $32M.

[QB_Eagles]

Jalen Carter is likely looking at $32M per season for his next contract.

Good deal compared to what edge rushers are getting for similar impact on the field.

Jalen Carter is not an edge he’s a DT. So he will likely get the largest deal for a DT and right now Chris Jones is the highest paid DT at $31.75M. So I would expect Carter’s contract negotiations to start at $32M.

Worth it.

[Cactus Jack]

Yea Micah Parsons doesn’t put the Cowboys over the top so it didn’t make much sense to pay him that much.

What's their record this year?

[Mr B]

Yea Micah Parsons doesn’t put the Cowboys over the top so it didn’t make much sense to pay him that much.

What's their record this year?

I’m going to say 7-10 however I’m having a hard time finding 7 wins on their schedule.

[Jaydubb]

Good deal compared to what edge rushers are getting for similar impact on the field.

Jalen Carter is not an edge he’s a DT. So he will likely get the largest deal for a DT and right now Chris Jones is the highest paid DT at $31.75M. So I would expect Carter’s contract negotiations to start at $32M.

Worth it.

Yeah it’ll be worth it and howie will not wait around to do it either, he will give Carter an extension first thing next offseason.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Yea Micah Parsons doesn’t put the Cowboys over the top so it didn’t make much sense to pay him that much.

What's their record this year?

I’m going to say 7-10 however I’m having a hard time finding 7 wins on their schedule.

I'm having a hard time finding more than 5 wins. That's probably why.

[Mr B]

Cooper lost the desire to play about a year before leaving Dallas.

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