NFL Trade Deadline: Nov. 4

[Mr B]

You can have Myles for 18 FRP.

I used to say the same thing about Luka.

Tbh, unlike Luka there would actually be some sense around trading Myles. I do think he'd be available if a team came calling with 3 FRPs. We have a few really good young players, we have picks, we are almost rid of the rapist, but are lacking a QB. By the time we have one and they figure out the league and start playing at a high level (if that ever even happens) Myles will be 33-34. Timeline is messed up.

On the surface you’re right. I mean, he’s Myles Garrett. 3 FRP’s easy is what you’d think. But you have to factor in his age. He’ll be 30 in December. How much longer does he have? Maybe 3-4 seasons? No one is going to give the Browns 3 FRP’s for a 30 year old pass rusher even if it is Myles Garrett. Well maybe Jerry would. I don’t think it will cost that much to get Garrett. I don’t think it would even cost what the Eagles are rumored to be offering for him (2 FRP’s). It will be interesting to see what he goes for if he is traded.

Like I said though, Jerry could **** all this up though and offer 4 FRP’s for Garrett. Lol

[Mr B]

Hope that doesn't happen. Even if we had both Crosby and Garrett our defense would be mid at best.

IMO the most bang we could get from 1 single player would be an elite CB. But I guess they have paid Diggs his money and we are stuck with that.

You don’t think adding a stud DT (Quinnen Williams or Justin Simmons), adding a stud DE (Garrett or Crosby), and getting Overshown back won’t help the defense?

I wouldn’t be comfortable adding just one of those players but adding 2 and getting Overshown back would make a huge difference in the defense. Eberflus’ defense would look a lot better if he could rely on the DL to generate most of the pressure without blitzing.

I’m still on the fence though when it comes to making a trade. I will say though that those are really the only 4 players I’d be interested in trading for, and I’d want 2 of them not just 1.

[QB_Eagles]

I used to say the same thing about Luka.

Tbh, unlike Luka there would actually be some sense around trading Myles. I do think he'd be available if a team came calling with 3 FRPs. We have a few really good young players, we have picks, we are almost rid of the rapist, but are lacking a QB. By the time we have one and they figure out the league and start playing at a high level (if that ever even happens) Myles will be 33-34. Timeline is messed up.

On the surface you’re right. I mean, he’s Myles Garrett. 3 FRP’s easy is what you’d think. But you have to factor in his age. He’ll be 30 in December. How much longer does he have? Maybe 3-4 seasons? No one is going to give the Browns 3 FRP’s for a 30 year old pass rusher even if it is Myles Garrett. Well maybe Jerry would. I don’t think it will cost that much to get Garrett. I don’t think it would even cost what the Eagles are rumored to be offering for him (2 FRP’s). It will be interesting to see what he goes for if he is traded.

Like I said though, Jerry could **** all this up though and offer 4 FRP’s for Garrett. Lol

I bet Jerry tried at least and offered the two 1sts from the Packers. Then he could brag about trading Parsons for Garrett and Kenny Clark. (Which would be quite the coup to be honest, but it's also not happening.)

[Mr B]

Tbh, unlike Luka there would actually be some sense around trading Myles. I do think he'd be available if a team came calling with 3 FRPs. We have a few really good young players, we have picks, we are almost rid of the rapist, but are lacking a QB. By the time we have one and they figure out the league and start playing at a high level (if that ever even happens) Myles will be 33-34. Timeline is messed up.

On the surface you’re right. I mean, he’s Myles Garrett. 3 FRP’s easy is what you’d think. But you have to factor in his age. He’ll be 30 in December. How much longer does he have? Maybe 3-4 seasons? No one is going to give the Browns 3 FRP’s for a 30 year old pass rusher even if it is Myles Garrett. Well maybe Jerry would. I don’t think it will cost that much to get Garrett. I don’t think it would even cost what the Eagles are rumored to be offering for him (2 FRP’s). It will be interesting to see what he goes for if he is traded.

Like I said though, Jerry could **** all this up though and offer 4 FRP’s for Garrett. Lol

I bet Jerry tried at least and offered the two 1sts from the Packers. Then he could brag about trading Parsons for Garrett and Kenny Clark. (Which would be quite the coup to be honest, but it's also not happening.)

I would honestly be shocked if this trade actually happened.

I do have a question for the Browns fan here. What is the Browns plan? They don’t seem to be going anywhere and yet they are paying big money to guys like Garrett who are clearly not the future of the franchise. Why not trade him? And aren’t they still paying Watson? When are they expected to get out from under that contract?

[Lakers In 5]

On the surface you’re right. I mean, he’s Myles Garrett. 3 FRP’s easy is what you’d think. But you have to factor in his age. He’ll be 30 in December. How much longer does he have? Maybe 3-4 seasons? No one is going to give the Browns 3 FRP’s for a 30 year old pass rusher even if it is Myles Garrett. Well maybe Jerry would. I don’t think it will cost that much to get Garrett. I don’t think it would even cost what the Eagles are rumored to be offering for him (2 FRP’s). It will be interesting to see what he goes for if he is traded.

Like I said though, Jerry could **** all this up though and offer 4 FRP’s for Garrett. Lol

I bet Jerry tried at least and offered the two 1sts from the Packers. Then he could brag about trading Parsons for Garrett and Kenny Clark. (Which would be quite the coup to be honest, but it's also not happening.)

I would honestly be shocked if this trade actually happened.

I do have a question for the Browns fan here. What is the Browns plan? They don’t seem to be going anywhere and yet they are paying big money to guys like Garrett who are clearly not the future of the franchise. Why not trade him? And aren’t they still paying Watson? When are they expected to get out from under that contract?

I don't think Stefanski and Berry have much of a plan, so God knows. Be awful, draft well I guess. You know, the usual. Now, we did have a terrific draft in 2025 getting a multitude of pieces that look so promising. However, we are lacking a QB, and that's not the best position to be in given the state of the 2026 QB class. Like I said earlier, the timeline between the Browns and Garrett doesn't align. Garrett is playing at a historic level, but our offense is NCAA level. By the time we rid of the rapist next year, Garrett is 31. We need more players, but by the time we get time Garrett is on his way out.

We should probably trade him.

[Mr B]

I bet Jerry tried at least and offered the two 1sts from the Packers. Then he could brag about trading Parsons for Garrett and Kenny Clark. (Which would be quite the coup to be honest, but it's also not happening.)

I would honestly be shocked if this trade actually happened.

I do have a question for the Browns fan here. What is the Browns plan? They don’t seem to be going anywhere and yet they are paying big money to guys like Garrett who are clearly not the future of the franchise. Why not trade him? And aren’t they still paying Watson? When are they expected to get out from under that contract?

I don't think Stefanski and Berry have much of a plan, so God knows. Be awful, draft well I guess. You know, the usual. Now, we did have a terrific draft in 2025 getting a multitude of pieces that look so promising. However, we are lacking a QB, and that's not the best position to be in given the state of the 2026 QB class. Like I said earlier, the timeline between the Browns and Garrett doesn't align. Garrett is playing at a historic level, but our offense is NCAA level. By the time we rid of the rapist next year, Garrett is 31. We need more players, but by the time we get time Garrett is on his way out.

We should probably trade him.

That’s what I’m thinking. By the time the Browns find and groom their QB and by the time they’re ready to compete Garrett will be old. Seems like right now would be the perfect time to trade him.

[Mariner]

Meh
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[Micah Prescott]

Hope that doesn't happen. Even if we had both Crosby and Garrett our defense would be mid at best.

IMO the most bang we could get from 1 single player would be an elite CB. But I guess they have paid Diggs his money and we are stuck with that.

You don’t think adding a stud DT (Quinnen Williams or Justin Simmons), adding a stud DE (Garrett or Crosby), and getting Overshown back won’t help the defense?

I wouldn’t be comfortable adding just one of those players but adding 2 and getting Overshown back would make a huge difference in the defense. Eberflus’ defense would look a lot better if he could rely on the DL to generate most of the pressure without blitzing.

I’m still on the fence though when it comes to making a trade. I will say though that those are really the only 4 players I’d be interested in trading for, and I’d want 2 of them not just 1.

All of 3 could maybe take us to a 16th ranked defense, right in the middle. And is that good enough to do something real? I mean maybe considering there seems to a lack a real juggernaut this season and every team is "mid".

[El Turco]

How do you plan on paying for all three or even two of them in that hypothetical? Dallas has way too much money tied up to their offense to pay three elite players on defense. Even worse if they are planning to keep Pickens.

[Mr B]

Hope that doesn't happen. Even if we had both Crosby and Garrett our defense would be mid at best.

IMO the most bang we could get from 1 single player would be an elite CB. But I guess they have paid Diggs his money and we are stuck with that.

You don’t think adding a stud DT (Quinnen Williams or Justin Simmons), adding a stud DE (Garrett or Crosby), and getting Overshown back won’t help the defense?

I wouldn’t be comfortable adding just one of those players but adding 2 and getting Overshown back would make a huge difference in the defense. Eberflus’ defense would look a lot better if he could rely on the DL to generate most of the pressure without blitzing.

I’m still on the fence though when it comes to making a trade. I will say though that those are really the only 4 players I’d be interested in trading for, and I’d want 2 of them not just 1.

All of 3 could maybe take us to a 16th ranked defense, right in the middle. And is that good enough to do something real? I mean maybe considering there seems to a lack a real juggernaut this season and every team is "mid".

I agree the NFC is wide open.

[Mr B]

How do you plan on paying for all three or even two of them in that hypothetical? Dallas has way too much money tied up to their offense to pay three elite players on defense. Even worse if they are planning to keep Pickens.

Honestly I’m not worried about the cap. There are a million ways to manipulate the cap. There are at least a couple teams that are paying at least 8 players $20M per season. Besides the Cowboys currently have the 2nd most cap space in the NFL.

[QB_Eagles]

I know Howie is gonna trade for someone, even just a special teams player; it's his fetish.

Called it.

Eagles swap late round picks with the Ravens for Jaire Alexander.

I actually liked him a lot in the draft and with the Packers but it seems like he is hampered by injuries right now.

[Mr B]

I know Howie is gonna trade for someone, even just a special teams player; it's his fetish.

Called it.

Eagles swap late round picks with the Ravens for Jaire Alexander.

I actually liked him a lot in the draft and with the Packers but it seems like he is hampered by injuries right now.

The local radio shows here in Dallas talked about the Cowboys acquiring him too just before the season started. At the time it looked like Green Bay was going to cut him. They never cut him though.

[QB_Eagles]

I know Howie is gonna trade for someone, even just a special teams player; it's his fetish.

Called it.

Eagles swap late round picks with the Ravens for Jaire Alexander.

I actually liked him a lot in the draft and with the Packers but it seems like he is hampered by injuries right now.

The local radio shows here in Dallas talked about the Cowboys acquiring him too just before the season started. At the time it looked like Green Bay was going to cut him. They never cut him though.

The Packers did cut him but he signed with the Ravens.

It's not a good sign though that the Ravens have one of the worst passing defenses yet hardly played him.

[Cactus Jack]

Called it.

Eagles swap late round picks with the Ravens for Jaire Alexander.

I actually liked him a lot in the draft and with the Packers but it seems like he is hampered by injuries right now.

The local radio shows here in Dallas talked about the Cowboys acquiring him too just before the season started. At the time it looked like Green Bay was going to cut him. They never cut him though.

The Packers did cut him but he signed with the Ravens.

It's not a good sign though that the Ravens have one of the worst passing defenses yet hardly played him.

Jaire is washed.

[El Turco]

How do you plan on paying for all three or even two of them in that hypothetical? Dallas has way too much money tied up to their offense to pay three elite players on defense. Even worse if they are planning to keep Pickens.

Honestly I’m not worried about the cap. There are a million ways to manipulate the cap. There are at least a couple teams that are paying at least 8 players $20M per season. Besides the Cowboys currently have the 2nd most cap space in the NFL.

That is not as easy as people think pushing the contracts catches up to every team. Every team with too many big contracts eventually has to go thru painful reset years even if you find a way to sign them.

Niners lost lot of their depth as cap casulties this year. One of the reasons Dallas have crap defense this year is their mismanagement of cap previous years too.

[Mr B]

How do you plan on paying for all three or even two of them in that hypothetical? Dallas has way too much money tied up to their offense to pay three elite players on defense. Even worse if they are planning to keep Pickens.

Honestly I’m not worried about the cap. There are a million ways to manipulate the cap. There are at least a couple teams that are paying at least 8 players $20M per season. Besides the Cowboys currently have the 2nd most cap space in the NFL.

That is not as easy as people think pushing the contracts catches up to every team. Every team with too many big contracts eventually has to go thru painful reset years even if you find a way to sign them.

Niners lost lot of their depth as cap casulties this year. One of the reasons Dallas have crap defense this year is their mismanagement of cap previous years too.

The Cowboys have been there before too. If you can’t build through the draft though it’s really the only way to go. Like I said there are several teams building this way. Not saying it’s the way I would build a team but several teams building this way.

[therealbig3]

Eh, Browns can always see if they can trade for or sign a good QB that becomes available. You never know, the Colts ended up with Daniel Jones, the Seahawks got Sam Darnold, Steelers took a chance on an old Aaron Rodgers and it's working out for them. If the Browns had any of those guys right now, all of a sudden you have a good QB with a bunch of good young players and a pass rusher like Garrett.

IDK, being awful and hoping to find a great QB in the draft is obviously the hope for every bad team that doesn't have a good one, but the Browns track record with that is awful.

[therealbig3]

And I didn't follow the Browns closely at the time, why did they move on from Baker? He's looked great with the Buccaneers and is on pace to make his 3rd straight Pro Bowl with them this year.

It's not like he was awful with the Browns and they cut ties and then he played a lot better after. He had a really good year in 2020 and led them to real team success (11-5, made the playoffs, won the Wild Card round) for the first time in like forever. Had a 7-8-1 and an 8-9 season with them too, so like not terrible like they usually are.

If they had Baker right now, they'd look way better.

[QB_Eagles]

And I didn't follow the Browns closely at the time, why did they move on from Baker? He's looked great with the Buccaneers and is on pace to make his 3rd straight Pro Bowl with them this year.

It's not like he was awful with the Browns and they cut ties and then he played a lot better after. He had a really good year in 2020 and led them to real team success (11-5, made the playoffs, won the Wild Card round) for the first time in like forever. Had a 7-8-1 and an 8-9 season with them too, so like not terrible like they usually are.

If they had Baker right now, they'd look way better.

His 2021 season was pretty bad but he was playing through a shoulder injury. Still the Browns front office decided to trade for Deshaun Watson to replace Baker.