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How do you think the Pats will do this year with all the talent they have at the WR position? Brady gonna break the records he set in 2007?

I've been saying this for a while now. The patriots formula for success is done. They are finished until they brinhg in a defense. Secondly, we know this in LAs pro football team, talent wins the big games. The patriot way is to lowball their players salaries. Then coach em up. While the coaching is there, that can only go so far. In the end game you have super fast players playing against your coached up dollar99 players. The talent will prevail when all things are even.

LAKESHOW wrote:I've been saying this for a while now. The patriots formula for success is done. They are finished until they brinhg in a defense. Secondly, we know this in LAs pro football team, talent wins the big games. The patriot way is to lowball their players salaries. Then coach em up. While the coaching is there, that can only go so far. In the end game you have super fast players playing against your coached up dollar99 players. The talent will prevail when all things are even.

Because the Patriots haven't had any success with their strategy.

I think you're underrating how valuable coaching is in the NFL. I hate Belichick on a personal level, but he's one hell of a coach. He gets more out of his players than most coaches ever can.

not at all. i used to live out in the area for years. big time coach in bellichek. he has done an excellent job. but im deliverin analysis on a higher level that many regular NFL beer drinkin TV guys wouldnt understand. my anlysis is on a higher level of ZENmanship that very few can comprehend. bellichek has outstanding credentials . . . however . . . he is on a "bit" of a slump here. again, to dissect that "bit" . . . to dissect that "slump" . . . your football understanding needs to be at a superior level where the SHOW is at.

now . . . the patriots, as ive mentioned before . . . are done. finished. get close, but never ever will be able to get the bling bling. why? several reasons. a couple mentioned above. defense. another? low balling payroll while keeping status quo means ok talented teams get coached up excellently. but still . . . theyre ok talented. a superior talented team in which you will meet in the big dance will take over your ok talented team. another reason? stay tuned.

LAKESHOW wrote:not at all. i used to live out in the area for years. big time coach in bellichek. he has done an excellent job. but im deliverin analysis on a higher level that many regular NFL beer drinkin TV guys wouldnt understand. my anlysis is on a higher level of ZENmanship that very few can comprehend. bellichek has outstanding credentials . . . however . . . he is on a "bit" of a slump here. again, to dissect that "bit" . . . to dissect that "slump" . . . your football understanding needs to be at a superior level where the SHOW is at.

now . . . the patriots, as ive mentioned before . . . are done. finished. get close, but never ever will be able to get the bling bling. why? several reasons. a couple mentioned above. defense. another? low balling payroll while keeping status quo means ok talented teams get coached up excellently. but still . . . theyre ok talented. a superior talented team in which you will meet in the big dance will take over your ok talented team. another reason? stay tuned.

Are you high??

Sounds like a cop out to me. I always debate with people when it comes to sports. Not one to shy away because this is all meant to be fun and games.

HIGH on knowledge. Their situation is clear. bellichek traded up this year in the draft. when was the last time he had done that? low ball pay for wes welker. RIDICULOUSLY under paid KEY player for your team!! (see past accomplishments for that franchise) read between the lines. bellichek philosophy with kraft is to low ball . . . short change players . . . but the first time ever movement in the draft shows an understanding that he needs to adjust the "patriot way"

coaching up players will only get you so far. YOU MUST PAY TOP DOLLAR TO BRING IN TOP TALENT! if they dont . . . they will meet up with a team that will attack their "underpaid" area of weakness, attack it, and defeat his teams. Again, he addressed the defense in the draft, and traded up and got more and more defensive talent. brought in more receivers, and FRANCHISED welker. thats a start, but again, there are more problems . . . what problems? stay tuned.

your welcome . . .

Patriots know about everything that Welker has done for their franchise. They also know that he's getting older and the NFL is a business.

I think pairing Brandon Lloyd with Brady is going to result in some great production.

JustAwesome wrote:Patriots know about everything that Welker has done for their franchise. They also know that he's getting older and the NFL is a business.

GEE, right out of the "patriot way" handbook.

more knowledge? OK . . . here it is . . . why did bellichek for the first time trade up the way he did and double up on key positions? BY THEIR CHEAP PATRIOT WAYS . . . they are realizing the window is closing on their key, number one player. his time is coming to an end. and instead of goin all out spending to bring the franchise to the elite pittsburgh steeler, 49er, dallas cowboy 5+ championship level, theyve gone cheap and are a franchise on the brink of being known for as many superbowl losses than superbowl championships.

dont hate the playa . . . hate the game.

Cheap Patriots ways? Care to explain that one to me.

sunshinekids99 wrote:Cheap Patriots ways? Care to explain that one to me.

"...im deliverin analysis on a higher level that many regular NFL beer drinkin TV guys wouldnt understand. my anlysis is on a higher level of ZENmanship that very few can comprehend..."

heres a point sunshine . . . the window is closing on the single guy that controls everything to the patriots success. hopefully the addition of brandon lloyd, new additions on defense and a happy wes welker will help them achieve that goal of becoming a 4time superbowl champion franchise.

if the moves do not work, it will have been the result of years of tryin to "go cheap" . . . "low ball" . . . THUS WASTING VALUABLE CAREER TIME from the so said number one, key guy, pivotal player on the team.

on a side note . . . havent any of you ever wondered or asked, why do the patriots sign "some" popular guys at the tail end of their career? this practice has been goin on for years? sheesh, cant be that naieve? right?

I feel like I should keep disagreeing with LAKESHOW so he'll keep posting these insane rants.

mr. bucks . . . there truly is only one way comprehend the knowledge and visionary insights that have been presented . . . acceptance of da troof. trust the SHOW, there plenty around here over the years who have benefitted from it.

LAKESHOW wrote:mr. bucks . . . there truly is only one way comprehend the knowledge and visionary insights that have been presented . . . acceptance of da troof. trust the SHOW, there plenty around here over the years who have benefitted from it.

You're out of your god damn mind. You can't even write coherently.

LAKESHOW wrote:heres a point sunshine . . . the window is closing on the single guy that controls everything to the patriots success. hopefully the addition of brandon lloyd, new additions on defense and a happy wes welker will help them achieve that goal of becoming a 4time superbowl champion franchise.

if the moves do not work, it will have been the result of years of tryin to "go cheap" . . . "low ball" . . . THUS WASTING VALUABLE CAREER TIME from the so said number one, key guy, pivotal player on the team.

I keep hearing that cheap comment. The Pats spend to the cap, they just do it differently then other teams. They value 35 to 50 a whole lot more than other teams do.