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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#601 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Mar 11, 2025 4:54 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Minnesota is throwing around cash it would seem. Jonathan Allen, Hargrave...

Will Fries just got a big time contract as well.

Allen and Hargrave on the D line. Fries and Kelly on the O Line.

Had the money to spend and I’m very happy with how they spent it. If only Kwesi wasn’t the worst drafting GM in the league…

I'd be worried about both of their Run defense grades. That could be an issue.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/javon-hargrave/10723

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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#602 » by hermes » Tue Mar 11, 2025 5:11 pm

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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#603 » by hermes » Tue Mar 11, 2025 5:14 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Minnesota is throwing around cash it would seem. Jonathan Allen, Hargrave...

Will Fries just got a big time contract as well.

Allen and Hargrave on the D line. Fries and Kelly on the O Line.

Had the money to spend and I’m very happy with how they spent it. If only Kwesi wasn’t the worst drafting GM in the league…

I'd be worried about both of their Run defense grades. That could be an issue.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/javon-hargrave/10723

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/jonathan-allen/11772

do you think because the eagles won, the whole league will start running the ball a lot more?
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#604 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Mar 11, 2025 5:29 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Minnesota is throwing around cash it would seem. Jonathan Allen, Hargrave...

Will Fries just got a big time contract as well.

Allen and Hargrave on the D line. Fries and Kelly on the O Line.

Had the money to spend and I’m very happy with how they spent it. If only Kwesi wasn’t the worst drafting GM in the league…

I'd be worried about both of their Run defense grades. That could be an issue.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/javon-hargrave/10723

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/jonathan-allen/11772


Not worried there. I mean we started Harrison Phillips and Jerry Tillery/Jalen Redmon as our starting interior D lineman last year and still had a top tier run defense. Phillips and Redmon are still on the team and wouldn’t be shocked if Tillery is back. So we can still trot out the same D line group as last year in obvious run situations of those two end up being too bad in those scenarios.

The huge issue was, none of those 3 guys on the roster last year were capable of providing any kind of pressure on the QB.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

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Post#607 » by Jaydubb » Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:49 pm

I’m traveling for a day and when I get to my destination I find out CJGJ has been traded.lol interesting. I’m just gonna assume Sydney brown will take his spot but I’m not sure I like that idea but I get it, gotta try to save money.

Seems like to me howie is bracing for the GINORMOUS contract extension he will give Jalen Carter next year.
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Post#611 » by RaoulDuke79 » Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:36 pm

Jaydubb wrote:I’m traveling for a day and when I get to my destination I find out CJGJ has been traded.lol interesting. I’m just gonna assume Sydney brown will take his spot but I’m not sure I like that idea but I get it, gotta try to save money.

Seems like to me howie is bracing for the GINORMOUS contract extension he will give Jalen Carter next year.


This one made me happy and I was surprised to get anything in exchange for Green. He's been a huge bust for the Texans which is a bummer - wouldn't be surprised if he turns it around in Philly though.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#612 » by wco81 » Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:48 pm

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Jaydubb wrote:I’m traveling for a day and when I get to my destination I find out CJGJ has been traded.lol interesting. I’m just gonna assume Sydney brown will take his spot but I’m not sure I like that idea but I get it, gotta try to save money.

Seems like to me howie is bracing for the GINORMOUS contract extension he will give Jalen Carter next year.


This one made me happy and I was surprised to get anything in exchange for Green. He's been a huge bust for the Texans which is a bummer - wouldn't be surprised if he turns it around in Philly though.


Bill Simmons had on guys who said that the OL coach at Philly is one of the best if not the best in the league.

He turned Malata and Bechton into great players and he may be able to do it with Green too.

They also said that colleges are no longer developing great OTs because of spread offenses and the OTs don't play like they would in the NFL. So the NFL has to develop and coach them up.

There are many more very good edge rushers than there are very good or great OTs who can pass block well.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#613 » by RaoulDuke79 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:03 am

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Jaydubb wrote:I’m traveling for a day and when I get to my destination I find out CJGJ has been traded.lol interesting. I’m just gonna assume Sydney brown will take his spot but I’m not sure I like that idea but I get it, gotta try to save money.

Seems like to me howie is bracing for the GINORMOUS contract extension he will give Jalen Carter next year.


This one made me happy and I was surprised to get anything in exchange for Green. He's been a huge bust for the Texans which is a bummer - wouldn't be surprised if he turns it around in Philly though.


Bill Simmons had on guys who said that the OL coach at Philly is one of the best if not the best in the league.

He turned Malata and Bechton into great players and he may be able to do it with Green too.

They also said that colleges are no longer developing great OTs because of spread offenses and the OTs don't play like they would in the NFL. So the NFL has to develop and coach them up.

There are many more very good edge rushers than there are very good or great OTs who can pass block well.


He was awful run blocking as well which I thought would be his strength - but by all accounts he works hard(came into camp last year in great shape) and has the right character and still has potential if he's coached up properly, which obviously wasn't happening in Houston(hence the firing of both the O-Coordinator and O-Line coach, and now the rebuilding of the O-Line itself).

I hope he turns it around in Philly and like I said earlier it wouldn't surprise me too much.

I'm excited to see the Texans defense if they can remain healthy, that secondary is loaded...but I'm even more curious to see what they do with the line.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#615 » by Cactus Jack » Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:25 am

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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#616 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:14 am

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I won’t be shocked if Rypien ends up being the guy. Talk was he surpassed Mullens on the depth chart last year.

Also wouldn’t be shocked if Mac Jones doesn’t land anywhere soon, they might try and get him on a cheap backup deal.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#617 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:16 am

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Basically just replacing Von in the same role. And for a lot cheaper than Von was supposed to make this year.

Bosa on less than 13 mil is a damn good deal. They will keep his snap count low and try and keep him healthy.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#618 » by Jaydubb » Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:50 am

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Jaydubb wrote:I’m traveling for a day and when I get to my destination I find out CJGJ has been traded.lol interesting. I’m just gonna assume Sydney brown will take his spot but I’m not sure I like that idea but I get it, gotta try to save money.

Seems like to me howie is bracing for the GINORMOUS contract extension he will give Jalen Carter next year.


This one made me happy and I was surprised to get anything in exchange for Green. He's been a huge bust for the Texans which is a bummer - wouldn't be surprised if he turns it around in Philly though.

You’ll like CJGJ. He’s a fun guy to have on your team. He likes to talk **** and he backs it up. And he has a huge hit every few games or so. He does sometimes get beat deep but he will usually make it up somehow later in the game.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#619 » by Jaydubb » Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:58 am

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RaoulDuke79 wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:I’m traveling for a day and when I get to my destination I find out CJGJ has been traded.lol interesting. I’m just gonna assume Sydney brown will take his spot but I’m not sure I like that idea but I get it, gotta try to save money.

Seems like to me howie is bracing for the GINORMOUS contract extension he will give Jalen Carter next year.


This one made me happy and I was surprised to get anything in exchange for Green. He's been a huge bust for the Texans which is a bummer - wouldn't be surprised if he turns it around in Philly though.


Bill Simmons had on guys who said that the OL coach at Philly is one of the best if not the best in the league.

He turned Malata and Bechton into great players and he may be able to do it with Green too.

They also said that colleges are no longer developing great OTs because of spread offenses and the OTs don't play like they would in the NFL. So the NFL has to develop and coach them up.

There are many more very good edge rushers than there are very good or great OTs who can pass block well.

I’m an eagles fan so I am biased, but I think Jeff stoutland’s track record speaks for itself. He’s had a ton of success stories. Jordan mailata was one of the crazier ones, basically taking a huge athletic strong guy that’s literally never played American football before he was drafted and turning him into an all pro left tackle..lmao

I don’t know much about this green guy, but if stoutland has seen tape on the guy and more important, if stoutland WANTED howie roseman to get him then I’m confident that he will turn him into a somewhat serviceable player. How good that’ll be, who knows, but I can see him working out to some degree under stout. The only question I have is if green wants it or not. The players that fail under stoutland typically don’t want to succeed bad enough to put in the work. Mailata was a perfect prospect because he ate up everything stoutland would teach him.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#620 » by Jaydubb » Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:00 am

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This one made me happy and I was surprised to get anything in exchange for Green. He's been a huge bust for the Texans which is a bummer - wouldn't be surprised if he turns it around in Philly though.


Bill Simmons had on guys who said that the OL coach at Philly is one of the best if not the best in the league.

He turned Malata and Bechton into great players and he may be able to do it with Green too.

They also said that colleges are no longer developing great OTs because of spread offenses and the OTs don't play like they would in the NFL. So the NFL has to develop and coach them up.

There are many more very good edge rushers than there are very good or great OTs who can pass block well.


He was awful run blocking as well which I thought would be his strength - but by all accounts he works hard(came into camp last year in great shape) and has the right character and still has potential if he's coached up properly, which obviously wasn't happening in Houston(hence the firing of both the O-Coordinator and O-Line coach, and now the rebuilding of the O-Line itself).

I hope he turns it around in Philly and like I said earlier it wouldn't surprise me too much.

I'm excited to see the Texans defense if they can remain healthy, that secondary is loaded...but I'm even more curious to see what they do with the line.

This gives me hope then. If he’s coachable and willing to put in the work, I really think stoutland can turn him into a serviceable player.

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