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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#61 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:55 pm

QB_Eagles wrote:
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QB_Eagles wrote:He has a $90 million cap hit for 2025. So just a little less than if the Jags traded Lawrence.

Again, not sure what this has to do with Dak.

He has the highest cap hit of any NFL player in 2025. It's so high, it's almost the same amount as the dead cap if the Jags traded Lawrence.

Jerry just needs to add more void years. No problem.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#62 » by Jaydubb » Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:09 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:
Mariner wrote:Again, not sure what this has to do with Dak.

He has the highest cap hit of any NFL player in 2025. It's so high, it's almost the same amount as the dead cap if the Jags traded Lawrence.

Jerry just needs to add more void years. No problem.

Apparently it’s not true anyway so it doesn’t matter. The cowboys don’t have to do anything, alls good.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#63 » by Mariner » Mon Feb 17, 2025 6:42 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
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Mariner wrote:Again, not sure what this has to do with Dak.

He has the highest cap hit of any NFL player in 2025. It's so high, it's almost the same amount as the dead cap if the Jags traded Lawrence.

Jerry just needs to add more void years. No problem.

The void years are already there. While yes there is a number now the truth is that Daks cap number is TBD.
Still not sure why Dak was mentioned in a Trevor Lawerence trade rumour.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#64 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Feb 17, 2025 6:54 pm

Mariner wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:He has the highest cap hit of any NFL player in 2025. It's so high, it's almost the same amount as the dead cap if the Jags traded Lawrence.

Jerry just needs to add more void years. No problem.

The void years are already there. While yes there is a number now the truth is that Daks cap number is TBD.
Still not sure why Dak was mentioned in a Trevor Lawerence trade rumour.

His contract will be restructured in all likelihood. Which pushes more dead money into the future. Void years or not. That's how these things work.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#65 » by Mariner » Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:24 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Mariner wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Jerry just needs to add more void years. No problem.

The void years are already there. While yes there is a number now the truth is that Daks cap number is TBD.
Still not sure why Dak was mentioned in a Trevor Lawerence trade rumour.

His contract will be restructured in all likelihood. Which pushes more dead money into the future. Void years or not. That's how these things work.

Of course. The money never disappears. lol
It will be interesting to see how much they push.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#66 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:17 am

Mariner wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:He has the highest cap hit of any NFL player in 2025. It's so high, it's almost the same amount as the dead cap if the Jags traded Lawrence.

Jerry just needs to add more void years. No problem.

The void years are already there. While yes there is a number now the truth is that Daks cap number is TBD.
Still not sure why Dak was mentioned in a Trevor Lawerence trade rumour.

Just to put the dead cap hit from an eventual Lawrence trade into perspective.

While it is a big amount, it's also very close to the 2025 cap hit of a mediocre QB.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#67 » by Mariner » Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:39 am

QB_Eagles wrote:
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Cactus Jack wrote:Jerry just needs to add more void years. No problem.

The void years are already there. While yes there is a number now the truth is that Daks cap number is TBD.
Still not sure why Dak was mentioned in a Trevor Lawerence trade rumour.

Just to put the dead cap hit from an eventual Lawrence trade into perspective.

While it is a big amount, it's also very close to the annual cap hit of a mediocre QB.

There’s no trade perspective from a cap number that has little chance of happening.
So there is no foundation to your discussion point.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#68 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:41 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
Mariner wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Jerry just needs to add more void years. No problem.

The void years are already there. While yes there is a number now the truth is that Daks cap number is TBD.
Still not sure why Dak was mentioned in a Trevor Lawerence trade rumour.

His contract will be restructured in all likelihood. Which pushes more dead money into the future. Void years or not. That's how these things work.

Dak already has these cap hits:
2025: 89.9M
2026: 67.7M
2027: 61.7M
2028: 71.7M
+ 4 void years

There isn't much left to push into the future on that contract, and each time they do it, they commit to Dak for a couple more years.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#69 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:44 am

Mariner wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:
Mariner wrote:The void years are already there. While yes there is a number now the truth is that Daks cap number is TBD.
Still not sure why Dak was mentioned in a Trevor Lawerence trade rumour.

Just to put the dead cap hit from an eventual Lawrence trade into perspective.

While it is a big amount, it's also very close to the annual cap hit of a mediocre QB.

There’s no trade perspective from a cap number that has little chance of happening.
So there is no foundation to your discussion point.

Just saying that the dead cap hit isn't what would prevent the trade.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#70 » by Mariner » Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:15 am

QB_Eagles wrote:
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QB_Eagles wrote:Just to put the dead cap hit from an eventual Lawrence trade into perspective.

While it is a big amount, it's also very close to the annual cap hit of a mediocre QB.

There’s no trade perspective from a cap number that has little chance of happening.
So there is no foundation to your discussion point.

Just saying that the dead cap hit isn't what would prevent the trade.

IMO it would. The jags would have to cut a lot of players to make this work.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#71 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:29 am

Mariner wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:
Mariner wrote:There’s no trade perspective from a cap number that has little chance of happening.
So there is no foundation to your discussion point.

Just saying that the dead cap hit isn't what would prevent the trade.

IMO it would. The jags would have to cut a lot of players to make this work.

Not necessarily. Of course they would do it as part of a rebuild. But the cap isn't the obstacle when it comes to this; it's the Jags' (un)willingness to trade him.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#72 » by Mariner » Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:37 am

QB_Eagles wrote:
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QB_Eagles wrote:Just saying that the dead cap hit isn't what would prevent the trade.

IMO it would. The jags would have to cut a lot of players to make this work.

Not necessarily. Of course they would do it as part of a rebuild. But the cap isn't the obstacle when it comes to this; it's the Jags' (un)willingness to trade him.

Well they don’t have a GM yet.
He also has a no trade clause and wants to stay in Jacksonville.
No much to do.
His dead money would be more than the two highest cap earners from last year combined.
Murray around 49 million
Stafford around 46 million.
Lawrence would be 100 million.
Without a QBs salary to manipulate how would the jags be cap compliant?
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#73 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:49 am

Mariner wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:
Mariner wrote:IMO it would. The jags would have to cut a lot of players to make this work.

Not necessarily. Of course they would do it as part of a rebuild. But the cap isn't the obstacle when it comes to this; it's the Jags' (un)willingness to trade him.

Well they don’t have a GM yet.
He also has a no trade clause and wants to stay in Jacksonville.
No much to do.
His dead money would be more than the two highest cap earners from last year combined.
Murray around 49 million
Stafford around 46 million.
Lawrence would be 100 million.
Without a QBs salary to manipulate how would the jags be cap compliant?

They got $30 million in cap.

Another $10 million from cutting Kirk.

They could use the Post June-1 designation on the trade to move the majority of the dead cap to 2026.

Like I said, a major rebuild, but not at all impossible.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#74 » by Mariner » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:05 am

QB_Eagles wrote:
Mariner wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:Not necessarily. Of course they would do it as part of a rebuild. But the cap isn't the obstacle when it comes to this; it's the Jags' (un)willingness to trade him.

Well they don’t have a GM yet.
He also has a no trade clause and wants to stay in Jacksonville.
No much to do.
His dead money would be more than the two highest cap earners from last year combined.
Murray around 49 million
Stafford around 46 million.
Lawrence would be 100 million.
Without a QBs salary to manipulate how would the jags be cap compliant?

They got $30 million in cap.

Another $10 million from cutting Kirk.

They could use the Post June-1 designation on the trade to move the majority of the dead cap to 2026.

Like I said, a major rebuild, but not at all impossible.

There are no post June-1 designation for trades.
Only releases so the player doesn’t have to wait till June to hit free agency. So the entire 100 million would have to be absorbed right away.
Just don’t see it.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#75 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:27 am

Mariner wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:
Mariner wrote:Well they don’t have a GM yet.
He also has a no trade clause and wants to stay in Jacksonville.
No much to do.
His dead money would be more than the two highest cap earners from last year combined.
Murray around 49 million
Stafford around 46 million.
Lawrence would be 100 million.
Without a QBs salary to manipulate how would the jags be cap compliant?

They got $30 million in cap.

Another $10 million from cutting Kirk.

They could use the Post June-1 designation on the trade to move the majority of the dead cap to 2026.

Like I said, a major rebuild, but not at all impossible.

There are no post June-1 designation for trades.
Only releases so the player doesn’t have to wait till June to hit free agency. So the entire 100 million would have to be absorbed right away.
Just don’t see it.

True, but two teams could just wait until June 1.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#76 » by Mariner » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:38 am

QB_Eagles wrote:
Mariner wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:They got $30 million in cap.

Another $10 million from cutting Kirk.

They could use the Post June-1 designation on the trade to move the majority of the dead cap to 2026.

Like I said, a major rebuild, but not at all impossible.

There are no post June-1 designation for trades.
Only releases so the player doesn’t have to wait till June to hit free agency. So the entire 100 million would have to be absorbed right away.
Just don’t see it.

True, but two teams could just wait until June 1.

After the draft and wait another year for the picks?
I admire your thinking outside the box rebuild.
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Post#78 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Mar 2, 2025 9:52 pm

I feel like Will Campbell at guard is pretty much just a lock to be a perennial All Pro guy from day 1.

Basically the only thing keeping him from being one of the best Tackle prospects in a long time is his arm length. The dude just flat out crushed the combine and is a top tier athlete. Just slide him to guard and the arm length no longer becomes an issue.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#79 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Mar 2, 2025 10:31 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:I feel like Will Campbell at guard is pretty much just a lock to be a perennial All Pro guy from day 1.

Basically the only thing keeping him from being one of the best Tackle prospects in a long time is his arm length. The dude just flat out crushed the combine and is a top tier athlete. Just slide him to guard and the arm length no longer becomes an issue.

Teams will view him as a Guard. 32-inch arms.
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Post#80 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Mar 2, 2025 11:38 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:I feel like Will Campbell at guard is pretty much just a lock to be a perennial All Pro guy from day 1.

Basically the only thing keeping him from being one of the best Tackle prospects in a long time is his arm length. The dude just flat out crushed the combine and is a top tier athlete. Just slide him to guard and the arm length no longer becomes an issue.

Teams will view him as a Guard. 32-inch arms.


Ya the arms will keep him from being a tackle. But his athleticism is truly freakish. Since 2010 the only OL who are as big as Campbell and matched his athletic testing are Tristan Wirfs and Trent Williams. And it’s not like Campbell is some raw athlete either, the dude is a technician.

Whoever drafts him, just slide him to guard and you got yourself the next Quenton Nelson. Huge freak athletic guard who you can just pencil in to make one of the All Pro teams every year

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