Top 10 QB's

[QB_Eagles]

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[Micah Prescott]

This is something I think people don't want to acknowledge

Lamar Jackson: pass TD - 41; INTs - 4; Yards per Pass - 8.8; Passing Yards - 4,172; Rating - 119.6; Rushing Yards - 915; Rushing TDs - 4; Total TDs - 44

This is just a ridiculous year. The TD to INT ratio is nuts, and he was a dominant rusher as well. He was robbed of MVP, and Andrews dropped the ball. He is only 28 which is coming into prime age for QBs too. Why does no one want to give this guy cred?

Not only is Lamar is the best qb in the league right now, but he's the most dangerous weapon in all of football. The 4 interceptions that he threw last season weren't even his fault, three came off the receivers hand and the other coming because the receiver didn't finish his route. Dude is quite literally a cheat code.

So why is he so hated on? Just the lack of a ring? It sucks that so many fans are incapable of looking past that with QBs. Put the guy on the Eagles, see what happens. Football is more than 1 player.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Not only is Lamar is the best qb in the league right now, but he's the most dangerous weapon in all of football. The 4 interceptions that he threw last season weren't even his fault, three came off the receivers hand and the other coming because the receiver didn't finish his route. Dude is quite literally a cheat code.

Don't understand how you can even say that. We hear this every year before and early in the season, year after year. Like 8 years now. How can the most dangerous weapon and best QB in the league chose so bad and always fall up short and not get it done in the playoffs?

His fault that Andrews couldn't hold onto the ball right?

Perhaps. But what about the other 7 years? After all he's the best, right?

[bluejerseyjinx]

This is something I think people don't want to acknowledge

Lamar Jackson: pass TD - 41; INTs - 4; Yards per Pass - 8.8; Passing Yards - 4,172; Rating - 119.6; Rushing Yards - 915; Rushing TDs - 4; Total TDs - 44

This is just a ridiculous year. The TD to INT ratio is nuts, and he was a dominant rusher as well. He was robbed of MVP, and Andrews dropped the ball. He is only 28 which is coming into prime age for QBs too. Why does no one want to give this guy cred?

Not only is Lamar is the best qb in the league right now, but he's the most dangerous weapon in all of football. The 4 interceptions that he threw last season weren't even his fault, three came off the receivers hand and the other coming because the receiver didn't finish his route. Dude is quite literally a cheat code.

So why is he so hated on? Just the lack of a ring? It sucks that so many fans are incapable of looking past that with QBs. Put the guy on the Eagles, see what happens. Football is more than 1 player.

Jackson's ability and athleticism is not the issue.

[Micah Prescott]

Not only is Lamar is the best qb in the league right now, but he's the most dangerous weapon in all of football. The 4 interceptions that he threw last season weren't even his fault, three came off the receivers hand and the other coming because the receiver didn't finish his route. Dude is quite literally a cheat code.

So why is he so hated on? Just the lack of a ring? It sucks that so many fans are incapable of looking past that with QBs. Put the guy on the Eagles, see what happens. Football is more than 1 player.

Jackson's ability and athleticism is not the issue.

Jackson scoring a gazillion TDs while throwing no INTs isn't the issue either.

So what is the problem with the Ravens then? It's probably players and coaches who are not named Lamar Jackson.

[bluejerseyjinx]

So why is he so hated on? Just the lack of a ring? It sucks that so many fans are incapable of looking past that with QBs. Put the guy on the Eagles, see what happens. Football is more than 1 player.

Jackson's ability and athleticism is not the issue.

Jackson scoring a gazillion TDs while throwing no INTs isn't the issue either.

So what is the problem with the Ravens then? It's probably players and coaches who are not named Lamar Jackson.

For starters, and I have been saying this for 8 years and running now, is this style of play. You decide if its the team, coach or QB. This style of a run first QB has never been effective in chasing championships. Despite Jackson's unbelievable raw talent and ability, he has always had a hard time playing QB in the pocket. I've said this before. For whatever reason, Lamar does not play good QB from the pocket which is a huge liability if you want to go deep into the playoffs.

[Micah Prescott]

Jackson's ability and athleticism is not the issue.

Jackson scoring a gazillion TDs while throwing no INTs isn't the issue either.

So what is the problem with the Ravens then? It's probably players and coaches who are not named Lamar Jackson.

For starters, and I have been saying this for 8 years and running now, is this style of play. You decide if its the team, coach or QB. This style of a run first QB has never been effective in chasing championships. Despite Jackson's unbelievable raw talent and ability, he has always had a hard time playing QB in the pocket. I've said this before. For whatever reason, Lamar does not play good QB from the pocket which is a huge liability if you want to go deep into the playoffs.

How can you say that when he has more passing TDs and less INTs than virtually anyone else?

Also, Hurts is a running QB. Only with way less passing success. And the Eagles won a ring.

[Micah Prescott]

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[bluejerseyjinx]

Jackson scoring a gazillion TDs while throwing no INTs isn't the issue either.

So what is the problem with the Ravens then? It's probably players and coaches who are not named Lamar Jackson.

For starters, and I have been saying this for 8 years and running now, is this style of play. You decide if its the team, coach or QB. This style of a run first QB has never been effective in chasing championships. Despite Jackson's unbelievable raw talent and ability, he has always had a hard time playing QB in the pocket. I've said this before. For whatever reason, Lamar does not play good QB from the pocket which is a huge liability if you want to go deep into the playoffs.

How can you say that when he has more passing TDs and less INTs than virtually anyone else?

Also, Hurts is a running QB. Only with way less passing success. And the Eagles won a ring.

Well, in terms of a super bowl championship, super bowl run or deep run in the playoffs, it hasn't gotten him anywhere.

[Micah Prescott]

For starters, and I have been saying this for 8 years and running now, is this style of play. You decide if its the team, coach or QB. This style of a run first QB has never been effective in chasing championships. Despite Jackson's unbelievable raw talent and ability, he has always had a hard time playing QB in the pocket. I've said this before. For whatever reason, Lamar does not play good QB from the pocket which is a huge liability if you want to go deep into the playoffs.

How can you say that when he has more passing TDs and less INTs than virtually anyone else?

Also, Hurts is a running QB. Only with way less passing success. And the Eagles won a ring.

Well, in terms of a super championship, super bowl run or deep run in the playoffs, it hasn't gotten him anywhere.

it isn't HIM.

[bluejerseyjinx]

How can you say that when he has more passing TDs and less INTs than virtually anyone else?

Also, Hurts is a running QB. Only with way less passing success. And the Eagles won a ring.

Well, in terms of a super championship, super bowl run or deep run in the playoffs, it hasn't gotten him anywhere.

it isn't HIM.

So tell me, what do you think the issue is then?

[Micah Prescott]

Well, in terms of a super championship, super bowl run or deep run in the playoffs, it hasn't gotten him anywhere.

it isn't HIM.

So tell me, what do you think the issue is then?

Andrews dropping the ball stands out. Andrews also had a fumble that was lost to the Bills. Honestly Mark Andrews was just a really big facet of the Bills game. But coaches could have coached better, defense could have defensed better, etc.

You're narrowing the entire game of football down to just one player.

[bluejerseyjinx]

it isn't HIM.

So tell me, what do you think the issue is then?

Andrews dropping the ball stands out. Andrews also had a fumble that was lost to the Bills. Honestly Mark Andrews was just a really big facet of the Bills game. But coaches could have coached better, defense could have defensed better, etc.

You're narrowing the entire game of football down to just one player.

What about the other playoff games and games vs. the Chiefs. I wasn't just talking about last year's loss.

[Micah Prescott]

Ideally, we would judge QBs by what THEY are doing. And not by what their team is doing. The exact same way that NFL scouts judge and rank college QBs, where they completely ignore the final scores and just look directly at the individual.

Mahomes was 13-16 at Texas Tech. But Chiefs scouts understood that the final score is not all on the QB. They were able to look past that. They didn't write down in their notes "well his style of play just isn't good for winning" as that is illogical.

[bluejerseyjinx]

it isn't HIM.

So tell me, what do you think the issue is then?

Andrews dropping the ball stands out. Andrews also had a fumble that was lost to the Bills. Honestly Mark Andrews was just a really big facet of the Bills game. But coaches could have coached better, defense could have defensed better, etc.

You're narrowing the entire game of football down to just one player.

I'm not narrowing nothing, you are. You don't want to talk about the other playoff games where Lamar stunk the joint up in almost all cases. Last year he played well. But one good playoff game doesn't subtract all the other stinkers.

[Micah Prescott]

So tell me, what do you think the issue is then?

Andrews dropping the ball stands out. Andrews also had a fumble that was lost to the Bills. Honestly Mark Andrews was just a really big facet of the Bills game. But coaches could have coached better, defense could have defensed better, etc.

You're narrowing the entire game of football down to just one player.

I'm not narrowing nothing, you are. You don't want to talk about the other playoff games where Lamar stunk the joint up in almost all cases. Last year he played well. But one good playoff game doesn't subtract all the other stinkers.

Well if rings are the only thing you can see, of the QBs in contention with Lamar for #1 overall. Only Mahomes has a ring (who I have at #2). And Mahomes was very visabilly and statistically worse last season. And it is hard to excuse Mahomes with the Chiefs team, given that they had an elite defense last season and only gave up 18 PPG. So the offense really didn't have to do much, and Mahomes did not do much.

It is very difficult to rank Mahomes over Lamar to me, given that Lamar stat line was insanely better, and Mahomes defense was better than Lamar's.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Andrews dropping the ball stands out. Andrews also had a fumble that was lost to the Bills. Honestly Mark Andrews was just a really big facet of the Bills game. But coaches could have coached better, defense could have defensed better, etc.

You're narrowing the entire game of football down to just one player.

I'm not narrowing nothing, you are. You don't want to talk about the other playoff games where Lamar stunk the joint up in almost all cases. Last year he played well. But one good playoff game doesn't subtract all the other stinkers.

Well if rings are the only thing you can see, of the QBs in contention with Lamar for #1 overall. Only Mahomes has a ring (who I have at #2). And Mahomes was very visabilly and statistically worse last season. And it is hard to excuse Mahomes with the Chiefs team, given that they had an elite defense last season and only gave up 18 PPG. So the offense really didn't have to do much, and Mahomes did not do much.

It is very difficult to rank Mahomes over Lamar to me, given that Lamar stat line was insanely better, and Mahomes defense was better than Lamar's.

And yet Mahomes still won 15 games last year and took his team to a 3ird straight Super Bowl with the worst offense he ever had since 2018.

[Micah Prescott]

I'm not narrowing nothing, you are. You don't want to talk about the other playoff games where Lamar stunk the joint up in almost all cases. Last year he played well. But one good playoff game doesn't subtract all the other stinkers.

Well if rings are the only thing you can see, of the QBs in contention with Lamar for #1 overall. Only Mahomes has a ring (who I have at #2). And Mahomes was very visabilly and statistically worse last season. And it is hard to excuse Mahomes with the Chiefs team, given that they had an elite defense last season and only gave up 18 PPG. So the offense really didn't have to do much, and Mahomes did not do much.

It is very difficult to rank Mahomes over Lamar to me, given that Lamar stat line was insanely better, and Mahomes defense was better than Lamar's.

And yet Mahomes still won 15 games last year and took his team to a 3ird straight Super Bowl with the worst offense he ever had since 2018.

I'm kind of giving Mahomes a pass for a last season. Because in previous seasons he was, well arguably the best a QB has ever been. But his huge drop off last season, combined with Lamar having one of the best statisical seasons a QB has ever had. That is enough to have Lamar #1 and Mahomes #2.

And then the next tier is Burrow and Allen, both very good QBs, just have not quite made it to that level though. One tick away.

[JujitsuFlip]

So why is he so hated on? Just the lack of a ring? It sucks that so many fans are incapable of looking past that with QBs. Put the guy on the Eagles, see what happens. Football is more than 1 player.

Jackson's ability and athleticism is not the issue.

Jackson scoring a gazillion TDs while throwing no INTs isn't the issue either.

So what is the problem with the Ravens then? It's probably players and coaches who are not named Lamar Jackson.

Because Lamar starts throwing picks and fumbling the ball as soon as the playoffs start lol

[Micah Prescott]

Jackson's ability and athleticism is not the issue.

Jackson scoring a gazillion TDs while throwing no INTs isn't the issue either.

So what is the problem with the Ravens then? It's probably players and coaches who are not named Lamar Jackson.

Because Lamar starts throwing picks and fumbling the ball as soon as the playoffs start lol

He had 4 TD passes, 1 INT, passer rating 122.5 which was behind only Baker Mayfield.

Mahomes had 2 INTs, passer rating 101.4