Super Bowl LIX - Eagles wins 40-22

[WentzerWuver]

Giants drafting the next Barry Sanders is the only way to recover from the Saquon debacle. Drafting a QB would be their worst mistake cause the fans would still never forgive the team on allowing a loyal fan favorite to walk to a devisional rival.

No, the Giants actually need a QB.

Take Jeanty in round 1 and this guy with their high 2nd round pick to potentially be the next Joshy. Or draft a QB in a much better class next season. Only a fool would take one of the 2 overrated signal callers in the top 10 in this weak class. I'm not passing up on the next great back if I was advising the Giants owner on his predicament.

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[Mr B]

This Eagles defense is probably top 3-5 all time possibly higher

What?

Top 3? No way. '85 Bears, '00 Ravens & Legion of Boom we're superior.

Don't forget the Steel Curtain. Am I showing my age?

The Cowboys’ defenses’ in the 90’s were by far better than this defense.

[Mr B]

I thought he won 81 percent of the time

He may have to latch onto the Eagles now. Imagine that, a Cowboys fan jumping on the Eagles bandwagon.

Mr B already has his Eagles gear on order LOL

Yea I realized I did need more toilet paper.

[GeorgeSears]

Mahomes had a QBR of 11.4. That's the 2nd lowest QBR of a starting QB in a Super Bowl since the stat was introduced. Mahomes now has 2 of the 5 lowest QBRs in Super Bowl history.

1. Peyton Manning (2015) - 8.4
2. Patrick Mahomes (2024) - 11.4
3. Rex Grossman (2006) - 30.0
4. Patrick Mahomes (2020) - 42.2

Peyton Manning was way past his prime and couldn't throw the football. Grossman was always terrible. Mahomes doesn't have those excuses, he was just a total disaster. The Eagles defense was great, but Mahomes was just awful.

Legacy damaging performance by Mahomes.

[Jaydubb]

Mahomes had a QBR of 11.4. That's the 2nd lowest QBR of a starting QB in a Super Bowl since the stat was introduced. Mahomes now has 2 of the 5 lowest QBRs in Super Bowl history.

1. Peyton Manning (2015) - 8.4
2. Patrick Mahomes (2024) - 11.4
3. Rex Grossman (2006) - 30.0
4. Patrick Mahomes (2020) - 42.2

Peyton Manning was way past his prime and couldn't throw the football. Grossman was always terrible. Mahomes doesn't have those excuses, he was just a total disaster. The Eagles defense was great, but Mahomes was just awful.

Legacy damaging performance by Mahomes.

I was thinking this last night too, I think this game definitely hurts mahomes legacy. I mean don’t get me wrong he’s gonna still be 1st ballot hall of fame, but any convos about him being in GOAT status will end immediately when these two games are brought up. He didn’t just lose, Brady has lost super bowls also, but the way mahomes lost makes him look bad. He put up some major stinkers, Brady never did that.

[Jaydubb]

I also saw a thing on Twitter saying mahomes might’ve hit his head in the first quarter which is why he played so bad. But if that’s the case then why did he look real good on the last throw of the game which was a 50 yard TD pass against the eagles 3rd string defense? The game was over with like 5 minutes to go which is why the eagles took all their starters out. That’s another thing, how often do you see teams resting starters in the Super Bowl?

[Worm Guts]

Mahomes had a QBR of 11.4. That's the 2nd lowest QBR of a starting QB in a Super Bowl since the stat was introduced. Mahomes now has 2 of the 5 lowest QBRs in Super Bowl history.

1. Peyton Manning (2015) - 8.4
2. Patrick Mahomes (2024) - 11.4
3. Rex Grossman (2006) - 30.0
4. Patrick Mahomes (2020) - 42.2

Peyton Manning was way past his prime and couldn't throw the football. Grossman was always terrible. Mahomes doesn't have those excuses, he was just a total disaster. The Eagles defense was great, but Mahomes was just awful.

Legacy damaging performance by Mahomes.

We're still talking about 3 time Super Bowl MVP. His legacy is pretty well cemented.

[QB_Eagles]

Mahomes had a QBR of 11.4. That's the 2nd lowest QBR of a starting QB in a Super Bowl since the stat was introduced. Mahomes now has 2 of the 5 lowest QBRs in Super Bowl history.

1. Peyton Manning (2015) - 8.4
2. Patrick Mahomes (2024) - 11.4
3. Rex Grossman (2006) - 30.0
4. Patrick Mahomes (2020) - 42.2

Peyton Manning was way past his prime and couldn't throw the football. Grossman was always terrible. Mahomes doesn't have those excuses, he was just a total disaster. The Eagles defense was great, but Mahomes was just awful.

Legacy damaging performance by Mahomes.

We're still talking about 3 time Super Bowl MVP. His legacy is pretty well cemented.

Yeah, he's still a great QB but I think the GOAT talk slowed down a little with that performance.

[Worm Guts]

Mahomes had a QBR of 11.4. That's the 2nd lowest QBR of a starting QB in a Super Bowl since the stat was introduced. Mahomes now has 2 of the 5 lowest QBRs in Super Bowl history.

1. Peyton Manning (2015) - 8.4
2. Patrick Mahomes (2024) - 11.4
3. Rex Grossman (2006) - 30.0
4. Patrick Mahomes (2020) - 42.2

Peyton Manning was way past his prime and couldn't throw the football. Grossman was always terrible. Mahomes doesn't have those excuses, he was just a total disaster. The Eagles defense was great, but Mahomes was just awful.

Legacy damaging performance by Mahomes.

We're still talking about 3 time Super Bowl MVP. His legacy is pretty well cemented.

Yeah, he's still a great QB but I think the GOAT talk slowed down a little with that performance.

GOAT talk was premature with where Brady set the bar, but Mahomes probably already has a top 3 resume of the Super Bowl era.

[Cactus Jack]

Also, after the big 4 (Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen), I'll take Hurts as the #5 QB.

He's game reminds me of Russ. I still think he holds onto the ball too long at times. Which he's able to get away with because of that offensive line. Also, not a great pocket passer. But he does the little things. Is surrounded by a great roster. Credit to Howie Roseman. He's probably the best GM in the league.

[QB_Eagles]

We're still talking about 3 time Super Bowl MVP. His legacy is pretty well cemented.

Yeah, he's still a great QB but I think the GOAT talk slowed down a little with that performance.

GOAT talk was premature with where Brady set the bar, but Mahomes probably already has a top 3 resume of the Super Bowl era.

I was never a Peyton Manning fan personally, but do people really think Mahomes' career so far has already been better?

He hasn't surpassed Joe Montana IMO. Dan Marino, neither, if we're allowed to include pussy losers in this conversation.

[Mr Swagtastic]

We're still talking about 3 time Super Bowl MVP. His legacy is pretty well cemented.

Yeah, he's still a great QB but I think the GOAT talk slowed down a little with that performance.

GOAT talk was premature with where Brady set the bar, but Mahomes probably already has a top 3 resume of the Super Bowl era.

Agree he's (Mahomes) still an elite QB especially in the playoffs. I just think Brady is just too good. Look at how many records Brady is #1 in Brady has almost 9k more yards over Brees, 600 more completions, 110+.TDS then you factor in the playoff stats like MVPs, superbowls and you clearly see the dominance of Brady. I think the Swift distraction is Jessica Simpson Tony Romo 2.0

To put it in perspective Tom Brady has 27,000 more passing yards but then the current active leader which is Aaron Rodgers who has 62,000 yards that is just insane

[QB_Eagles]

Also, after the big 4 (Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen), I'll take Hurts as the #5 QB.

He's game reminds me of Russ. I still think he holds onto the ball too long at times. Not a great pocket passer. But he does the little things. Is surrounded by a great roster. Credit to Howie Roseman. He's probably the best GM in the league.

I don't think Hurts will ever be 1st-team All-Pro but he got the clutch gene and that's the most important factor.

[GeorgeSears]

Also, after the big 4 (Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen), I'll take Hurts as the #5 QB.

I wouldn't take him over Daniels, Kyler, Herbert, or Stroud. I would say he's top 10.

[Cactus Jack]

Also, after the big 4 (Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen), I'll take Hurts as the #5 QB.

I wouldn't take him over Daniels, Kyler, Herbert, or Stroud. I would say he's top 10.

I would take him over Kyler. Kyler's not a winner. He shrinks in big moments. Hell, I'd take Geno over Kyler.

[Jaydubb]

Also, after the big 4 (Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen), I'll take Hurts as the #5 QB.

He's game reminds me of Russ. I still think he holds onto the ball too long at times. Not a great pocket passer. But he does the little things. Is surrounded by a great roster. Credit to Howie Roseman. He's probably the best GM in the league.

I don't think Hurts will ever be 1st-team All-Pro but he got the clutch gene and that's the most important factor.

Yeppp. That’s what casual fans tend to not understand about hurts. He’s clutch. I see it all the time, people look at stats and say hurts is mid but what they don’t see is a 8 yard completion on 4th and 5 or a 4th and 4, 7 yard run to keep a drive alive.etc This is once again why stats don’t tell the whole story about players.

Truth is, hurts doesn’t care about stats, all he cares about is winning. When he needs to make plays he’s very capable.

[Jaydubb]

Also, after the big 4 (Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen), I'll take Hurts as the #5 QB.

I wouldn't take him over Daniels, Kyler, Herbert, or Stroud. I would say he's top 10.

Is there another kyler that I’m not aware of?

[Mamba Mentality]

I've been a Hurts truther since he came into the league so I'm really happy for him. Outside of the interception and the underthrown ball to Barkley I thought he played a flawless game.

[JujitsuFlip]

He may have to latch onto the Eagles now. Imagine that, a Cowboys fan jumping on the Eagles bandwagon.

Mr B already has his Eagles gear on order LOL

Yea I realized I did need more toilet paper.

Glad you found a new band wagon to hitch up to sir!

[Worm Guts]

Yeah, he's still a great QB but I think the GOAT talk slowed down a little with that performance.

GOAT talk was premature with where Brady set the bar, but Mahomes probably already has a top 3 resume of the Super Bowl era.

I was never a Peyton Manning fan personally, but do people really think Mahomes' career so far has already been better?

He hasn't surpassed Joe Montana IMO. Dan Marino, neither, if we're allowed to include pussy losers in this conversation.

It depends on how much weight you put on playoffs vs regular season. Manning has the 5 MVP’s and is probably the best regular season QB ever, but I don’t think he ever played well in a Super Bowl, and he had a handful of disappointing playoff runs. Montana is the other guy besides Brady that I think has a better resume than Mahomes.