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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#901 » by Cactus Jack » Wed May 7, 2025 1:00 pm

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Mr B wrote:Well there’s the Cowboys’ WR2. I know he comes with some headaches though. I also know he’s super talented. I like this move more than the team signing Amari Cooper or one of the other older free agent WR’s.

Overall the Cowboys have had a good off season. They have filled quite a few of the holes they had going into the off season. So once again, Jerry has given the team no excuses. Let’s see what they do with it.

Pickens is a major headcase.

Yeah, he's talented. But Pittsburgh doesn't want to keep him around for a reason.

The Cowboys haven't had this type of divisive personality probably since Terrell Owens.

Given they've acquired Metcalf, this is a good move by the Steelers. A massive gamble for Dallas. Not just on the field but also in that locker room.

True, Pickens is a head case. If he plays like Owens though the Cowboys are going to be pretty good this year. At least during the regular season they will be.

lol this type of move rarely works out for the team who acquires the player. Someone with his volatile personality.

If I was a Cowboy fan, I would temper my expectations.

There are major red flags with this dude. Especially when a coach like Tomlin decides to move on from him.


"He's just got to grow up, man," Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said after the win over the Bengals. "This is an emotional game, man. These divisional games are big. He's got a target on his back because he's George; he understands that. But he's got to grow up. He's got to grow up in a hurry."
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#902 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed May 7, 2025 1:20 pm

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Cowboys got an extremely talented WR that is nothing but a total head case and cancer to a locker room. Good luck. Time for some super bowl talk now !!!!!
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#903 » by Cactus Jack » Wed May 7, 2025 1:22 pm

Well, at least Bjj see's the light lol
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#904 » by Mr B » Wed May 7, 2025 1:28 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:Well, at least Bjj see's the light lol

Trust me, no one is getting their hopes up. We all know what this team is. We’ve seen this show for 30 years. All I’m saying is I like the WR room for the Cowboys much more than I did yesterday.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#905 » by Mariner » Wed May 7, 2025 1:33 pm

The reason I say it’s no gamble is because the cowboys really have nothing to lose.
The worst that could happen is that they lose a third and waste a year. Had they done nothing the year was wasted anyway. Lots of upside with not much downside honestly.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#906 » by Mamba Mentality » Wed May 7, 2025 1:39 pm

Let's be real here, if Tomlin couldn't rein in Pickens a rookie coach sure as hell isn't going to either. Fully expecting fireworks by the midway point of the season.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#907 » by Cactus Jack » Wed May 7, 2025 1:42 pm

Well, they won't win with him either. I'm pretty steadfast in my belief that you don't win with guys like him on your team.

He'll make some exciting plays for you. But will put himself first before the team & won't show up when it matters most.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#908 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed May 7, 2025 1:48 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:Well, they won't win with him either. I'm pretty steadfast in my belief that you don't win with guys like him on your team.

He'll make some exciting plays for you. But will put himself first before the team & won't show up when it matters most.


At which point he becomes someone else’s problem and the Cowboys take the comp pick and move on.

Not much downside on this one for me, Jack.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#909 » by Mariner » Wed May 7, 2025 1:51 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:Well, they won't win with him either. I'm pretty steadfast in my belief that you don't win with guys like him on your team.

He'll make some exciting plays for you. But will put himself first before the team & won't show up when it matters most.

Maybe he doesn’t want a second team to dump him?
Maybe he behaves for a year?
If you’re right then we wasted 3.5 million and probably get our third rounder back in a comp pick when someone else signs him in free agency.
Not much downside.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#910 » by Mariner » Wed May 7, 2025 1:52 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Well, they won't win with him either. I'm pretty steadfast in my belief that you don't win with guys like him on your team.

He'll make some exciting plays for you. But will put himself first before the team & won't show up when it matters most.


At which point he becomes someone else’s problem and the Cowboys take the comp pick and move on.

Not much downside on this one for me, Jack.

I just wrote the same thing. lol
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#911 » by Cactus Jack » Wed May 7, 2025 1:55 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Well, they won't win with him either. I'm pretty steadfast in my belief that you don't win with guys like him on your team.

He'll make some exciting plays for you. But will put himself first before the team & won't show up when it matters most.


At which point he becomes someone else’s problem and the Cowboys take the comp pick and move on.

Not much downside on this one for me, Jack.

That's the other downside to this deal, he wants to get paid.

So, you either pay him or he goes off the deep end. :wink:
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#912 » by Mamba Mentality » Wed May 7, 2025 1:55 pm

atleast Jerry Jones is learning from his mistakes, I die everytime I think about the 4th rounder for Jonathan Mingo
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#913 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed May 7, 2025 2:04 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Well, they won't win with him either. I'm pretty steadfast in my belief that you don't win with guys like him on your team.

He'll make some exciting plays for you. But will put himself first before the team & won't show up when it matters most.


At which point he becomes someone else’s problem and the Cowboys take the comp pick and move on.

Not much downside on this one for me, Jack.


I just wrote the same thing. lol


I mean - the ONLY downside for me is if Jerrah does something stupid and gives him a deal prior to the end of the season. And we know for sure that old ****** is very capable of doing that.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#914 » by Mariner » Wed May 7, 2025 2:07 pm

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At which point he becomes someone else’s problem and the Cowboys take the comp pick and move on.

Not much downside on this one for me, Jack.


I just wrote the same thing. lol


I mean - the ONLY downside for me is if Jerrah does something stupid and gives him a deal prior to the end of the season. And we know for sure that old ****** is very capable of doing that.

Right now though it’s basically a third and 3.5 million in guaranteed money. Cactus is trying to turn this into the Desean Watson trade.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#915 » by Cactus Jack » Wed May 7, 2025 2:22 pm

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I just wrote the same thing. lol


I mean - the ONLY downside for me is if Jerrah does something stupid and gives him a deal prior to the end of the season. And we know for sure that old ****** is very capable of doing that.

Right now though it’s basically a third and 3.5 million in guaranteed money. Cactus is trying to turn this into the Desean Watson trade.

The cost isn't the issue. Giving up a 3rd is not an overpay. The issue is the personality of the player that you're adding to the locker room. I just don't buy that it's a good move long-term for them.

If he doesn't get a new deal, then he'll stir up drama. He's also not the type of guy that you necessarily want to commit to either.

Fwiw I'd have the same opinion if the Hawks made this move. I just don't like it from all angles.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#916 » by Mariner » Wed May 7, 2025 2:27 pm

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I mean - the ONLY downside for me is if Jerrah does something stupid and gives him a deal prior to the end of the season. And we know for sure that old ****** is very capable of doing that.

Right now though it’s basically a third and 3.5 million in guaranteed money. Cactus is trying to turn this into the Desean Watson trade.

The cost isn't the issue. Giving up a 3rd is not an overpay. The issue is the personality of the player that you're adding to the locker room. I just don't buy that it's a good move long-term for them.

If he doesn't get a new deal, then he'll stir up drama. He's also not the type of guy that you necessarily want to commit to either.

Fwiw I'd have the same opinion if the Hawks made this move. I just don't like it from all angles.

I still like it more than the Mingo deal. lol
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#917 » by Jaydubb » Wed May 7, 2025 2:37 pm

Mike Tomlin found a sucker to actually give them decent value for Pickens. lol

Now we will see if Pickens actually agrees to play before accepting a $30mill/year contract
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#918 » by Mr B » Wed May 7, 2025 5:41 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:Well, they won't win with him either. I'm pretty steadfast in my belief that you don't win with guys like him on your team.

He'll make some exciting plays for you. But will put himself first before the team & won't show up when it matters most.

Cowboys, Chiefs, and Patriots would beg to differ. All won multiple titles with guys like him. They can’t ALL be choir boys.

Now don’t twist that as saying I’m predicting multiple SB’s lol. Just saying you absolutely can win with guys like him and it’s been done numerous times before.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#919 » by Mr B » Wed May 7, 2025 5:58 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Well, they won't win with him either. I'm pretty steadfast in my belief that you don't win with guys like him on your team.

He'll make some exciting plays for you. But will put himself first before the team & won't show up when it matters most.

Maybe he doesn’t want a second team to dump him?
Maybe he behaves for a year?
If you’re right then we wasted 3.5 million and probably get our third rounder back in a comp pick when someone else signs him in free agency.
Not much downside.

Hey buddy, did you read the rules? There is to be no talk about any situation that might positively affect the Cowboys.

Here’s the thing, he’s in a contract year and has said he doesn’t want an extension yet because he wants to prove himself. If he can behave himself for 1 season he will end up getting paid like a #1. Either by the Cowboys or someone else.

Dak will be by far the best QB he’s ever played with. Also playing opposite CeeDee he shouldn’t see many double teams. So if he can keep his head out of his ass for 1 season he will put up good numbers.

If that happens I could see the Cowboys placing the franchise tag on him in order to trade him.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#920 » by Mr B » Wed May 7, 2025 6:01 pm

Jaydubb wrote:Mike Tomlin found a sucker to actually give them decent value for Pickens. lol

Now we will see if Pickens actually agrees to play before accepting a $30mill/year contract

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