Week 7 Chat Thread

[QB_Eagles]

Are the Chargers better without Jim Harbaugh?

Just found out the Chargers lost because of Jalen Reagor.

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I know that feeling.

[bwgood77]

Are the Chargers better without Jim Harbaugh?

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No, he's BY FAR the best coach they've had in years, maybe ever. The only guys that could potentially get into the convo with him going back are Schottenheimer, Bobby Ross and of course Don (Air) Coryell, but he more just put a super exciting product on the field than was a great overall coach.

Harbaugh took the 28th defense and turned them into the top scoring defense, and like top 5-7 in yards per game allowed.

They are just so different. Defense, low scoring, run the ball, etc. The one game Herbert passes for 350 they lose. But they had some misfortunes.

You always had that gut feeling they would lose every game and blow it for years before this year. This year feels completely different. Last night had a tiny bit of that feeling back, but not really.

They just failed to get into the end zone (but I like how Harbaugh always takes the points because they nearly won anyway), dropped a basic td pass which turned into a touchback, and then on the Cards last drive, had a bad 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct call when the Chargers were likely going to stop them. It was a pretty questionable call too.

They also lost a load of offensive talent, but the main person they are missing is Keenan Allen. And their receiving corp is banged up. First round pick Quentin Johnston who looked like a bust last year but has broken out this year was out so they couldn't stretch the field, as well as another one of their better receivers. Bosa and Asante Samuel Jr are both out too which are big losses.

They need to protect Herbert better though. I don't understand why their OL struggled so much with the Cards pass rush.

It was just a joke because they won last week without him and lost this week with him.

Ahhhh....He was only out for a few minutes last week.

[bwgood77]

Just found out the Chargers lost because of Jalen Reagor.

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I know that feeling.

I hadn't seen him before. He looks like he could have some talent, which the Chargers could use at WR, but I guess he has had a fumbling problem?

[QB_Eagles]

I hadn't seen him before. He looks like he could have some talent, which the Chargers could use at WR, but I guess he has had a fumbling problem?

Drops, too. I remember an Eagles game where he dropped game-winning TDs in back-to-back plays.

He's got the physical traits but he's just too prone to making mistakes.

[Micah Prescott]

Better than Dak obviously and only if I had to pay 60 mil per to one of them. Not sure why anyone not know Dak is just a solid regular season gamer like other athletes that doesn't show up when it matters.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/brock-purdy-playoff-record

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/dak-prescott-playoff-career-win-loss-record

My point is neither has won crap and after this season Purdy’s contract will surpass Dak’s as far as most expensive. Both are playoff losers making more than $60M per season, again Purdy will be after the season.

Im guessing reading comprehension has always been weak with you unless it was some feeble attempt to start drama with me.

Both of you are flawed in judging who is better going on nothing but playoff wins and loses.

Imagine if college scouts graded QBs like this....where Mahomes was 13-19 with Texas Tech.

CMC comes back, and the 49ers are suddenly great again, and now that means Purdy is a better QB than before?

[WentzerWuver]

My point is neither has won crap and after this season Purdy’s contract will surpass Dak’s as far as most expensive. Both are playoff losers making more than $60M per season, again Purdy will be after the season.

Im guessing reading comprehension has always been weak with you unless it was some feeble attempt to start drama with me.

Both of you are flawed in judging who is better going on nothing but playoff wins and loses.

Imagine if college scouts graded QBs like this....where Mahomes was 13-19 with Texas Tech.

CMC comes back, and the 49ers are suddenly great again, and now that means Purdy is a better QB than before?

That's obvious as my initial repy was to pay Purdy his bag rather than trading for Dak, who already got his. It has to be a joke for any serious 49ers fan to even consider.

[Micah Prescott]

Im guessing reading comprehension has always been weak with you unless it was some feeble attempt to start drama with me.

Both of you are flawed in judging who is better going on nothing but playoff wins and loses.

Imagine if college scouts graded QBs like this....where Mahomes was 13-19 with Texas Tech.

CMC comes back, and the 49ers are suddenly great again, and now that means Purdy is a better QB than before?

That's obvious as my initial repy was to pay Purdy his bag rather than trading for Dak, who already got his. It has to be a joke for any serious 49ers fan to even consider.

The trade comment was made in jest out of frustration, so yeah.

[Mr B]

Better than Dak obviously and only if I had to pay 60 mil per to one of them. Not sure why anyone not know Dak is just a solid regular season gamer like other athletes that doesn't show up when it matters.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/brock-purdy-playoff-record

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/dak-prescott-playoff-career-win-loss-record

My point is neither has won crap and after this season Purdy’s contract will surpass Dak’s as far as most expensive. Both are playoff losers making more than $60M per season, again Purdy will be after the season.

Im guessing reading comprehension has always been weak with you unless it was some feeble attempt to start drama with me.

Drama? You’re praising Purdy while degrading Dak. I’m just saying neither is better than the other. Both will soon have $60M contracts and no rings. Dak choke in the playoffs and so has Purdy. If that infuriates you or creates drama with you then maybe you should get another hobby. All I was doing was pointing out an obvious fact.

[Mr B]

My point is neither has won crap and after this season Purdy’s contract will surpass Dak’s as far as most expensive. Both are playoff losers making more than $60M per season, again Purdy will be after the season.

Im guessing reading comprehension has always been weak with you unless it was some feeble attempt to start drama with me.

Both of you are flawed in judging who is better going on nothing but playoff wins and loses.

Imagine if college scouts graded QBs like this....where Mahomes was 13-19 with Texas Tech.

CMC comes back, and the 49ers are suddenly great again, and now that means Purdy is a better QB than before?

College QB’s aren’t making $60M per season.

[Micah Prescott]

Im guessing reading comprehension has always been weak with you unless it was some feeble attempt to start drama with me.

Both of you are flawed in judging who is better going on nothing but playoff wins and loses.

Imagine if college scouts graded QBs like this....where Mahomes was 13-19 with Texas Tech.

CMC comes back, and the 49ers are suddenly great again, and now that means Purdy is a better QB than before?

College QB’s aren’t making $60M per season.

That has absolutely nothing to do with using logical methods of grading skill and talent.

You think that if college QBs were being paid big money that suddenly NFL scouts would use wins and losses to grade them?

[Mr B]

Both of you are flawed in judging who is better going on nothing but playoff wins and loses.

Imagine if college scouts graded QBs like this....where Mahomes was 13-19 with Texas Tech.

CMC comes back, and the 49ers are suddenly great again, and now that means Purdy is a better QB than before?

College QB’s aren’t making $60M per season.

That has absolutely nothing to do with using logical methods of grading skill and talent.

You think that if college QBs were being paid big money that suddenly NFL scouts would use wins and losses to grade them?

Are you saying that a QB shouldn’t be expected to win at the highest level when they are the highest paid QB in the NFL?

[RaoulDuke79]

What a dumbass...but hey, good luck to ya, Tua.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/1g95r10/dolphins_qb_tua_tagovailoa_says_he_wont_wear_a/?utm_source=embedv2&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_content=whitespace

[Micah Prescott]

College QB’s aren’t making $60M per season.

That has absolutely nothing to do with using logical methods of grading skill and talent.

You think that if college QBs were being paid big money that suddenly NFL scouts would use wins and losses to grade them?

Are you saying that a QB shouldn’t be expected to win at the highest level when they are the highest paid QB in the NFL?

They should be expected to play well as an individual. That is all any athlete can be asked to do. There is no QB that can "win" all by themselves. They require blockers to block, WRs to get open and catch, runners to run, coaches to call good plays, and a defense that doesn't give up 50 points. Even if you are going by how much money individuals make then by your own theory the defense is more important than the QB because even with the highest paid QB makes less than their entire defense on average.

Going by CASH MONEY (which is dumb) then if Dak makes 20% of the cap he is only 20% responsible for wins and losses. The other 80% would be the other 52 players. Are you saying those players don't mean anything? It's all on the QB?

[bluejerseyjinx]

College QB’s aren’t making $60M per season.

That has absolutely nothing to do with using logical methods of grading skill and talent.

You think that if college QBs were being paid big money that suddenly NFL scouts would use wins and losses to grade them?

Are you saying that a QB shouldn’t be expected to win at the highest level when they are the highest paid QB in the NFL?

I totally agree with you 100%, but arguing this point with Micah is like peeing in the wind. Dak is great. Nothing is his fault. He thinks the Cowboys can win with Dumb Dak still.

[Mr B]

That has absolutely nothing to do with using logical methods of grading skill and talent.

You think that if college QBs were being paid big money that suddenly NFL scouts would use wins and losses to grade them?

Are you saying that a QB shouldn’t be expected to win at the highest level when they are the highest paid QB in the NFL?

They should be expected to play well as an individual. That is all any athlete can be asked to do. There is no QB that can "win" all by themselves. They require blockers to block, WRs to get open and catch, runners to run, coaches to call good plays, and a defense that doesn't give up 50 points. Even if you are going by how much money individuals make then by your own theory the defense is more important than the QB because even with the highest paid QB makes less than their entire defense on average.

Going by CASH MONEY (which is dumb) then if Dak makes 20% of the cap he is only 20% responsible for wins and losses. The other 80% would be the other 52 players. Are you saying those players don't mean anything? It's all on the QB?

So you’re saying that teams should not expect a QB to be a leader and elevate the play of the players around him? So if that’s true and we should only expect QB’s to try hard as an individual why are teams paying QB’s so much? Why is their pay scale so much higher than any other position? I mean based on what you’re saying the expectations for Patrick Mahomes should be the same for someone like Mac Jones. As long as they try hard they’re winners.

[Micah Prescott]

Are you saying that a QB shouldn’t be expected to win at the highest level when they are the highest paid QB in the NFL?

They should be expected to play well as an individual. That is all any athlete can be asked to do. There is no QB that can "win" all by themselves. They require blockers to block, WRs to get open and catch, runners to run, coaches to call good plays, and a defense that doesn't give up 50 points. Even if you are going by how much money individuals make then by your own theory the defense is more important than the QB because even with the highest paid QB makes less than their entire defense on average.

Going by CASH MONEY (which is dumb) then if Dak makes 20% of the cap he is only 20% responsible for wins and losses. The other 80% would be the other 52 players. Are you saying those players don't mean anything? It's all on the QB?

So you’re saying that teams should not expect a QB to be a leader and elevate the play of the players around him? So if that’s true and we should only expect QB’s to try hard as an individual why are teams paying QB’s so much? Why is their pay scale so much higher than any other position? I mean based on what you’re saying the expectations for Patrick Mahomes should be the same for someone like Mac Jones. As long as they try hard they’re winners.

I didn't say that no. I am saying grading QBs by wins and losses is stupid.

Nick Foles has a post season record of 4-2, is he better than Marino? It's a dumb way to grade QBs because they don't have any control over the rest of the team.

Grading by salary is also stupid. EVERY QB IS EXPECTED TO GIVE IT THEIR ALL NO MATTER WHAT THIER PAY IS. Brock Purdy isn't going to be excused this year because he makes less money. There is no NFL QB who gets a free pass to suck, not even backups.

[El Turco]

Ultimate team sport turned into tennis itt

[QB_Eagles]

@Mr B

Better QB: Dan Marino or Nick Foles?

https://www.profootballhof.com/news/2013/11/news-foles-history-noted-in-canton/

[Mr B]

@Mr B

Better QB: Dan Marino or Nick Foles?

https://www.profootballhof.com/news/2013/11/news-foles-history-noted-in-canton/

Give me the SB winner 10 times out of 10 over the guy that just collects stats.

[QB_Eagles]

Return of Belichick?

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