Did Andrew Luck make the wrong decision?

rambo123 · Post #1 » by **rambo123** » Thu Jan 6, 2011 10:15 pm

http://whotheman.com/blog/368594/Wise-or-Ill-Advised--Luck-Stays-in-School

I say no as well

cochiseuofm · Post #2 » by **cochiseuofm** » Thu Jan 6, 2011 10:22 pm

I think he did...college is fun, but the ultimate goal of college is to find a career that, hopefully, pays well. Luck was almost 100% going to go first overall and these days that means a $70 million dollar payday. Once the new CBA sets in, there could be a rookie scale and he could be looking at $15 million.

I mean just look at very recent history. Matt Leinart stayed in school and went from a top-three pick to end of the first round. Sam Bradford stayed in school and got injured. Even though his draft stock eventually recovered, it was an unnecessary risk which I am sure he didn't enjoy going through.

Sure Luck could make a ton of money still if he plays well, but I just don't think it is smart to potentially leave that much money on the table for a year of college.

Bleeding Blue · Post #3 » by **Bleeding Blue** » Thu Jan 6, 2011 11:17 pm

^^^^I think even if he went this year he would still get paid based on the new CBA, which means no 60 million dollar payday. Probably more like 30ish with the new pay scale from what I have heard. With that said he still made the wrong choice. Walking away from that money is just silly. Hopefully it works out though.

Roger Murdock · Post #4 » by **Roger Murdock** » Thu Jan 6, 2011 11:39 pm

Its a terrible terrible terrible decision. I hope things dont fall apart for him.

ohara · Post #5 » by **ohara** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 12:39 am

Sometimes, youth gets the best of us and we dont really consider possible pitfalls down the road. Right now, he's living off of mommy and daddy, enjoying college and all that it brings. He had a chance to sign a contract which would likely set he and his future kids for life. But the youth in us all sometimes makes us feel we are indestructible and that tomorrow will always bring another chance. But in the high impact collision world of football, tomorrow is never a given. Bradford was lucky. Some kids dont get so lucky. As a Panther fan, I regret his choice. I only hope for his sake that he doesn't come to regret it.

Post #6 » by **Flash3** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 3:38 am

cochiseuofm wrote:I think he did...college is fun, but the ultimate goal of college is to find a career that, hopefully, pays well.

I agree with this in the sense that we go to college/university to better ourselves in more ways than one but mainly to to be able to acquire a career/job that compensates us moderately well in a field we want to be in. Luck had that opportunity and passed it up.

RIPskaterdude · Post #7 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 4:01 am

Will Andrew Luck be the next Matt Leinart?

LAKESHOW · Post #8 » by **LAKESHOW** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 5:10 am

first of all, we are gonna KICK HIS ASS next year! im glad hes comin back. new system. new Oline. we are gonna send the blitz on 5th 6th and 7th down!!

secondly, hes (Please Use More Appropriate Word). to say because its for school purposes, BS. kids get their degrees down the road ALL THE TIME. look it up, there are tons of experiences and examples.

third, ITS TIME TO GROW UP! his passion, job, vocation, mission in life, dream, goal, world view . . . IS NFL QUARTERBACK. there is no GUARANTEEs in the real world. the only guarantee right now is RIGHT NOW. and RIGHT NOW HE IS GUARANTEED #1 pick. next year is not going to promise that. Harbaugh leaves and he stays?? We are going to send the heat and kick his ass with that young offensive line of his, because this idiot thinks HE DID IT ALL ALONE! without a line. without a heckuva Offensive coach in harbaugh. Without those 2, he will take on losses, he will get sh**canned by opposing defenses next year, his stock will drop. that is a fact!

but hey, bring him back with that Oline, minus those 3-fifth year seniors? and We are gonna start sending the message and slappin this conference and college football around again. (provided of course we win our appeal-but that again is another story)

THE EMPIRE SHALL RISE AGAIN!!

Kal El · Post #9 » by **Kal El** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 9:36 am

i agree with what everybody else is saying. this is stupid. the main purpose of college is to come out of it and get a job that pays well. that's exactly what he accomplished if he went on to the draft. EFF all this other BS about being committed to finish a degree (which he could do down the road). its a dumb move but i still wish him the best and i hope his plan doesn't backfire on his ass.

Ong_dynasty · Post #10 » by **Ong_dynasty** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 10:16 am

First of all. If I was in his situation, I would not do it.
As what everyone else says, to much risk just not to go straight and the fact that your career as a football is really quite short that 1 year is = to say 7.5% of your earning potential (if say he has a 15 year career).

But I also understand why people want to stay.
You can't replace being in university during your "youth years". For people who say he can always go back. It is not the same when your 40.

To a certain extent everybody is right that the end goal of college is to find a job. But at the same time, the experience of college is irreplacable (is it worth 70 million? well thats a different story).

and Lakeshow, dont hate on the guy. When Leinart did it, i knew you were saying it was a smart move.!

Dirty Water · Post #11 » by **Dirty Water** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 1:31 pm

Whatever money he'd lose to not come out now vs next year, I'd make the same decision. As a QB going to a volitile situation like the one in Carolina can hinder his progress and development. Plus, I wouldn't mind being the the #1 QB on arguably the #1 team in college. Think of how much tail that would get you. Worth a few million dollars imo.

ohara · Post #12 » by **ohara** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 2:52 pm

Dirty Water wrote:Whatever money he'd lose to not come out now vs next year, I'd make the same decision. As a QB going to a volitile situation like the one in Carolina can hinder his progress and development. Plus, I wouldn't mind being the the #1 QB on arguably the #1 team in college. Think of how much tail that would get you. Worth a few million dollars imo.

This doesn't make sense though. By the very nature of being the #1 pick, he will go to the team with the worst record. But Carolina was hit heavy with injuries, and they did not have a stable QB situation. They are much better than their record indicates. Luck would be walking into a pretty good situation actually. Two big risks for him. One is injury which can cost him a NFL future come the next draft. The other is the CBA. If a Rookie Pay Scale is part of the 2012 Draft class, he will likely have cost himself $30-$40 million in guaranteed money. But I wont criticize him personally. He may just be cut of the mold where financial stability in life is not as important at this time as the happiness he feels in reaching his college goals. I just think he is young and making a headstrong stubborn decision to prove his independence rather than making the smart move which will have he and his future kids financially set for life. If he were 5 years older, and seen some very good young players lose their career due to injury, I bet his decision would be different.

Post #13 » by **Icness** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 4:04 pm

Maybe he doesn't want to go to the Panthers with a new coach
Maybe he isn't ready to deal with the pressures associated with being the #1 pick
Maybe he has a handshake deal with his head coach that they enter the NFL together in 2012
Maybe the threat of a lockout discourages him
Maybe his super-hot girlfriend gives him incredible oral sex every day at 4PM and he doesn't want to give that up
Maybe Peyton Manning and Sam Bradford made compelling arguments to him about staying another year

From a personal standpoint I think he made a poor decision, but I can't answer any of the above and have a hard time sorting out how I would feel in the same situations.

Consider that last year Jake Locker would have been the #4 overall pick, I can guarantee that. Trent Williams got 6 years, $60M, with just under $37M guaranteed. After a crappy season where he was statistically one of the worst BCS-conference QBs in the country, he will be lucky to crack the top 20. Just guessing, but the #21 pick under a new CBA will get something like 4 yrs, $15M. At best he lost 75% of his potential earnings--at best.

LAKESHOW · Post #14 » by **LAKESHOW** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 4:27 pm

matt barkley will be the number 1 quarterback next year.

WTFS · Post #15 » by **WTFS** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 4:46 pm

The WRONG decision? Probably not

He is a smart Kid and wants to make sure when his NFL career is over, he can continue to make good money doing what he loves

Its hard to imagine passing up millions of dollars but I wish more star players stayed in college as it helps keep the competition at a high level.

Dirty Water · Post #16 » by **Dirty Water** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 8:48 pm

Why would Carolina even draft him, they picked Jimmy Clausen last year in the 2nd round....

Post #17 » by **Da Schwab** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 8:58 pm

Maybe he wants a Heisman? Maybe he wants a national championship? I love watching the kid play, I just hope he doesn't Jake Locker himself...

Post #18 » by **Flash3** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 9:27 pm

Dirty Water wrote:Why would Carolina even draft him, they picked Jimmy Clausen last year in the 2nd round....

Let's say Indy had drafted a 2nd round QB that didn't do much that year and they had a chance to draft Peyton (which they did and it has made all the diff for that franchise) and they didn't. What would happen then?

Luck, by all reports and accounts, is that type of a talent. You take him 10 times out of 10 and then trade the other QB on your roster for w/ever becomes available.

LAKESHOW · Post #19 » by **LAKESHOW** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 10:24 pm

now without his coach, he will learn a brand new system in 1 year?

ahahaha

Roger Murdock · Post #20 » by **Roger Murdock** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 11:04 pm

Dirty Water wrote:Why would Carolina even draft him, they picked Jimmy Clausen last year in the 2nd round....

Why would the trailblazers bother drafting Jordan, they took Drexler the year before? When an elite talent comes available you take them, especially if the guy you have in place who is supposed to be the future doesn't look good after one year.