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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#721 » by Worm Guts » Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:19 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:Just did a quick look at DJ’s 150 big board. I’m pretty sure Minnesota took the lowest rated guy out of all 1st round picks tonight…

lol I don't think Jackson is a horrible pick. They might've reached a little. But he'll be a solid Guard for you guys.


He was one of the guys on my “please no” list going into tonight haha.

Lower ceiling guy with big time questionable lateral quickness and agility. No doubt Ed Ingram has soured me on guys like this. But ya not a fan of this at all.

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Not that I had even heard of him before the draft, but the fact that he played left tackle last season gives me hope he knows how to work around any deficiencies in a lateral quickness/agility, since that is the OLine position that typically requires the most quickness and agility.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#722 » by Mariner » Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:23 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:The eagles did their annual irrelevant trade up to grab the guy they were going to get anyway. lol

When you have four 5th round picks, why not use one of them to guarantee that you get your guy? There’s no telling if another team would trade up with the chiefs or not if the eagles didn’t pick up the phone. I think not working the phones is a bad thing because “oh I didn’t expect that to happen” happens way more often than it should.

The 5th didn’t block any other trades.
It was just gifted. Anyway not a big deal.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#723 » by Jaydubb » Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:26 pm

Mariner wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:The eagles did their annual irrelevant trade up to grab the guy they were going to get anyway. lol

When you have four 5th round picks, why not use one of them to guarantee that you get your guy? There’s no telling if another team would trade up with the chiefs or not if the eagles didn’t pick up the phone. I think not working the phones is a bad thing because “oh I didn’t expect that to happen” happens way more often than it should.

The 5th didn’t block any other trades.
It was just gifted. Anyway not a big deal.

Please cite your sources. Thanks.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#724 » by Mariner » Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:38 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:When you have four 5th round picks, why not use one of them to guarantee that you get your guy? There’s no telling if another team would trade up with the chiefs or not if the eagles didn’t pick up the phone. I think not working the phones is a bad thing because “oh I didn’t expect that to happen” happens way more often than it should.

The 5th didn’t block any other trades.
It was just gifted. Anyway not a big deal.

Please cite your sources. Thanks.

I had this same discussion last year with last stand. lol
Teams that are drafting ahead of the eagles are asking for late picks to swap and the eagles are falling for it.
It’s just common sense that a 5th doesn’t block anything. If another team offered a second or a future first that 5th would have been meaningless and not blocked anything.
We can save this convo for next year when it happens again.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#725 » by Jaydubb » Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:39 pm

Still to be determined if Shedeur’s rookie contract can even cover all this.. might have to take out a loan from daddy lolll

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2025 Draft thread 

Post#726 » by Jaydubb » Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:41 pm

Mariner wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:The 5th didn’t block any other trades.
It was just gifted. Anyway not a big deal.

Please cite your sources. Thanks.

I had this same discussion last year with last stand. lol
Teams that are drafting ahead of the eagles are asking for late picks to swap and the eagles are falling for it.
It’s just common sense that a 5th doesn’t block anything. If another team offered a second or a future first that 5th would have been meaningless and not blocked anything.
We can save this convo for next year when it happens again.

“Common sense”

Ok so no sources. I see.

Also how you gonna fault Philly for trading a 5th and then in the same sentence say a 5th is meaningless.. kinda weird
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#727 » by Mariner » Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:51 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:Please cite your sources. Thanks.

I had this same discussion last year with last stand. lol
Teams that are drafting ahead of the eagles are asking for late picks to swap and the eagles are falling for it.
It’s just common sense that a 5th doesn’t block anything. If another team offered a second or a future first that 5th would have been meaningless and not blocked anything.
We can save this convo for next year when it happens again.

“Common sense”

Ok so no sources. I see.

Also how you gonna fault Philly for trading a 5th and then in the same sentence say a 5th is meaningless.. kinda weird

It was a mistake but not a big one if that makes you feel better.
A 5th is not a big deal but at the same time it shouldn’t be gifted.
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2025 Draft thread 

Post#728 » by Jaydubb » Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:59 pm

Mariner wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:I had this same discussion last year with last stand. lol
Teams that are drafting ahead of the eagles are asking for late picks to swap and the eagles are falling for it.
It’s just common sense that a 5th doesn’t block anything. If another team offered a second or a future first that 5th would have been meaningless and not blocked anything.
We can save this convo for next year when it happens again.

“Common sense”

Ok so no sources. I see.

Also how you gonna fault Philly for trading a 5th and then in the same sentence say a 5th is meaningless.. kinda weird

It was a mistake but not a big one if that makes you feel better.
A 5th is not a big deal but at the same time it shouldn’t be gifted.

The trade was made almost immediately as the chiefs got on the clock. You don’t know what would’ve happened as that clock was winding down. Same with Jalen Carter when you thought trading a 5th round pick for all pro Super Bowl champion Jalen Carter was a bad move. A very late 5th round pick to guarantee that another team doesn’t come in later with a better offer is not a mistake. Not making that trade and then risk getting jumped and losing the guy the eagles always wanted is just plain dumb. Like you’ve said, a 5th is meaningless and the eagles have 4 of them anyway.lol

The chiefs have been rumored to be trading back all throughout the draft process, it’s really not beyond the realm of possibilities that another team would want to trade up to get a player on a 5th year option.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#729 » by Mariner » Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:09 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:“Common sense”

Ok so no sources. I see.

Also how you gonna fault Philly for trading a 5th and then in the same sentence say a 5th is meaningless.. kinda weird

It was a mistake but not a big one if that makes you feel better.
A 5th is not a big deal but at the same time it shouldn’t be gifted.

The trade was made almost immediately as the chiefs got on the clock. You don’t know what would’ve happened as that clock was winding down. Same with Jalen Carter when you thought trading a 5th round pick for all pro Super Bowl champion Jalen Carter was a bad move. A very late 5th round pick to guarantee that another team doesn’t come in later with a better offer is not a mistake. Not making that trade and then risk getting jumped and losing the guy the eagles always wanted is just plain dumb. Like you’ve said, a 5th is meaningless and the eagles have 4 of them anyway.lol

The chiefs have been rumored to be trading back all throughout the draft process, it’s really not beyond the realm of possibilities that another team would want to trade up to get a player on a 5th year option.

It was heavily rumoured that the chiefs wanted Simmons. If the chiefs were considering moving back a 5th would not of changed their mind. Most of these deals and contingency plans are done prior to the draft.
Anyway we can talk about this next year when the eagles do it again.
The eagles did get good value again. Like Carter you should be happy.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#730 » by Jaydubb » Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:12 pm

Mariner wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:It was a mistake but not a big one if that makes you feel better.
A 5th is not a big deal but at the same time it shouldn’t be gifted.

The trade was made almost immediately as the chiefs got on the clock. You don’t know what would’ve happened as that clock was winding down. Same with Jalen Carter when you thought trading a 5th round pick for all pro Super Bowl champion Jalen Carter was a bad move. A very late 5th round pick to guarantee that another team doesn’t come in later with a better offer is not a mistake. Not making that trade and then risk getting jumped and losing the guy the eagles always wanted is just plain dumb. Like you’ve said, a 5th is meaningless and the eagles have 4 of them anyway.lol

The chiefs have been rumored to be trading back all throughout the draft process, it’s really not beyond the realm of possibilities that another team would want to trade up to get a player on a 5th year option.

It was heavily rumoured that the chiefs wanted Simmons. If the chiefs were considering moving back a 5th would not of changed their mind. Most of these deals and contingency plans are done prior to the draft.
Anyway we can talk about this next year when the eagles do it again.
The eagles did get good value again. Like Carter you should be happy.

For some reason you fail to understand that a team can come in later as the clock is winding down with a higher offer than a 5th. Like I said, the trade was made almost as soon as the chiefs got on the clock. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen a draft war room but they actually do have phones in there.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#731 » by Jaydubb » Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:16 pm

Let me ask you this mariner, do you think the eagles miss that 5th round pick that they traded for Jalen Carter?

Maybe we should start a poll and ask people if they would trade a 5th round pick for Jalen Carter. There would probably be only one answer of “no”
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#732 » by Mariner » Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:19 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:The trade was made almost immediately as the chiefs got on the clock. You don’t know what would’ve happened as that clock was winding down. Same with Jalen Carter when you thought trading a 5th round pick for all pro Super Bowl champion Jalen Carter was a bad move. A very late 5th round pick to guarantee that another team doesn’t come in later with a better offer is not a mistake. Not making that trade and then risk getting jumped and losing the guy the eagles always wanted is just plain dumb. Like you’ve said, a 5th is meaningless and the eagles have 4 of them anyway.lol

The chiefs have been rumored to be trading back all throughout the draft process, it’s really not beyond the realm of possibilities that another team would want to trade up to get a player on a 5th year option.

It was heavily rumoured that the chiefs wanted Simmons. If the chiefs were considering moving back a 5th would not of changed their mind. Most of these deals and contingency plans are done prior to the draft.
Anyway we can talk about this next year when the eagles do it again.
The eagles did get good value again. Like Carter you should be happy.

For some reason you fail to understand that a team can come in later as the clock is winding down with a higher offer than a 5th. Like I said, the trade was made almost as soon as the chiefs got on the clock. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen a draft war room but they actually do have phones in there.

Everything you said was exactly what the chiefs were counting on and hoping what the eagles were thinking.
That’s why they got a free 5th rounder.
I’m sure the chiefs war room all got a good laugh.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#733 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:19 pm

Jaydubb wrote:Still to be determined if Shedeur’s rookie contract can even cover all this.. might have to take out a loan from daddy lolll

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Embarrassing

I wonder how many teams tried to work trades when Sanders fell to them only to hear crickets in return.
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Post#734 » by Mr B » Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:24 pm

I have to say that I’m pretty happy the Cowboys picked Tyler Booker. They needed to improve in the tranches and they’ve done just that. Not sure how it’s all going to shake out but if the middle of the Cowboys OL is Smith/Beebe/Booker that’s pretty formidable. Dak should have a lot of clean pockets to throw from. Now where that pass goes I have no idea but the pocket should be clean.

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Post#735 » by Jaydubb » Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:26 pm

Mariner wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:It was heavily rumoured that the chiefs wanted Simmons. If the chiefs were considering moving back a 5th would not of changed their mind. Most of these deals and contingency plans are done prior to the draft.
Anyway we can talk about this next year when the eagles do it again.
The eagles did get good value again. Like Carter you should be happy.

For some reason you fail to understand that a team can come in later as the clock is winding down with a higher offer than a 5th. Like I said, the trade was made almost as soon as the chiefs got on the clock. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen a draft war room but they actually do have phones in there.

Everything you said was exactly what the chiefs were counting on and hoping what the eagles were thinking.
That’s why they got a free 5th rounder.
I’m sure the chiefs war room all got a good laugh.

You have no sources so to keep making statements like this like it’s a fact is kinda insane..

But whatever, we can agree to disagree I guess.lol
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Post#736 » by Mariner » Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:38 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:For some reason you fail to understand that a team can come in later as the clock is winding down with a higher offer than a 5th. Like I said, the trade was made almost as soon as the chiefs got on the clock. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen a draft war room but they actually do have phones in there.

Everything you said was exactly what the chiefs were counting on and hoping what the eagles were thinking.
That’s why they got a free 5th rounder.
I’m sure the chiefs war room all got a good laugh.

You have no sources so to keep making statements like this like it’s a fact is kinda insane..

But whatever, we can agree to disagree I guess.lol

We both don’t have sources.
The chiefs GM did say after the draft that he intended to draft Simmons all along. But even that doesn’t mean much.
Like I said though the eagles keep drafting well stockpiling an already good defense.
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Post#737 » by Jaydubb » Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:39 pm

Mr B wrote:I have to say that I’m pretty happy the Cowboys picked Tyler Booker. They needed to improve in the tranches and they’ve done just that. Not sure how it’s all going to shake out but if the middle of the Cowboys OL is Smith/Beebe/Booker that’s pretty formidable. Dak should have a lot of clean pockets to throw from. Now where that pass goes I have no idea but the pocket should be clean.

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I think it was a good pick. I think he will be one of the better run blocking OGs on day one. I was wondering if the eagles wanted him but his athletic scores being so low would probably disqualify him because Jeff stoutland usually likes his OL to be able to pull and get to their spots fast. But if booker goes to the right scheme, that won’t matter too much. Now put a talented RB behind him and it’s an easy 1,000+ rusher
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#738 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:02 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
Mr B wrote:I have to say that I’m pretty happy the Cowboys picked Tyler Booker. They needed to improve in the tranches and they’ve done just that. Not sure how it’s all going to shake out but if the middle of the Cowboys OL is Smith/Beebe/Booker that’s pretty formidable. Dak should have a lot of clean pockets to throw from. Now where that pass goes I have no idea but the pocket should be clean.

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I think it was a good pick. I think he will be one of the better run blocking OGs on day one. I was wondering if the eagles wanted him but his athletic scores being so low would probably disqualify him because Jeff stoutland usually likes his OL to be able to pull and get to their spots fast. But if booker goes to the right scheme, that won’t matter too much. Now put a talented RB behind him and it’s an easy 1,000+ rusher

Booker is not a great fit for teams that primarily run outside zone. That's why I'm surprised he went before Zabel. But he'll be a good player.
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Re: 2025 Draft thread 

Post#739 » by Jaydubb » Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:02 pm

Mariner wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mariner wrote:Everything you said was exactly what the chiefs were counting on and hoping what the eagles were thinking.
That’s why they got a free 5th rounder.
I’m sure the chiefs war room all got a good laugh.

You have no sources so to keep making statements like this like it’s a fact is kinda insane..

But whatever, we can agree to disagree I guess.lol

We both don’t have sources.
The chiefs GM did say after the draft that he intended to draft Simmons all along. But even that doesn’t mean much.
Like I said though the eagles keep drafting well stockpiling an already good defense.

I never gave any definitive statements like you did. In fact, all my statements were based on not knowing what would happen if the eagles didn’t trade up. That’s the whole point, you don’t know if another team would’ve called the chiefs as that clock was winding down.
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Post#740 » by Jaydubb » Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:06 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mr B wrote:I have to say that I’m pretty happy the Cowboys picked Tyler Booker. They needed to improve in the tranches and they’ve done just that. Not sure how it’s all going to shake out but if the middle of the Cowboys OL is Smith/Beebe/Booker that’s pretty formidable. Dak should have a lot of clean pockets to throw from. Now where that pass goes I have no idea but the pocket should be clean.

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I think it was a good pick. I think he will be one of the better run blocking OGs on day one. I was wondering if the eagles wanted him but his athletic scores being so low would probably disqualify him because Jeff stoutland usually likes his OL to be able to pull and get to their spots fast. But if booker goes to the right scheme, that won’t matter too much. Now put a talented RB behind him and it’s an easy 1,000+ rusher

Booker is not a great fit for teams that primarily run outside zone. That's why I'm surprised he went before Zabel. But he'll be a good player.

And Seattle runs that a lot so it seems like a great fit.lol

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