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Re: Draft thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:05 pm
by Mr B
DOT wrote:Did a mock draft for fun, threw a couple curveballs in for spice (no trades cause pff won't let you make trades unless you pay them):

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Interesting! Micheal Penix to the Cowboys at 24. I’m not sure Penix gets out of the top 10 though. Rumors are he could now go in the top 10.

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:06 pm
by Mr B
bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Mr B wrote:What do you guys think about Zach Frazier? I’ve been on record as saying I would love for the Cowboys to get Jackson Powers-Johnson however Zach Frazier is just as good as JPJ in some areas. 24 might be too high to draft him but I’m not sure he makes it to pick 56.

https://youtu.be/fcRLaOUn0Qo?si=uKPMZt4OjfHOnv_R

If Washington offered their 34 and 40th pick for our 24th pick, would you do it?

I don’t know that I would want to completely drop out of the 1st round. I would consider it though depending on who’s still on the board.

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:52 pm
by bluejerseyjinx
bluejerseyjinx wrote:Now that the Patriots have their #3 pick up for sale, I wonder if the Vikings have them on speed dial.

Or perhaps the Chargers? I see the Chargers and Patriots both trading down in this draft.

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:28 pm
by bluejerseyjinx
Mr B wrote:What do you guys think about Zach Frazier? I’ve been on record as saying I would love for the Cowboys to get Jackson Powers-Johnson however Zach Frazier is just as good as JPJ in some areas. 24 might be too high to draft him but I’m not sure he makes it to pick 56.

https://youtu.be/fcRLaOUn0Qo?si=uKPMZt4OjfHOnv_R

I think we can get him in round 3. I really like Fraiser. I'm seeing a few drafts having us taking this kid out of Michigan with our first pick, Junior Colson. Not sure about that one.

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:47 pm
by Mr B
bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Mr B wrote:What do you guys think about Zach Frazier? I’ve been on record as saying I would love for the Cowboys to get Jackson Powers-Johnson however Zach Frazier is just as good as JPJ in some areas. 24 might be too high to draft him but I’m not sure he makes it to pick 56.

https://youtu.be/fcRLaOUn0Qo?si=uKPMZt4OjfHOnv_R

I think we can get him in round 3. I really like Fraiser. I'm seeing a few drafts having us taking this kid out of Michigan with our first pick, Junior Colson. Not sure about that one.

Junior Colson is the exact kind of LB Dallas is looking for. He’s big and fast and can cover. He’s also a very solid tackler. The only problem with him his he played at Michigan. Some Cowboys fans are gun shy about drafting another Michigan player high in the draft. He’d actually be a perfect fit though.

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:20 pm
by Charlesareed
bluejerseyjinx wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:Now that the Patriots have their #3 pick up for sale, I wonder if the Vikings have them on speed dial.

Or perhaps the Chargers? I see the Chargers and Patriots both trading down in this draft.



Both patriots & chargers are screwing around should’ve been traded their picks to minny for the 11 & 23 picks in this draft because if the giants or cardinals trade back they are screwed

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:45 am
by GoRapstheoriginal
These damn news headlines with Raiders drafting Penix at 13 better be dead wrong at #13 that would be a terrible reach!
And that's a consensus/majority! I want that OL/tackle dood at that pick.

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:32 am
by Cactus Jack
GoRapstheoriginal wrote:These damn news headlines with Raiders drafting Penix at 13 better be dead wrong at #13 that would be a terrible reach!
And that's a consensus/majority! I want that OL/tackle dood at that pick.

Raps, who do you want them to draft?

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:37 am
by GoRapstheoriginal
Cactus Jack wrote:
GoRapstheoriginal wrote:These damn news headlines with Raiders drafting Penix at 13 better be dead wrong at #13 that would be a terrible reach!
And that's a consensus/majority! I want that OL/tackle dood at that pick.

Raps, who do you want them to draft?

Troy Fautanu OT this guy. Strengthen the OL make it an easier job for the QBs & the RBs imo.

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:45 am
by Cactus Jack
GoRapstheoriginal wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Raps, who do you want them to draft?

Troy Fautanu OT this guy. Strengthen the OL make it an easier job for the QBs & the RBs imo.

That would be a great pick. My Hawks also want him. But some team like the Raiders will scoop him up for sure.

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:43 pm
by bluejerseyjinx
Cactus Jack wrote:
GoRapstheoriginal wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Raps, who do you want them to draft?

Troy Fautanu OT this guy. Strengthen the OL make it an easier job for the QBs & the RBs imo.

That would be a great pick. My Hawks also want him. But some team like the Raiders will scoop him up for sure.

I think the Raiders will trade their pick+ to the Cowboys for Dak Prescott. Blockbuster trade on draft night. :wink: :D :wizard:

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:14 pm
by wco81
Cowboys fans: Dak ain't ****.

Also Cowboys fans: Give us your First Round pick for Dak!

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:23 pm
by bluejerseyjinx
Why? You would even whine about that. :talkhand:

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:47 pm
by Mr B
wco81 wrote:Cowboys fans: Dak ain't ****.

Also Cowboys fans: Give us your First Round pick for Dak!

You just don’t understand our plight. Dak is a very good regular season QB. He’s not a winner though. Cowboys fans know this through and through (well most of do) which is why most of us want to move on from Dak. That doesn’t mean he’s not a good QB though. He made 2nd team All Pro and puts up outstanding regular season numbers.

There was another QB this off season that is almost 10 years older than Dak and puts up similar numbers and got seriously paid. So if the value for Kirk Cousins is that high and he’s past his prime what would a 28 year old version of Kirk Cousins command in a trade? At least two 1sts if you ask the experts.

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:02 pm
by wco81
We will see but it's one thing to pay Dak $60 million a year next year.

It's another to give up a lot of draft assets to acquire him instead of waiting a year.

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:21 pm
by bluejerseyjinx
I've been the only Cowboy fan in here and in the Cowboy forum that wanted to get rid of Dak 3 years ago. Dak is not worth 60 mill a year, no way. But there are a few dumb organizations out there that might be willing to take Dak off our hands so that we might get a little something for him before he walks away or is let go. I just want him out of Dallas. I'll take whatever we can get for him at this point. Wish it came as a package deal with McCarthy.

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:01 pm
by Cactus Jack
Mr B wrote:So if the value for Kirk Cousins is that high and he’s past his prime what would a 28 year old version of Kirk Cousins command in a trade?

Dak is 30. He'll turn 31 this Summer. His value now is likely at its peak.

Denver gave up two 1st's & two 2nd's for Russ. You'd probably get a similar type of return for Dak if you dealt him this offseason.

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:43 pm
by wco81
Cactus Jack wrote:
Mr B wrote:So if the value for Kirk Cousins is that high and he’s past his prime what would a 28 year old version of Kirk Cousins command in a trade?

Dak is 30. He'll turn 31 this Summer. His value now is likely at its peak.

Denver gave up two 1st's & two 2nd's for Russ. You'd probably get a similar type of return for Dak if you dealt him this offseason.



That trade will make teams gun shy about making a similar trade.

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:06 pm
by Mr B
wco81 wrote:We will see but it's one thing to pay Dak $60 million a year next year.

It's another to give up a lot of draft assets to acquire him instead of waiting a year.

True, no teams wants to give up assets. Any team trading for Dak though would be doing it to have first negotiating rights with his agent. They can actually start talking about an extension with him without it being tampering.

Re: Draft thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:08 pm
by Mr B
Cactus Jack wrote:
Mr B wrote:So if the value for Kirk Cousins is that high and he’s past his prime what would a 28 year old version of Kirk Cousins command in a trade?

Dak is 30. He'll turn 31 this Summer. His value now is likely at its peak.

Denver gave up two 1st's & two 2nd's for Russ. You'd probably get a similar type of return for Dak if you dealt him this offseason.

My bad, his 30 not 28. But you’re right, he is at the peak of his value right now. That’s why it would be a good idea to move him this off season (if he’s willing to waive the NTC).