2025 NFL Off-Season

[El Turco]

They we're never going to get that return. But I still think best case they might have been able to get a late 1st if things had gone differently. But they wanted to resolve it asap & settled for a 2nd. Which is fine. It's not a great return. But it's fair compensation for the most part. Now, they don't have to deal with any more drama this offseason involving him & the team can plan accordingly.

Yeah I think it is a good move by Seattle, I am also in the camp of not paying receivers unless it is Jefferson, Chase or Mooney. There are many B, B+ type of receivers and more coming in the league every year. Supply is above demand, good athletes choosing to play receiver instead of some of the other positions that get paid less and have more wear and tear.

Seattle is on the right path if they dont sign Darnold or another high priced quarterback.

They'll probably sign Darold as a short-term stopgap. But reshaping the roster was necessary if they planned on competing long-term. Now they have the opportunity to reset & build a roster properly.

That would undo much of the moves, Darnold is not going to give you anything except for worse picks and take up cap space. Use your cap and high picks next draft to build your line and defense, then see which quarterback available next year.

[El Turco]

They we're never going to get that return. But I still think best case they might have been able to get a late 1st if things had gone differently. But they wanted to resolve it asap & settled for a 2nd. Which is fine. It's not a great return. But it's fair compensation for the most part. Now, they don't have to deal with any more drama this offseason involving him & the team can plan accordingly.

Yeah I think it is a good move by Seattle, I am also in the camp of not paying receivers unless it is Jefferson, Chase or Mooney. There are many B, B+ type of receivers and more coming in the league every year. Supply is above demand, good athletes choosing to play receiver instead of some of the other positions that get paid less and have more wear and tear.

Seattle is on the right path if they dont sign Darnold or another high priced quarterback.

I think WR is one of those positions that you don’t need top tier talent at. If you have a good OL and a good QB I feel like elite WRs aren’t needed. Give the biggest contracts to OL/DL and QB. Obviously having some of these positions on rookie deals helps overpay other positions and that’s why I think it worked for the eagles this year.

Yup, building inside out almost always works out better than prioritizing glamour positions. Miami tried the latter and I dont think they were going anywhere even without Tua's injuries.

[Cactus Jack]

Yeah I think it is a good move by Seattle, I am also in the camp of not paying receivers unless it is Jefferson, Chase or Mooney. There are many B, B+ type of receivers and more coming in the league every year. Supply is above demand, good athletes choosing to play receiver instead of some of the other positions that get paid less and have more wear and tear.

Seattle is on the right path if they dont sign Darnold or another high priced quarterback.

They'll probably sign Darold as a short-term stopgap. But reshaping the roster was necessary if they planned on competing long-term. Now they have the opportunity to reset & build a roster properly.

That would undo much of the moves, Darnold is not going to give you anything except for worse picks and take up cap space. Use your cap and high picks next draft to build your line and defense, then see which quarterback available next year.

I'd be fine with a cheaper option like Cousins on a 1- or 2-year deal. But I think they prefer Darnold. He's a better fit with Kubiak.

[Mariner]

You were wrong too! He’s not valued like a Mooney and he went for more than a 3rd!

So we are both wrong! I can take it, can you?!?!

lol I never said he was the same as Mooney. lol
I said their last years were similar stats wise.
I clearly said before and now that DK is clearly better.
You just refuse to understand that.
This is about compensation ONLY!
It’s being reported that 8 teams were in discussions with Seattle. That means all the offers were worse than the second of the Steelers. Most GMs probably offered a third.
Understand that the second they got wasn’t the average offer. It was the best offer. The average offer was worse.
Tell me you don’t understand by mentioning Mooney again. lol

So you can’t take it, I knew it!!! Hahahaaaa!!

Truth is neither of us were right but neither of us were wrong either because there were other factors going on. After DK requested a trade, his trade value is lowered, I don’t know why you refuse to accept that fact. That’s trade value 101. Reports were coming out that Seattle was willing to keep dk too until DK requested a trade, when that happened other GMs inevitably lowered their trade offers because at that point Seattle needed them more than they needed Seattle.

So yeah we were both wrong and we were both right. Be my friend again, please?

His trade value didn’t change. lol Your just rationalizing.
Sometimes a player can totally blindsided a team and request a trade and that can hurt the teams leverage.
But that’s clearly not the case here.
He was publicly being shopped. Seattle already hinted they wouldn’t pay an extension. The templet of this trade was probably done before DKs meaningless announcement.
If Kupp demands a trade would it affect anything? Hell no.

[Jaydubb]

Yeah I think it is a good move by Seattle, I am also in the camp of not paying receivers unless it is Jefferson, Chase or Mooney. There are many B, B+ type of receivers and more coming in the league every year. Supply is above demand, good athletes choosing to play receiver instead of some of the other positions that get paid less and have more wear and tear.

Seattle is on the right path if they dont sign Darnold or another high priced quarterback.

I think WR is one of those positions that you don’t need top tier talent at. If you have a good OL and a good QB I feel like elite WRs aren’t needed. Give the biggest contracts to OL/DL and QB. Obviously having some of these positions on rookie deals helps overpay other positions and that’s why I think it worked for the eagles this year.

Yup, building inside out almost always works out better than prioritizing glamour positions. Miami tried the latter and I dont think they were going anywhere even without Tua's injuries.

Yeah and tyreek might request a trade soon too.lol he’s been talking like he wants to move on but I wonder if teams just don’t want to take on his contract at 31 years old. He’s still elite but relies on speed so he could easily have a big regression year at any time

[Jaydubb]

lol I never said he was the same as Mooney. lol
I said their last years were similar stats wise.
I clearly said before and now that DK is clearly better.
You just refuse to understand that.
This is about compensation ONLY!
It’s being reported that 8 teams were in discussions with Seattle. That means all the offers were worse than the second of the Steelers. Most GMs probably offered a third.
Understand that the second they got wasn’t the average offer. It was the best offer. The average offer was worse.
Tell me you don’t understand by mentioning Mooney again. lol

So you can’t take it, I knew it!!! Hahahaaaa!!

Truth is neither of us were right but neither of us were wrong either because there were other factors going on. After DK requested a trade, his trade value is lowered, I don’t know why you refuse to accept that fact. That’s trade value 101. Reports were coming out that Seattle was willing to keep dk too until DK requested a trade, when that happened other GMs inevitably lowered their trade offers because at that point Seattle needed them more than they needed Seattle.

So yeah we were both wrong and we were both right. Be my friend again, please?

His trade value didn’t change. lol Your just rationalizing.
Sometimes a player can totally blindsided a team and request a trade and that can hurt the teams leverage.
But that’s clearly not the case here.
He was publicly being shopped. Seattle already hinted they wouldn’t pay an extension. The templet of this trade was probably done before DKs meaningless announcement.
If Kupp demands a trade would it affect anything? Hell no.

Mmkay. Moving on. You were right, I was wrong. Happy?

[DOT]

Jags signed Jourdan Lewis for 3 years, $30 million ($20 million guaranteed)

Seems a bit weird, like he's a slot guy and Jarrian Jones who's already on the roster was a good slot CB for us last year as a rookie. I guess they want him to play outside now?

Plus, Lewis is 29, so he's not really young anymore. He seems like a good player and it's not a ton of money, just kinda underwhelming as a first signing.

[Cactus Jack]

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[hermes]

jack, nothing shows up when i go to those links. did they all get deleted?

[bluejerseyjinx]

They'll probably sign Darold as a short-term stopgap. But reshaping the roster was necessary if they planned on competing long-term. Now they have the opportunity to reset & build a roster properly.

That would undo much of the moves, Darnold is not going to give you anything except for worse picks and take up cap space. Use your cap and high picks next draft to build your line and defense, then see which quarterback available next year.

I'd be fine with a cheaper option like Cousins on a 1- or 2-year deal. But I think they prefer Darnold. He's a better fit with Kubiak.

Another bridge QB for another bridge QB. WTF. Your GM should be fired if this is the chosen path. My Lord.

[Cactus Jack]

I'd be fine with a cheaper option like Cousins on a 1- or 2-year deal. But I think they prefer Darnold. He's a better fit with Kubiak.

Another bridge QB for another bridge QB. WTF. Your GM should be fired if this is the chosen path. My Lord.

This QB draft class sucks. Not a ton of great options tbh. But they didn't want to commit to Geno long-term.

[Jaydubb]

Happy?

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He’s a stud but yeah I figured he’d be gone. Will be interesting to see him play full time but a snap to snap basis he was among the best statistically

[bluejerseyjinx]

I'd be fine with a cheaper option like Cousins on a 1- or 2-year deal. But I think they prefer Darnold. He's a better fit with Kubiak.

Another bridge QB for another bridge QB. WTF. Your GM should be fired if this is the chosen path. My Lord.

This QB draft class sucks. Not a ton of great options tbh. But they didn't want to commit to Geno long-term.

You've had 3 years to come up with Geno's replacement. This is the plan now?

[Cactus Jack]

Another bridge QB for another bridge QB. WTF. Your GM should be fired if this is the chosen path. My Lord.

This QB draft class sucks. Not a ton of great options tbh. But they didn't want to commit to Geno long-term.

You've had 3 years to come up with Geno's replacement. This is the plan now?

It's why I wanted to move on from Carroll earlier. Geno was his guy. He wasn't interested in going with someone younger. It set them back.

They would've taken a QB last year had one been available to them.

[bluejerseyjinx]

This QB draft class sucks. Not a ton of great options tbh. But they didn't want to commit to Geno long-term.

You've had 3 years to come up with Geno's replacement. This is the plan now?

It's why I wanted to move on from Carroll earlier. Geno was his guy. He wasn't interested in starting a younger guy.

They would've taken a QB last year had one been available to them.

The long lasting effect of Pete Carroll. My crystal ball is telling me you guys will struggle tremendously this season. Geno gone, Metcalf gone so lets bring in Cousins.

[Cactus Jack]

You've had 3 years to come up with Geno's replacement. This is the plan now?

It's why I wanted to move on from Carroll earlier. Geno was his guy. He wasn't interested in starting a younger guy.

They would've taken a QB last year had one been available to them.

The long lasting effect of Pete Carroll. My crystal ball is telling me you guys will struggle tremendously this season. Geno gone, Metcalf gone so lets bring in Cousins.

Short-term? Probably. But they'll likely be better off in the long run for it. Geno & Dk wasn't getting them over the top anyway. So, might as well blow it up & start over.

[Cactus Jack]

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[bluejerseyjinx]

It's why I wanted to move on from Carroll earlier. Geno was his guy. He wasn't interested in starting a younger guy.

They would've taken a QB last year had one been available to them.

The long lasting effect of Pete Carroll. My crystal ball is telling me you guys will struggle tremendously this season. Geno gone, Metcalf gone so lets bring in Cousins.

Short-term? Probably. But they'll likely be better off in the long run for it.

You been saying that since Geno's second year.