State Of Cowboys Union; Today And The last 30 years. Where do the Cowboys have it all wrong and where is it going?

[bluejerseyjinx]

Okay so NOW it's all about rings?

And you take Jerry's rings away from him. They aren't his they are Jimmy's rings right?

If it wasn't for Jimmy, Jerry would have no rings. This is where the original old guard Cowboy fans disagree with the younger generations.

This Eagles fan agrees, too.

And Jerry has been trying to prove us wrong since then. And will die trying.

[Mariner]

First off, the entire reason Jimmy was there is because JERRRY JONES fired Tom Landry and hired him.

If McCarthy's failures just funnel to Jerry Jones, then Jimmy's success should do the same thing.

Any new owner would have fired Landry.

Kinda weird that you give Jerry credit for that, when there was luck involved in him becoming the owner as well.

I will say though that Jerry is a marketing genius. He just sucks as a GM.

This is wrong.
There was a lot of anger when Landry was fired.
And Jerry deserves credit for hiring Jimmy. It wasn’t popular at that time to hire a college coach.

[Micah Prescott]

Once you win a ring it doesn't matter. Know one can ever take it away from you for whatever reason.

Okay so NOW it's all about rings?

And you take Jerry's rings away from him. They aren't his they are Jimmy's rings right?

If it wasn't for Jimmy, Jerry would have no rings. This is where the original old guard Cowboy fans disagree with the younger generations.

and vice-versa obviously

I'll tell you this too, looking at Jimmy through the angle of "Jimmy was put in a very fortunate position" is much more objective than the angle of "Jimmy was a football God who would have won 3 rings under any circumstance"

[Micah Prescott]

If it wasn't for Jimmy, Jerry would have no rings. This is where the original old guard Cowboy fans disagree with the younger generations.

This Eagles fan agrees, too.

And Jerry has been trying to prove us wrong since then. And will die trying.

He already did it.




two seasons removed from Jimmy with key players Larry Allen and Deion Sanders added

[Mr B]

Jimmy was HELLA LUCKY that the Vikings made that trade. That entire dynasty couldn't have happened without the Hershall Walker trade.


If it was all Jimmy like you suggest? Miami would ahve 3 rings

No, it was not luck. What was sneaky about the trade is that the players coming from the Vikings were conditional and would turn into draft picks if they got cut by the Cowboys. So Jimmy cut almost all of them and drafted players he knew very well from coaching college.

He didn't have that advantage later with the Dolphins.

I remember LB Jesse Solomon being part of that trade. He held out after the season and I remember he and Jimmy Johnson getting into it. He did not want to play for Dallas. He bounced around the NFL for few more years!

[Cactus Jack]

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[Mariner]

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That injury report is just the tip of the iceberg.

[Micah Prescott]

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That injury report is just the tip of the iceberg.

I mean it's a welcome report at this point of the season. Top-3 draft pick is coming.

For all the crap this franchise has been getting "over the last 30 years" we have not seen a pick like this one since Aikman.

[Micah Prescott]

Playing the Giants on Thanksgiving which is actually winnable. I think I might be rooting for the Giants, although if Dallas does win it would make for a good laugh.

[Cactus Jack]

Read on Twitter

That injury report is just the tip of the iceberg.

I mean it's a welcome report at this point of the season. Top-3 draft pick is coming.

For all the crap this franchise has been getting "over the last 30 years" we have not seen a pick like this one since Aikman.

You spent a top 4 pick on a RB.

There isn't an Aikman in this class.

[Mariner]

That injury report is just the tip of the iceberg.

I mean it's a welcome report at this point of the season. Top-3 draft pick is coming.

For all the crap this franchise has been getting "over the last 30 years" we have not seen a pick like this one since Aikman.

You spent a top 4 pick on a RB.

There isn't an Aikman in this class.

There doesn’t need to be an Aikman. Just the hope of one so someone will trade up and give a kings ransom.

[Micah Prescott]

I mean it's a welcome report at this point of the season. Top-3 draft pick is coming.

For all the crap this franchise has been getting "over the last 30 years" we have not seen a pick like this one since Aikman.

You spent a top 4 pick on a RB.

There isn't an Aikman in this class.

There doesn’t need to be an Aikman. Just the hope of one so someone will trade up and give a kings ransom.

Travis Hunter is the first 2-way prospect we have seen since Deion or Woodson.

The guy is freakishly athletic.

[Mr B]

That injury report is just the tip of the iceberg.

I mean it's a welcome report at this point of the season. Top-3 draft pick is coming.

For all the crap this franchise has been getting "over the last 30 years" we have not seen a pick like this one since Aikman.

You spent a top 4 pick on a RB.

There isn't an Aikman in this class.

Yea Zeke was pick #4 and Mo Claiborne was pick #6 I believe. There’s definitely no Troy Aikman in this draft. That doesn’t mean there aren’t good players at the top of this draft though. Abdul Carter for example is the best Edge in the draft. If the Cowboys do sign Belichick or Vrabel they could play more of a 3-4 defense with Carter and Parsons as the edge rushers.

Also they haven’t had much luck drafting players from Michigan but Mason Graham looks to be a pretty good DT. Or if they want to go with WR Tetairoa McMillan.

[Cactus Jack]

I mean it's a welcome report at this point of the season. Top-3 draft pick is coming.

For all the crap this franchise has been getting "over the last 30 years" we have not seen a pick like this one since Aikman.

You spent a top 4 pick on a RB.

There isn't an Aikman in this class.

Yea Zeke was pick #4 and Mo Claiborne was pick #6 I believe. There’s definitely no Troy Aikman in this draft. That doesn’t mean there aren’t good players at the top of this draft though. Abdul Carter for example is the best Edge in the draft. If the Cowboys do sign Belichick or Vrabel they could play more of a 3-4 defense with Carter and Parsons as the edge rushers.

Also they haven’t had much luck drafting players from Michigan but Mason Graham looks to be a pretty good DT. Or if they want to go with WR Tetairoa McMillan.

There is talent at the top of the draft. You're just not going to see teams give up the farm for a QB like previous years.

[Cactus Jack]

Why does Dallas need to tank anyway? Don't they have enough talent as is? Jerry needs to stop being cheap & use free agency as a way to improve his team. If you're having to rely on the draft every year, you're not going to see much improvement. Some teams need to take note.

[Mr B]

You spent a top 4 pick on a RB.

There isn't an Aikman in this class.

Yea Zeke was pick #4 and Mo Claiborne was pick #6 I believe. There’s definitely no Troy Aikman in this draft. That doesn’t mean there aren’t good players at the top of this draft though. Abdul Carter for example is the best Edge in the draft. If the Cowboys do sign Belichick or Vrabel they could play more of a 3-4 defense with Carter and Parsons as the edge rushers.

Also they haven’t had much luck drafting players from Michigan but Mason Graham looks to be a pretty good DT. Or if they want to go with WR Tetairoa McMillan.

There is talent at the top of the draft. You're just not going to see teams give up the farm for a QB like previous years.

It only takes 1 idiot to want to move up and we have seen every year there is at least 1 idiot.

I wouldn’t be opposed to keeping the pick though. Like I said the thought of having Abdul Carter and Micah Parsons coming off the edges sounds pretty good.

[Mr B]

Why does Dallas need to tank anyway? Don't they have enough talent as is? Jerry needs to stop being cheap & use free agency as a way to improve his team. If you're having to rely on the draft every year, you're not going to see much improvement. Some teams need to take note.

I’d personally like to see him add an offensive lineman or two through free agency. A #2 WR would be nice too.

[Lakers In 5]

This Eagles fan agrees, too.

And Jerry has been trying to prove us wrong since then. And will die trying.

He already did it.




two seasons removed from Jimmy with key players Larry Allen and Deion Sanders added

We've got to remain fair, so truth be told, this was one heck of a coaching job ... by Troy Aikman. Switzer didn't do ****.

[El Turco]

Why does Dallas need to tank anyway? Don't they have enough talent as is? Jerry needs to stop being cheap & use free agency as a way to improve his team. If you're having to rely on the draft every year, you're not going to see much improvement. Some teams need to take note.

Can they anymore? Their cap situation should be dire especially if they resign Parsons.

Doesnt make sense to backload contracts either for a team that is not in a position to contend.

[bluejerseyjinx]

And Jerry has been trying to prove us wrong since then. And will die trying.

He already did it.




two seasons removed from Jimmy with key players Larry Allen and Deion Sanders added

We've got to remain fair, so truth be told, this was one heck of a coaching job ... by Troy Aikman. Switzer didn't do ****.

Switzer was Jerry's first puppet after running Jimmy out of time. That was Jerry's first attempt of giving us the finger and saying, "I'll show you". 29 years later we are all waiting, except the young generation Cowboy fans. They just think its all bad luck.