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Post#641 » by Mr B » Tue Dec 31, 2024 1:35 pm

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Mr B wrote:So Shedeur Sanders and Cam Ward were hoping to get drafted and play out their careers in New York or Las Vegas but instead it’s looking like they’ll be getting drafted by Tennessee and Cleveland.

I think Shedeur is gonna pull an Eli.

Yea I’m sure his dad is going to throw a fit if he’s drafted by Cleveland or Tennessee.
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Mr B wrote:So Shedeur Sanders and Cam Ward were hoping to get drafted and play out their careers in New York or Las Vegas but instead it’s looking like they’ll be getting drafted by Tennessee and Cleveland.

Teams are probably better off bypassing both this year tbh.

I'm not a huge fan of Shedeur Sanders. I don't think he's worth the hype.

Cam Ward is intriguing as a prospect. But his playstyle is very chaotic. Jameis is who he kind of reminds me of on film. He could have a lot of turnover worthy plays.
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Post#643 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 5:31 pm

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Mr B wrote:So Shedeur Sanders and Cam Ward were hoping to get drafted and play out their careers in New York or Las Vegas but instead it’s looking like they’ll be getting drafted by Tennessee and Cleveland.

Teams are better off bypassing both this year tbh. Azcatz & I think Ward is going to be a disaster in the league. Sanders has bad habits of his own when you breakdown his film. I don't think either guy will be as valued by teams as the media portrays.

Agreed. Last year it was truly a stacked QB class (stacked offensive class).

This year though, it’s just one of those years where the media and some teams are going to try and convince themselves that there are legit QBs in this class. When in reality, there aren’t.

If either guy were in last year’s class, I don’t think either of them even go before Nix. So we’re talking 7th and 8th best QBs just a year removed. And to be clear when I say this, I’m not saying where they were last year, I’m saying if you time traveled both guys right now to last year they’re at best 6th, but most likely 7th and 8th.

I’m not wowed by either guy
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Post#644 » by Mr B » Tue Dec 31, 2024 5:36 pm

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Mr B wrote:So Shedeur Sanders and Cam Ward were hoping to get drafted and play out their careers in New York or Las Vegas but instead it’s looking like they’ll be getting drafted by Tennessee and Cleveland.

Teams are better off bypassing both this year tbh. Azcatz & I think Ward is going to be a disaster in the league. Sanders has bad habits of his own when you breakdown his film. I don't think either guy will be as valued by teams as the media portrays.

Should and would are 2 different things. Are either of these QB’s as good as some past QB prospects that were considered elite? Nope. Will that stop teams from drafting them in the top 5? Also nope. Both of these guys will be sure fire top 5 picks. There is no shortage of dumb NFL GM’s.
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Re: Week 17 games 

Post#645 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Dec 31, 2024 5:46 pm

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Mr B wrote:So Shedeur Sanders and Cam Ward were hoping to get drafted and play out their careers in New York or Las Vegas but instead it’s looking like they’ll be getting drafted by Tennessee and Cleveland.

Teams are better off bypassing both this year tbh. Azcatz & I think Ward is going to be a disaster in the league. Sanders has bad habits of his own when you breakdown his film. I don't think either guy will be as valued by teams as the media portrays.

Agreed. Last year it was truly a stacked QB class (stacked offensive class).

This year though, it’s just one of those years where the media and some teams are going to try and convince themselves that there are legit QBs in this class. When in reality, there aren’t.

If either guy were in last year’s class, I don’t think either of them even go before Nix. So we’re talking 7th and 8th best QBs just a year removed. And to be clear when I say this, I’m not saying where they were last year, I’m saying if you time traveled both guys right now to last year they’re at best 6th, but most likely 7th and 8th.

I’m not wowed by either guy

The one guy who's kind of being overlooked is Dillon Gabriel. It sucks he's a Duck. He's not going to be drafted early mainly due to his size, 3rd round, maybe? But he's my favorite out of this crop of QB's.
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Post#646 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 5:51 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Teams are better off bypassing both this year tbh. Azcatz & I think Ward is going to be a disaster in the league. Sanders has bad habits of his own when you breakdown his film. I don't think either guy will be as valued by teams as the media portrays.

Agreed. Last year it was truly a stacked QB class (stacked offensive class).

This year though, it’s just one of those years where the media and some teams are going to try and convince themselves that there are legit QBs in this class. When in reality, there aren’t.

If either guy were in last year’s class, I don’t think either of them even go before Nix. So we’re talking 7th and 8th best QBs just a year removed. And to be clear when I say this, I’m not saying where they were last year, I’m saying if you time traveled both guys right now to last year they’re at best 6th, but most likely 7th and 8th.

I’m not wowed by either guy

The one guy who's kind of being overlooked is Dillon Gabriel. It sucks he's a Duck. He's not going to be drafted early mainly due to his size, 3rd round, maybe? But he's my favorite out of this crop of QB's.


Ya the age and size are going against him. But I’ve been thinking to myself all year long watching Oregon. Is his game really all that different than Tua’s?

Similar size, similar compacted little left handed throwing motion. Not crazy arm talent, but plays well in the system and is very accurate.

I feel like he’s just an older Tua without the Bama hype machine. With that said, I’ve never been all that high on Tua and didn’t think he should’ve been a 1st round pick.
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Re: Week 17 games 

Post#647 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:16 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:The one guy who's kind of being overlooked is Dillon Gabriel. It sucks he's a Duck. He's not going to be drafted early mainly due to his size, 3rd round, maybe? But he's my favorite out of this crop of QB's.


Ya the age and size are going against him. But I’ve been thinking to myself all year long watching Oregon. Is his game really all that different than Tua’s?

Similar size, similar compacted little left handed throwing motion. Not crazy arm talent, but plays well in the system and is very accurate.

I feel like he’s just an older Tua without the Bama hype machine. With that said, I’ve never been all that high on Tua and didn’t think he should’ve been a 1st round pick.

Yeah, Tua is his comp for the most part.

Milroe really should stay in school. I'm not much of a fan of Ewers.
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Post#648 » by azcatz11 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:22 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:The one guy who's kind of being overlooked is Dillon Gabriel. It sucks he's a Duck. He's not going to be drafted early mainly due to his size, 3rd round, maybe? But he's my favorite out of this crop of QB's.


Ya the age and size are going against him. But I’ve been thinking to myself all year long watching Oregon. Is his game really all that different than Tua’s?

Similar size, similar compacted little left handed throwing motion. Not crazy arm talent, but plays well in the system and is very accurate.

I feel like he’s just an older Tua without the Bama hype machine. With that said, I’ve never been all that high on Tua and didn’t think he should’ve been a 1st round pick.

Yeah, Tua is his comp for the most part.

Milroe really should stay in school. I'm not much of a fan of Ewers.


Alabama is a disaster
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Post#649 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:26 pm

azcatz11 wrote:Alabama is a disaster

Why do you say that?
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Post#650 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:28 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:The one guy who's kind of being overlooked is Dillon Gabriel. It sucks he's a Duck. He's not going to be drafted early mainly due to his size, 3rd round, maybe? But he's my favorite out of this crop of QB's.


Ya the age and size are going against him. But I’ve been thinking to myself all year long watching Oregon. Is his game really all that different than Tua’s?

Similar size, similar compacted little left handed throwing motion. Not crazy arm talent, but plays well in the system and is very accurate.

I feel like he’s just an older Tua without the Bama hype machine. With that said, I’ve never been all that high on Tua and didn’t think he should’ve been a 1st round pick.

Yeah, Tua is his comp for the most part.

Milroe really should stay in school. I'm not much of a fan of Ewers.


Calling it now. If SF lets Purdy walk, they well pick up Gabriel. Feel like Shanahan can make it work pretty well with Gabriel.

And ya I get the intrigue with Milroe and his physical tools. But dude is just so far behind with the basics. And with what seems like teams willing to give up on 1st round QBs at a pretty quick rate lately. I think Milroe could just get chewed up and spitten out.

I think Ewers returns. I’m betting Riley offers him a huge NIL to head to USC. Riley needs his QBs with big arm talent. And Ewers can really use a year in a very QB friendly system to boost his draft stock.

Right now Ewers is just a QB with high level arm talent, but inconsistent everywhere else. Footwork is a mess, decision making is a mess, accuracy is a mess.
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Post#651 » by azcatz11 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:29 pm

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azcatz11 wrote:Alabama is a disaster

Why do you say that?


All of michigans good players aren’t even playing and down in the first half? Is this on Milroe? I’m coming in late
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Post#652 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:30 pm

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azcatz11 wrote:Alabama is a disaster

Why do you say that?


All of michigans good players aren’t even playing and down in the first half? Is this on Milroe? I’m coming in late

lol I forgot the game was today.
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Post#653 » by azcatz11 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:34 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Why do you say that?


All of michigans good players aren’t even playing and down in the first half? Is this on Milroe? I’m coming in late

lol I forgot the game was today.


Bama is back!!! Lol
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Post#654 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:44 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Calling it now. If SF lets Purdy walk, they well pick up Gabriel. Feel like Shanahan can make it work pretty well with Gabriel.

And ya I get the intrigue with Milroe and his physical tools. But dude is just so far behind with the basics. And with what seems like teams willing to give up on 1st round QBs at a pretty quick rate lately. I think Milroe could just get chewed up and spitten out.

I think Ewers returns. I’m betting Riley offers him a huge NIL to head to USC. Riley needs his QBs with big arm talent. And Ewers can really use a year in a very QB friendly system to boost his draft stock.

Right now Ewers is just a QB with high level arm talent, but inconsistent everywhere else. Footwork is a mess, decision making is a mess, accuracy is a mess.

I could see the Hawks being intrigued by him. Geno is only under contract for another year with an out. Sam Howell is not a long-term answer & not capable of starting. They have to figure out a solution soon.
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Post#655 » by Mr B » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:47 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
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Ya the age and size are going against him. But I’ve been thinking to myself all year long watching Oregon. Is his game really all that different than Tua’s?

Similar size, similar compacted little left handed throwing motion. Not crazy arm talent, but plays well in the system and is very accurate.

I feel like he’s just an older Tua without the Bama hype machine. With that said, I’ve never been all that high on Tua and didn’t think he should’ve been a 1st round pick.

Yeah, Tua is his comp for the most part.

Milroe really should stay in school. I'm not much of a fan of Ewers.


Calling it now. If SF lets Purdy walk, they well pick up Gabriel. Feel like Shanahan can make it work pretty well with Gabriel.

And ya I get the intrigue with Milroe and his physical tools. But dude is just so far behind with the basics. And with what seems like teams willing to give up on 1st round QBs at a pretty quick rate lately. I think Milroe could just get chewed up and spitten out.

I think Ewers returns. I’m betting Riley offers him a huge NIL to head to USC. Riley needs his QBs with big arm talent. And Ewers can really use a year in a very QB friendly system to boost his draft stock.

Right now Ewers is just a QB with high level arm talent, but inconsistent everywhere else. Footwork is a mess, decision making is a mess, accuracy is a mess.

Brock Purdy is likely getting $60M per season from the Niners.
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Post#656 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:56 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Yeah, Tua is his comp for the most part.

Milroe really should stay in school. I'm not much of a fan of Ewers.


Calling it now. If SF lets Purdy walk, they well pick up Gabriel. Feel like Shanahan can make it work pretty well with Gabriel.

And ya I get the intrigue with Milroe and his physical tools. But dude is just so far behind with the basics. And with what seems like teams willing to give up on 1st round QBs at a pretty quick rate lately. I think Milroe could just get chewed up and spitten out.

I think Ewers returns. I’m betting Riley offers him a huge NIL to head to USC. Riley needs his QBs with big arm talent. And Ewers can really use a year in a very QB friendly system to boost his draft stock.

Right now Ewers is just a QB with high level arm talent, but inconsistent everywhere else. Footwork is a mess, decision making is a mess, accuracy is a mess.

Brock Purdy is likely getting $60M per season from the Niners.

They shouldn't pay him that much. But they're not going to let him walk.
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Post#657 » by Mr B » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:19 pm

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Calling it now. If SF lets Purdy walk, they well pick up Gabriel. Feel like Shanahan can make it work pretty well with Gabriel.

And ya I get the intrigue with Milroe and his physical tools. But dude is just so far behind with the basics. And with what seems like teams willing to give up on 1st round QBs at a pretty quick rate lately. I think Milroe could just get chewed up and spitten out.

I think Ewers returns. I’m betting Riley offers him a huge NIL to head to USC. Riley needs his QBs with big arm talent. And Ewers can really use a year in a very QB friendly system to boost his draft stock.

Right now Ewers is just a QB with high level arm talent, but inconsistent everywhere else. Footwork is a mess, decision making is a mess, accuracy is a mess.

Brock Purdy is likely getting $60M per season from the Niners.

They shouldn't pay him that much. But they're not going to let him walk.

That’s the going rate for a pro bowl QB.
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Re: Week 17 games 

Post#658 » by bwgood77 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:35 pm

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Not all of us change teams like underwear every year. I'm just waiting for you to insert the Thunder into your bio once they beat the Celtics in the finals :lol:


Yeah, pretty weird that someone who's a fan of the Celtics, Tar Heels, St Louis Cardinals, Dallas Cowboys and Kansas City Chiefs is if fans should support their hometown teams.
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