Week 1 Game Thread

[WentzerWuver]

So do Panthers use what most likely will be a top 3 pick on a QB this upcoming draft? There is just nothing NFL quality about Bryce. He’s beyond tiny, not an elite athlete and doesn’t have an elite arm.

Or do they just stick with him again and keep loading up on high draft picks?

Drafting QB is a crap shoot so why should they? Every QB was a bust in the Trey Lance draft class while there are a bunch of undrafted Purdy's available just hoping for a chance to win.

Trevor Lawrence is a bust?

Oh didn't know he was in that draft as i went by memory. So who do we have here... Zach Wilson, Fields, Mac along with Trey all taken early....and in this draft, only Daniels (CJ) will live up to his draft hype. Caleb (Bryce) is a bust with his pff 6.71 score reflects the awful play but his defense saved the game in the 2nd half when being down 3-17 at the half. I actually prefer Trubisky.

https://youtu.be/68llmIwe1ns?si=PN77oGzAGlhq73VG

[Cactus Jack]

I guess we're making judgements off of one game now.

[Cactus Jack]

So do Panthers use what most likely will be a top 3 pick on a QB this upcoming draft? There is just nothing NFL quality about Bryce. He’s beyond tiny, not an elite athlete and doesn’t have an elite arm.

Or do they just stick with him again and keep loading up on high draft picks?

Better question: Is there a QB in this upcoming class worth taking?

[El Turco]

I guess we're making judgements off of one game now.

Still think Bryce will be the best QB from last year?

[El Turco]

So do Panthers use what most likely will be a top 3 pick on a QB this upcoming draft? There is just nothing NFL quality about Bryce. He’s beyond tiny, not an elite athlete and doesn’t have an elite arm.

Or do they just stick with him again and keep loading up on high draft picks?

Drafting QB is a crap shoot so why should they? Every QB was a bust in the Trey Lance draft class while there are a bunch of undrafted Purdy's available just hoping for a chance to win.

I would pick a QB every year with a high or mid round pick unless I have top 3-5 type of quarterback. Nothing more valuable than a good quarterback on a rookie contract, more lottery tickets the better.

[WentzerWuver]

So do Panthers use what most likely will be a top 3 pick on a QB this upcoming draft? There is just nothing NFL quality about Bryce. He’s beyond tiny, not an elite athlete and doesn’t have an elite arm.

Or do they just stick with him again and keep loading up on high draft picks?

Drafting QB is a crap shoot so why should they? Every QB was a bust in the Trey Lance draft class while there are a bunch of undrafted Purdy's available just hoping for a chance to win.

I would pick a QB every year with a high or mid round pick unless I have top 3-5 type of quarterback. Nothing more valuable than a good quarterback on a rookie contract, more lottery tickets the better.

So do Panthers use what most likely will be a top 3 pick on a QB this upcoming draft? There is just nothing NFL quality about Bryce. He’s beyond tiny, not an elite athlete and doesn’t have an elite arm.

Or do they just stick with him again and keep loading up on high draft picks?

Drafting QB is a crap shoot so why should they? Every QB was a bust in the Trey Lance draft class while there are a bunch of undrafted Purdy's available just hoping for a chance to win.

I would pick a QB every year with a high or mid round pick unless I have top 3-5 type of quarterback. Nothing more valuable than a good quarterback on a rookie contract, more lottery tickets the better.

So which QB would you take with the top pick in this draft if you still had JimmyG as your starter? Daniels is the least bust QB in this class imo but would take either Joe Alt or Taliese Fuaga with the top pick and take the following QB on day 3 if I had the current 49ers roster but with JimmyG still the starter and Purdy was never discovered/drafted.

https://youtube.com/shorts/hfTxIzvsHPw?si=pGDqxNAZnxjTVANr

Just a note, had the 49ers taken Zach, Fields or Mac instead of Lance in that same draft, the pick would still have ended up a waste for a SB contender, as all of them would've struggled to replace JimmyG, and would have been better off as day 3 picks but the hype drive them all up, so keep that in mind.

[hermes]

alright, i'm back from vacation - what did i miss? sam darnold starting his mvp campaign???

look out league, vikings might be onto something here!

[hermes]

wait, and i'm leading the pick'em group???? stop the count!

is this year my 'a broken clock is right twice a day' moment? or am i just proving you don't actually need to know anything about football or watch the games to be able to pick them correctly?

[Cactus Jack]

I guess we're making judgements off of one game now.

Still think Bryce will be the best QB from last year?

I'd still take him over Fields.

[Duke4life831]

So do Panthers use what most likely will be a top 3 pick on a QB this upcoming draft? There is just nothing NFL quality about Bryce. He’s beyond tiny, not an elite athlete and doesn’t have an elite arm.

Or do they just stick with him again and keep loading up on high draft picks?

Drafting QB is a crap shoot so why should they? Every QB was a bust in the Trey Lance draft class while there are a bunch of undrafted Purdy's available just hoping for a chance to win.

Because its the most important position in all of sports. There arent a bunch of Purdy's available. Youre acting like the QB position is like the RB position.

Put it one way, the only QB in the last 20 years to win MVP who wasnt a 1st round pick was Tom Brady.

[Duke4life831]

I guess we're making judgements off of one game now.

17 games, sub 60% completion rate, more INTs than TDs, and averaging sub 200 yards passing per game.

And its not like we're talking an Anthony Richardson type of physical prospect. We're talking about a 5'10 dude who isnt an elite athlete and doesnt have an elite arm.

I know he was your guy coming out of the draft, time to let him go though haha.

[wco81]

Someone noted that Bryce is undersized, doesn't have a big arm, isn't especially quick or fast.

So things would have to go perfectly for him, would have to have a lot of weapons and a great line.

He had those things at Alabama. Not so much in the NFL when a team drafts him high, they're going to be at a disadvantage on talent.

Until Tua, Alabama QBs haven't done much in the NFL despite dominance in college. That was the case with USC QBs except for maybe Carson Palmer, because USC WRs and RBs dominated their matchups.

So the Panthers' hedge fund owner thought he had some great insight that experienced football people didn't have.

[WentzerWuver]

So do Panthers use what most likely will be a top 3 pick on a QB this upcoming draft? There is just nothing NFL quality about Bryce. He’s beyond tiny, not an elite athlete and doesn’t have an elite arm.

Or do they just stick with him again and keep loading up on high draft picks?

Drafting QB is a crap shoot so why should they? Every QB was a bust in the Trey Lance draft class while there are a bunch of undrafted Purdy's available just hoping for a chance to win.

Because its the most important position in all of sports. There arent a bunch of Purdy's available. Youre acting like the QB position is like the RB position.

Put it one way, the only QB in the last 20 years to win MVP who wasnt a 1st round pick was Tom Brady.

Jalen Hurts was an MVP candidate and should have won it when we went to the SB. Many others been MVP candidates and winners beyond the 20 year window like Joe Cool but Brady and Mahomes been mostly hogging it up for the past 2 decades.

https://youtu.be/7iwSIf0JeiA?si=mRalnN5NDQ3OnKyE

https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/everything-you-need-to-know-about-nfl-mvp-front-runner-jalen-hurts/548542/

And how do you know if there are not a bunch of Purdys if they are not given a chance of being discovered since there are a bunch of them at school who looks like a dweeb just like him.

[Cactus Jack]

I guess we're making judgements off of one game now.

17 games, sub 60% completion rate, more INTs than TDs, and averaging sub 200 yards passing per game.

And its not like we're talking an Anthony Richardson type of physical prospect. We're talking about a 5'10 dude who isnt an elite athlete and doesnt have an elite arm.

I know he was your guy coming out of the draft, time to let him go though haha.

I was actually referring to the other post that insinuated that Caleb was a bust because of his week one performance lol.

A lot of people missed on Bryce. I underestimated just how much his size would be an issue.

My thoughts prior to that draft we're that Richardson was the smart long-term play. He might not always be the most efficient passer. But that he had the physical & unique traits to overcome a lot of that. You put him with the right coach & system, and he would flourish.

[Duke4life831]

Drafting QB is a crap shoot so why should they? Every QB was a bust in the Trey Lance draft class while there are a bunch of undrafted Purdy's available just hoping for a chance to win.

Because its the most important position in all of sports. There arent a bunch of Purdy's available. Youre acting like the QB position is like the RB position.

Put it one way, the only QB in the last 20 years to win MVP who wasnt a 1st round pick was Tom Brady.

Jalen Hurts was an MVP candidate and should have won it when we went to the SB. Many others been MVP candidates and winners beyond the 20 year window like Joe Cool but Brady and Mahomes been mostly hogging it up for the past 2 decades.

https://youtu.be/7iwSIf0JeiA?si=mRalnN5NDQ3OnKyE

https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/everything-you-need-to-know-about-nfl-mvp-front-runner-jalen-hurts/548542/

And how do you know if there are not a bunch of Purdys if they are not given a chance of being discovered since there are a bunch of them at school who looks like a dweeb just like him.

Hurts was a 2nd round pick, not a 7th round or an undrafted guy. What youre saying is essentially all of the NFL front offices are doing it wrong when it comes to wasting high end draft picks and massive contracts to QBs. While in reality they should just be treated like RBs and get them super late or undrafted. Then when its time to give them a big contract, dont because just go get another Purdy for 1 mil a year instead.

[Duke4life831]

I guess we're making judgements off of one game now.

17 games, sub 60% completion rate, more INTs than TDs, and averaging sub 200 yards passing per game.

And its not like we're talking an Anthony Richardson type of physical prospect. We're talking about a 5'10 dude who isnt an elite athlete and doesnt have an elite arm.

I know he was your guy coming out of the draft, time to let him go though haha.

I was actually referring to the other post that insinuated that Caleb was a bust because of his week one performance lol.

A lot of people missed on Bryce. I underestimated just how much his size would be an issue.

My thoughts prior to that draft we're that Richardson was the smart long-term play. He might not always be the most efficient passer. But that he had the physical & unique traits to overcome a lot of that.

Oh my bad. Im all on the Caleb will be a bust train. But not because of this past week, but 100% because of my Viking fandom and I dont want to deal with another franchise level QB killing my team for the next decade +.

The Richardson thing to me is so Jekyll and Hyde. Like that 70 yard pinpoint bomb off balanced this past week was just obscene. Stuff like that makes me think any kind of long term patience will be worth it, because he is such a freak physical phenom. But then I went back and watched that full game, outside of the few highlight plays, my god that was rough to watch haha. Nothing about him playing QB feels natural. The throwing motion is kind of janky and he is just so inaccurate and inconsistent. But damn that potential is freakish.

[Duke4life831]

Someone noted that Bryce is undersized, doesn't have a big arm, isn't especially quick or fast.

So things would have to go perfectly for him, would have to have a lot of weapons and a great line.

He had those things at Alabama. Not so much in the NFL when a team drafts him high, they're going to be at a disadvantage on talent.

Until Tua, Alabama QBs haven't done much in the NFL despite dominance in college. That was the case with USC QBs except for maybe Carson Palmer, because USC WRs and RBs dominated their matchups.

So the Panthers' hedge fund owner thought he had some great insight that experienced football people didn't have.

Ya like I can see Bryce being solid on a team like SF or Miami (Ill throw in Minny just to be a homer). Teams with skill talent, offensive line talent and most importantly, high level coaching that know how to maximize their QB. The thing is, its not really a super long list of teams that fit that criteria. And even then if he finds himself in that perfect scenario, youre going to have the conversations of "is he actually good enough for big QB money, or is he really just a product of this ridiculous system".

The dude just isnt a NFL QB to me. If youre going to be that small, you need the quickness and arm talent that Kyler has. And even then, it seems like NFL defenses have kind of figured out Kyler and its not like he is some high impact QB the last few years.

[Cactus Jack]

17 games, sub 60% completion rate, more INTs than TDs, and averaging sub 200 yards passing per game.

And its not like we're talking an Anthony Richardson type of physical prospect. We're talking about a 5'10 dude who isnt an elite athlete and doesnt have an elite arm.

I know he was your guy coming out of the draft, time to let him go though haha.

I was actually referring to the other post that insinuated that Caleb was a bust because of his week one performance lol.

A lot of people missed on Bryce. I underestimated just how much his size would be an issue.

My thoughts prior to that draft we're that Richardson was the smart long-term play. He might not always be the most efficient passer. But that he had the physical & unique traits to overcome a lot of that.

Oh my bad. Im all on the Caleb will be a bust train. But not because of this past week, but 100% because of my Viking fandom and I dont want to deal with another franchise level QB killing my team for the next decade +.

The Richardson thing to me is so Jekyll and Hyde. Like that 70 yard pinpoint bomb off balanced this past week was just obscene. Stuff like that makes me think any kind of long term patience will be worth it, because he is such a freak physical phenom. But then I went back and watched that full game, outside of the few highlight plays, my god that was rough to watch haha. Nothing about him playing QB feels natural. The throwing motion is kind of janky and he is just so inaccurate and inconsistent. But damn that potential is freakish.

Yeah, his college film was a mixed bag. It's why I thought he should've stayed in school. It's not always going to look pretty.

I was right about Will Levis.

[Duke4life831]

I was actually referring to the other post that insinuated that Caleb was a bust because of his week one performance lol.

A lot of people missed on Bryce. I underestimated just how much his size would be an issue.

My thoughts prior to that draft we're that Richardson was the smart long-term play. He might not always be the most efficient passer. But that he had the physical & unique traits to overcome a lot of that.

Oh my bad. Im all on the Caleb will be a bust train. But not because of this past week, but 100% because of my Viking fandom and I dont want to deal with another franchise level QB killing my team for the next decade +.

The Richardson thing to me is so Jekyll and Hyde. Like that 70 yard pinpoint bomb off balanced this past week was just obscene. Stuff like that makes me think any kind of long term patience will be worth it, because he is such a freak physical phenom. But then I went back and watched that full game, outside of the few highlight plays, my god that was rough to watch haha. Nothing about him playing QB feels natural. The throwing motion is kind of janky and he is just so inaccurate and inconsistent. But damn that potential is freakish.

Yeah, his college film was a mixed bag. It's why I thought he should've stayed in school. It's not always going to look pretty.

I was right about Will Levis.

Haha it was a horrible QB draft class and I knew Levis was a high risk of failure as a QB. But damn if I won’t keep falling for QBs with big arms and + mobility. Throw in bad footwork and you got the QB that I continue to think “my team can fix him!”

Ewers come on down!

[Cactus Jack]

Yeah, his college film was a mixed bag. It's why I thought he should've stayed in school. It's not always going to look pretty.

I was right about Will Levis.

Haha it was a horrible QB draft class and I knew Levis was a high risk of failure as a QB. But damn if I won’t keep falling for QBs with big arms and + mobility. Throw in bad footwork and you got the QB that I continue to think “my team can fix him!”

Ewers come on down!

The hit rate on QB's is like 40%.