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As if it weren't bad enough that he shamed himself during the game today with his helmet-smashing and stomping...he had to make it way worse by lying about it, saying he didn't do any stomping at all. None. Zero. Figment of our collective imaginations "because of the way society is."

And then, to make it as bad as possible, he invokes God and claims that God knows that he didn't do anything even remotely resembling stomping.

So Suh starts off by breaking the rules, then lies about it, then tells us what God knows. What a bad person.

Being nice to a charity on Saturdays doesn't justify being a failure of a human being on Sundays.

This guy is mentally unstable. This lie was so egregious that he's either a psychopath or he's literally crazy.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7276717/ndamukong-suh-detroit-lions-ejected-denies-stomped-green-bay-packers-lineman

Hey Suh: God knows you're lying.

suh needs to be suspended for 5 games

teach him a lesson

Well, he's either lying, or he has mental problems. I'm leaning towards mental/anger problems.

Pharmcat wrote:suh needs to be suspended for 5 games

teach him a lesson

It wasn't even that bad. A one game suspension would be overreacting. Give him a big fine and a suspension if he does something like this again. He got him in the arm and didn't even follow through. It could have been much much worse.

He plays way too emotional though and needs to cool his jets. Hes a very level headed and intelligent man but gets too excited while playing.

Can someone explain to me how Suh kicking a player in the arm is worse than this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTAN5GdkKLI[/youtube]

Yet, Robison got no ejection (that I'm aware of), no suspension, and no headline story portraying him as a villian. All he got was a 20k fine the next day.

He clearly, intentionally kicked Lang in the groin. There was no grey area there. Nobodu pushed him into Lang or something.

In Suh's case, he kicked a player in the arm, while engaged in front and from behind by two Packer players.

Kicking a groin for no reason is MUCH worse than kicking an arm in the heat of battle.

The funny thing is both kicks were to a Packer.

Maybe its a new craze like "Tebowing". Instead its "Kick-a-Packer"

the game is a rough, physical game. quite frankly, stuff you get away with on the football field can get you sent to prison! its the nature of the game.

Todd3 wrote:Can someone explain to me how Suh kicking a player in the arm is worse than this:

Two reasons. 1st is that Robison's kick wasn't a part of a broader pattern of behavior. 2nd is that Robison was contrite afterwards whereas Suh is in full denial. That's the biggest difference, because how can you trust him to not repeat it if he thinks it was ok?

LAKESHOW wrote:the game is a rough, physical game. quite frankly, stuff you get away with on the football field can get you sent to prison! its the nature of the game.

It's not the "nature of the game", it's only the "nature of the game under Roger Goodell who has bastardized the natural nature of the game as it theoretically should be".

emunney wrote:

Todd3 wrote:Can someone explain to me how Suh kicking a player in the arm is worse than this:

Two reasons. 1st is that Robison's kick wasn't a part of a broader pattern of behavior. 2nd is that Robison was contrite afterwards whereas Suh is in full denial. That's the biggest difference, because how can you trust him to not repeat it if he thinks it was ok?

The league is flooded with players who you probably shouldn't trust to do something nasty within a game. But every player in the league signs up for it when they sign their million dollar contract. They know there are players that cross the line occasionally and they could get hurt. That's part of why they get paid so much to participate, because its a dangerous game. So, you can't just suspend everybody in the league because they "might" do something that they could hurt someone someday.

He kicked a player one time and no one was hurt. Thats the offense here. He has no prior instances of kicking players. He's had 3 fines for hitting QB's too hard. Thats what he's paid to do - hit QB's hard.

Besides, Suh has a legimate case for self-defense. He was being physically held by one player, and then physically pulled backwards by another. I don't see why he would have to apologize for trying to protect himself in a dangerous game.

Robison was all by himself, no one was attacking him, and he just decided to wind back and boot another player in the nutz. That's deserving of an apology. And thats the type of player you have to watch out for, if anything. Not a player who was in a skirmish in the pile and was trying to defend himself, just like Dietrich was doing by holding him down.

It wasnt that bad... i wouldnt even fine him that much.

wait self defense is the justification? LOL thats funny

Roger Murdock wrote:

Pharmcat wrote:suh needs to be suspended for 5 games

teach him a lesson

It wasn't even that bad. A one game suspension would be overreacting. Give him a big fine and a suspension if he does something like this again. He got him in the arm and didn't even follow through. It could have been much much worse.

He plays way too emotional though and needs to cool his jets. Hes a very level headed and intelligent man but gets too excited while playing.

he is lucky no injury was resulted

just b/c no injury was there doesnt mean the punisher should be much lighter....he needs to be taught a lesson that this type of behavior wont be accepted

Todd3 wrote:Besides, Suh has a legimate case for self-defense. He was being physically held by one player, and then physically pulled backwards by another. I don't see why he would have to apologize for trying to protect himself in a dangerous game.

Then QBs should be able to kick almost every player that sacks them because they always lay on them/sit on their face. Actually QBs are much smaller so they better go the conceal to carry route. Gotta protect yourself in this dangerous game. And by game I of course mean the game that Ice T plays in "surviving the game". Much like Suh was in yesterday while he was being "held" and "pushed". Suh was lucky to survive to tell his tall tale.

If he was protecting himself (from nothing really) he would've said so. Instead he denied it. Might as well have denied that his last name is 3 letters long.

When asked afterward where Suh stepped on him, Dietrich-Smith said...

“I have no idea. I have to watch the tape.”

Doesn't sound like too much damage was done.

If you shoot at someone and miss, the law doesn't give you pass for poor accuracy. You can't stomp down on people with cleats on. There's no excuse for it. The league needs to get Suh under control before he seriously injures someone.

If Suh wanted to hurt him he easily could have. There was no wind up and no follow through on that stomp.

Expected to be at least two games

per schefter.

Celtics_Champs wrote:Expected to be at least two games

per schefter.

Here you go Celtics_Champs.

Detroit Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh is expected to be suspended at least two games for shoving Green Bay Packers offensive lineman Evan Dietrich-Smith's head, stomping on him and then not owning up to it in his post-game comments, league sources told ESPN.

The NFL has not determined exactly how long Suh will be suspended, but league officials believe two games will be the minimum. Sources say the league also could require Suh attend anger management courses.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/72865 ... ources-say

There it is. It's funny that the article sais "and then not owning up to it in his post-game comments."

That shouldn't really be a factor.