Mike mccarthy hoodwinked cowboys into the job

[Micah Prescott]

Jerry is the ONLY owner who is also the GM. At least he gave himself the title of general manager. So yes, it is quite unique.

Robert Kraft is involved. But Belichick pretty much ran the Football side of things. Kraft wasn't making those decisions.

Fwiw Paul Allen would often attend games in person. But he very rarely would be around the team facility. He was very hands off as an owner. He hired people to run the organization & took a backseat. His sister has since run the team in the same manner. That's typically how it works with only a few exceptions.

Bengals Mike Brown is GM but there are hands on owners that just don't give themselves the title "GM".

Titles can be misleading....Linda Yaccarino is the CEO of Twitter but we all know who's really calling the shots

lol what are we debating here? It's not the norm. Can we agree on that?

Having the official title "GM" is only Jerry and Mike Brown.

But owners that are "involved" ? Yeah I think it's normal.

[bluejerseyjinx]

They got extremely lucky that the Broncos outbid Jerry for Paxton Lynch.

And then wanted to back that up with Johnny Manziel.

If it is true that Jerry wanted Manziel and Stephen wouldn't allow it?

Then Stephen is the one in charge and has been for years now.

Which makes sense to me because that's what it's felt like for years now.

Does it really matter at this point? Jerry, Stephen. Since Jimmy was run out of the building its been a complete failure. The sample size is more than big enough.

[Micah Prescott]

And then wanted to back that up with Johnny Manziel.

If it is true that Jerry wanted Manziel and Stephen wouldn't allow it?

Then Stephen is the one in charge and has been for years now.

Which makes sense to me because that's what it's felt like for years now.

Does it really matter at this point? Jerry, Stephen. Since Jimmy was run out of the building its been a complete failure. The sample size is more than big enough.

After Jimmy left, Jerry drafted Larry Allen (rip) and signed top FA Deion Sanders, and won a ring two years later.

[Cactus Jack]

Bengals Mike Brown is GM but there are hands on owners that just don't give themselves the title "GM".

Titles can be misleading....Linda Yaccarino is the CEO of Twitter but we all know who's really calling the shots

lol what are we debating here? It's not the norm. Can we agree on that?

Having the official title "GM" is only Jerry and Mike Brown.

But owners that are "involved" ? Yeah I think it's normal.

But for the most part they're not making roster decisions. Finances? Sure. Most would have input. But teams hire outside experts to run those departments.

It's not typical practice for an owner of a team to also be the General manager. It just isn't.

[bluejerseyjinx]

If it is true that Jerry wanted Manziel and Stephen wouldn't allow it?

Then Stephen is the one in charge and has been for years now.

Which makes sense to me because that's what it's felt like for years now.

Does it really matter at this point? Jerry, Stephen. Since Jimmy was run out of the building its been a complete failure. The sample size is more than big enough.

After Jimmy left, Jerry drafted Larry Allen (rip) and signed top FA Deion Sanders, and won a ring two years later.

Stop it. The team was already built and loaded. Jerry Cost us 2 more super bowls. Sanders was here for the ride and to be kept away from the Niners. His contract was way too much and we couldn't keep Allen, Stepnoski and Gogan. Eventually had to let Emmitt go. The running game and offense was never the same. Allen went on to finish his hall of fame career with the Niners. The Sanders contract was the beginning of the end.

[Mariner]

I just remember the day they made it official in 2002. Then Jerry showed us his genius in the draft that year and took Quincy Carter with our first pick.

Don't forget Ryan Leaf.

They never drafted Leaf.
They just gave him a tryout and then released him.

[Mariner]

Does it really matter at this point? Jerry, Stephen. Since Jimmy was run out of the building its been a complete failure. The sample size is more than big enough.

After Jimmy left, Jerry drafted Larry Allen (rip) and signed top FA Deion Sanders, and won a ring two years later.

Stop it. The team was already built and loaded. Jerry Cost us 2 more super bowls. Sanders was here for the ride and to be kept away from the Niners. His contract was way too much and we couldn't keep Allen. He went on to have a hall of fame career with the Niners. The Sanders contract was the beginning of the end.

Allen was done when they let him go. He was 35. lol
Only played basically one year for the 49ers.

[Micah Prescott]

lol what are we debating here? It's not the norm. Can we agree on that?

Having the official title "GM" is only Jerry and Mike Brown.

But owners that are "involved" ? Yeah I think it's normal.

But for the most part they're not making roster decisions. Finances? Sure. Most would have input. But teams hire outside experts to run those departments.

It's not typical practice for an owner of a team to also be the General manager. It just isn't.

How would you know? Off the top of my head Jim lrsay, Arthur Blank, Dan Snyder all probably had just as much if not more input into their teams than Jerry. I'm sure Kraft as well.

In fact IIRC Snyder copied Jerry and signed Deion Sanders to the Redskins.


And that's just the owners in aware of, the lesser known owners? Who knows wtf they are saying and doing. They can do whatever they want to they own the team. Just because they didn't officially title themselves "GM" doesn't mean they aren't GMing.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Having the official title "GM" is only Jerry and Mike Brown.

But owners that are "involved" ? Yeah I think it's normal.

But for the most part they're not making roster decisions. Finances? Sure. Most would have input. But teams hire outside experts to run those departments.

It's not typical practice for an owner of a team to also be the General manager. It just isn't.

How would you know? Off the top of my head Jim lrsay, Arthur Blank, Dan Snyder all probably had just as much if not more input into their teams than Jerry. I'm sure Kraft as well.

In fact IIRC Snyder copied Jerry and signed Deion Sanders to the Redskins.


And that's just the owners in aware of, the lesser known owners? Who knows wtf they are saying and doing. They can do whatever they want to they own the team. Just because they didn't officially title themselves "GM" doesn't mean they aren't GMing.

As someone who has always lived in the middle of Patriot nation my whole life I can factual admit that Bill Belicheck was always in complete control and had final say in all things with the Patriots till things went sour between Brady and Bill. And as far as Irsay, Blank and Snyder, how did that all workout for them?

[Mariner]

But for the most part they're not making roster decisions. Finances? Sure. Most would have input. But teams hire outside experts to run those departments.

It's not typical practice for an owner of a team to also be the General manager. It just isn't.

How would you know? Off the top of my head Jim lrsay, Arthur Blank, Dan Snyder all probably had just as much if not more input into their teams than Jerry. I'm sure Kraft as well.

In fact IIRC Snyder copied Jerry and signed Deion Sanders to the Redskins.


And that's just the owners in aware of, the lesser known owners? Who knows wtf they are saying and doing. They can do whatever they want to they own the team. Just because they didn't officially title themselves "GM" doesn't mean they aren't GMing.

As someone who has always lived in the middle of Patriot nation my whole life I can factual admit that Bill Belicheck was always in complete control and had final say in all things with the Patriots till things went sour between Brady and Bill. And as far as Irsay, Blank and Snyder, how did that all workout for them?

Blank made it to the SB and lost in OT.
Irsay won a SB.
But that’s not the point. My point is that Jerry is not really the GM. Just like Biden is not the president now.
It’s the circle around them that controls everything.

[Mr B]

Most owners also don’t have an open door policy where players can go straight to him and bypass their coach if they have a problem. That immediately undermines the HC.

True.

Most owners are not involved in the day to day Football operations. A good majority are probably not even around the team facility most days. That's certainly been the case in Seattle.

We were talking about Jerry the GM, not Jerry the owner. And how involved Jerry is now as the GM. I would bet money most players around the league will go to the GM if they have an issue, that isn't undermining the coach, that is the GM's job.

There are also probably players that go directly to the owner, but sure there are some owners in the NFL that don't even know who their own players are so that is moot. But the ones that are involved? I mean do you think Tom Brady never came to Robert Kraft with anything?

Anyway, my overall point was that it isn't a case of Jerry Jones running everything and anything and everyone else is just a puppet in his little show. That is the implication that most want to give and it just isn't realistic.

That is definitely not a GM’s job to allow players to bypass their coach when they have a problem. At least that shouldn’t be their job. Their job should be to build the team, and manage contracts. All on the field issues should be handled by the coach in my opinion.

As for Bill, Bob, and Tom. I’ve read that the main reason Tom wanted out is because Bill would never lighten up. Bill wanted to continue to run a tight ship.

[C to the K]

And then wanted to back that up with Johnny Manziel.

If it is true that Jerry wanted Manziel and Stephen wouldn't allow it?

Then Stephen is the one in charge and has been for years now.

Which makes sense to me because that's what it's felt like for years now.

Does it really matter at this point? Jerry, Stephen. Since Jimmy was run out of the building its been a complete failure. The sample size is more than big enough.

Jimmy wasa a glorified dictator masquerading as a head coach

Dallas won in spite of him not because of him

[bluejerseyjinx]

Jerry must have had another sleep over with Mike. Its happening again.

[Mr B]

Jerry must have has another sleep over with Mike. Its happening again.

Get used to it. Looks like Jerry is planning a contract extension for MM. Obviously the way the Cowboys absolutely dominated Washington has convinced Jerry that he’s on the right track and MM is still the final piece to a SB win.

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[Mariner]

He had to answer like that.
What else could he say?

[Mr B]

He had to answer like that.
What else could he say?

I know, just trying to rile up the old man. Lol

[Mariner]

He had to answer like that.
What else could he say?

I know, just trying to rile up the old man. Lol

I support that! lol

[bluejerseyjinx]

I think the whole Jones family is in dire need of a intervention.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Jerry must have has another sleep over with Mike. Its happening again.

Get used to it. Looks like Jerry is planning a contract extension for MM. Obviously the way the Cowboys absolutely dominated Washington has convinced Jerry that he’s on the right track and MM is still the final piece to a SB win.

Read on Twitter

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Considering McCarthy was brought in 5 years ago to get the Cowboys over the playoff hump, makes perfect sense to bring him back.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Bill ain't coming. Time to resign Mikey boy !!! Can't wait till next year.