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Who got Snubbed?

The Texans have 8 reps with 5 starters.

AFC Offense:

QB Peyton Manning, Broncos*
QB Tom Brady, Patriots
QB Matt Schaub, Texans

RB Arian Foster, Texans*
RB Jamaal Charles, Chiefs
RB Ray Rice, Ravens
FB Vonta Leach, Ravens*

WR A.J. Green, Bengals*
WR Andre Johnson, Texans*
WR Reggie Wayne, Colts
WR Wes Welker, Patriots

TE Rob Gronkowski, Patriots*
TE Heath Miller, Steelers

T Joe Thomas, Browns*
T Duane Brown, Texans*
T Ryan Clady, Broncos

G Logan Mankins, Patriots*
G Marshal Yanda, Ravens*
G Wade Smith, Texans

C Maurkice Pouncey, Steelers*
C Chris Myers, Texans


AFC Defense:

DE J.J. Watt, Texans*
DE Cameron Wake, Dolphins*
DE Elvis Dumervil, Broncos

DT Geno Atkins, Bengals*
DT Vince Wilfork, Patriots*
DT Haloti Ngata, Ravens

OLB Von Miller, Broncos*
OLB Tamba Hali, Chiefs*
OLB Robert Mathis, Colts

ILB Jerod Mayo, Patriots*
ILB Derrick Johnson, Chiefs

CB Champ Bailey, Broncos*
CB Johnathan Joseph, Texans*
CB Antonio Cromartie, Jets

FS Ed Reed, Ravens*

SS Eric Berry, Chiefs*
SS LaRon Landry, Jets


AFC Special Teams:

P Dustin Colquitt, Chiefs
K Phil Dawson, Browns
KR Jacoby Jones, Ravens
ST Matthew Slater, Patriots

NFC Offense:

QB Aaron Rodgers, Packers*
QB Matt Ryan, Falcons
QB Robert Griffin III, Redskins

RB Adrian Peterson, Vikings*
RB Marshawn Lynch, Seahawks
RB Frank Gore, 49ers
FB Jerome Felton, Vikings*

WR Calvin Johnson, Lions*
WR Brandon Marshall, Bears*
WR Julio Jones, Falcons
WR Victor Cruz, Giants

TE Tony Gonzalez, Falcons*
TE Jason Witten, Cowboys

T Joe Staley, 49ers*
T Russell Okung, Seahawks*
T Trent Williams, Redskins

G Mike Iupati, 49ers*
G Jahri Evans, Saints*
G Chris Snee, Giants

C Max Unger, Seahawks*
C Jeff Saturday, Packers


NFC Defense:

DE Jason Pierre-Paul, Giants*
DE Julius Peppers, Bears*
DE Jared Allen, Vikings

DT Justin Smith, 49ers*
DT Henry Melton, Bears*
DT Gerald McCoy, Buccaneers

OLB Aldon Smith, 49ers*
OLB DeMarcus Ware, Cowboys*
OLB Clay Matthews, Packers

ILB Patrick Willis, 49ers*
ILB NaVorro Bowman, 49ers

CB Charles Tillman, Bears*
CB Tim Jennings, Bears*
CB Patrick Peterson , Cardinals

FS Dashon Goldson, 49ers*
FS Earl Thomas, Seahawks

SS Donte Whitner, 49ers*


NFC Special Teams:

P Thomas Morstead, Saints
K Blair Walsh, Vikings
KR Leon Washington, Seahawks
ST Lorenzo Alexander, Redskins

Lance Briggs got snubbed.

Sherman should have made it but didn't win his appeal before the voting ended.

Richard Sherman (over Tim Jennings) and Dez Bryant (over Victor Cruz) are the first two guys that come to mind.

I love how all three of the Giants selections are completely underhanded, popularity picks.

As for snubs, I'd take:

- Alfred Morris over Gore
- Victor Jackson over Cruz
- Richard Sherman over Peterson
- London Fletcher over Bowman
- Luke Kuechly over Matthews

Weird that I think all my snubs are in the NFC. I also really hate how rookies picks are frowned upon when it comes to Pro Bowl selections. I don't know why it bothers me, this game shouldn't even exist anymore.

I've heard that Sherman was left out because of the PED question. They assumed he would be ineligible and voted as such. It's why Joe Haden isn't there too, players who get suspended for PEDs are ineligible for Pro Bowl & postseason honors.

Honestly I couldn't care less about the Pro Bowl. I care about All Pro and the Pro Football Weekly honors.

apparently sullivan should have gotten in over saturday at center for the nfc

Da Schwab wrote:I love how all three of the Giants selections are completely underhanded, popularity picks.

As for snubs, I'd take:

- Alfred Morris over Gore
- Victor Jackson over Cruz
- Richard Sherman over Peterson
- London Fletcher over Bowman
- Luke Kuechly over Matthews

Weird that I think all my snubs are in the NFC. I also really hate how rookies picks are frowned upon when it comes to Pro Bowl selections. I don't know why it bothers me, this game shouldn't even exist anymore.

I could see Gore, but why Bowman? He's had a better year than Willis this year, and he's one of the best ILB in the league.

Icness wrote:Honestly I couldn't care less about the Pro Bowl. I care about All Pro and the Pro Football Weekly honors.

Exactly. To me, the Pro Bowl is a real popularity contest, because a lot of worthy yet less popular players don't get in every year. The game itself is a real joke. Imo, it needs to be gone.

Jake0890 wrote:

Icness wrote:Honestly I couldn't care less about the Pro Bowl. I care about All Pro and the Pro Football Weekly honors.

Exactly. To me, the Pro Bowl is a real popularity contest, because a lot of worthy yet less popular players don't get in every year. The game itself is a real joke. Imo, it needs to be gone.

This. You pretty much take out everything that makes football so entertaining. Its not worth the watch at all

hermes wrote:apparently sullivan should have gotten in over saturday at center for the nfc

Definitely. Saturday got benched too, which makes the pick even more laughable.

Daryl Washington has been the best ILB in the entire league , he got snubbed.

I'm a big fan of Saturday (from his days with the Colts), but there were plenty of other centers that should have went instead of him.

Morris should be starting, considering he finished second in the league in rushing and was basically top 5 all year. But first alternate is no shame. Fletcher was good enough to get in but Willis/Bowman are beasts, so I can live with that.

How the **** is Jeff Saturday a Pro Bowler? That is one of the biggest Pro Bowl jokes in history and really tells me how ignorant fans/players/coaches can be. Should have been Vikes C Sullivan, dude is a beast and has been making holes for Peterson all year.

Also, Dez Bryant should have gotten in, but for years the Cowboys have gotten garbage players to Hawaii(see: Roy Williams)so a bit of reverse karma at work there.

Higga wrote:Morris should be starting, considering he finished second in the league in rushing and was basically top 5 all year. But first alternate is no shame. Fletcher was good enough to get in but Willis/Bowman are beasts, so I can live with that.

Daryl Washington did not get in and he was the best ILB in the league, on a top defense too and statistically anyway..

Washington
108 solo tackles 9 sacks 1 int

Fletcher
78 solo tackles 3 sacks 5 int

Willis
88 solo tackles 0.5 sacks 2 int

Bowmann
97 solo tackles 2 sacks 1 int

Higga wrote:Morris should be starting, considering he finished second in the league in rushing and was basically top 5 all year. But first alternate is no shame. Fletcher was good enough to get in but Willis/Bowman are beasts, so I can live with that.

How the **** is Jeff Saturday a Pro Bowler? That is one of the biggest Pro Bowl jokes in history and really tells me how ignorant fans/players/coaches can be. Should have been Vikes C Sullivan, dude is a beast and has been making holes for Peterson all year.

Also, Dez Bryant should have gotten in, but for years the Cowboys have gotten garbage players to Hawaii(see: Roy Williams)so a bit of reverse karma at work there.

Do they not allow androids in the pro bowl?

TruthTelling wrote:

Higga wrote:Morris should be starting, considering he finished second in the league in rushing and was basically top 5 all year. But first alternate is no shame. Fletcher was good enough to get in but Willis/Bowman are beasts, so I can live with that.

Daryl Washington did not get in and he was the best ILB in the league, on a top defense too and statistically anyway..

Washington
108 solo tackles 9 sacks 1 int

Fletcher
78 solo tackles 3 sacks 5 int

Willis
88 solo tackles 0.5 sacks 2 int

Bowmann
97 solo tackles 2 sacks 1 int

Washington is very good no doubt, but looking just at tackles isn't the best stat. The best defenses get off the field quickly, which means they don't have as many plays and thus have fewer tackles.

Fletcher went like 10+ years without making the Pro Bowl. Sometimes you gotta pay your dues.

2012 AP All-Pro Team

First Team

Offense

Quarterback - Peyton Manning, Denver.
Running Backs - Adrian Peterson, Minnesota; Marshawn Lynch, Seattle.
Fullback - Vonta Leach, Baltimore.
Tight End - Tony Gonzalez, Atlanta.
Wide Receivers - Calvin Johnson, Detroit; Brandon Marshall, Chicago.
Tackles - Duane Brown, Houston; Ryan Clady, Denver.
Guards - Mike Iupati, San Francisco; Jahri Evans, New Orleans.
Center - Max Unger, Seattle.
Placekicker - Blair Walsh, Minnesota.
Kick Returner - Jacoby Jones, Baltimore.

DEFENSE

Ends - J.J. Watt, Houston; Cameron Wake, Miami.
Tackles - Geno Atkins, Cincinnati; Vince Wilfork, New England.
Outside Linebackers - Von Miller, Denver; Aldon Smith, San Francisco.
Inside Linebackers - Patrick Willis, San Francisco; NaVorro Bowman, San Francisco.
Cornerbacks - Richard Sherman, Seattle; Charles Tillman, Chicago.
Safeties - Earl Thomas, Seattle; Dashon Goldson, San Francisco.
Punter - Andy Lee, San Francisco


SECOND TEAM

OFFENSE

Quarterback - Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay.
Running Backs - Alfred Morris, Washington; Jamaal Charles, Kansas City.
Fullback - Jerome Felton, Minnesota.
Tight End - Jason Witten, Dallas.
Wide Receivers - A.J. Green, Cincinnati; Andre Johnson, Houston.
Tackles - Joe Thomas, Cleveland; Joe Staley, San Francisco.
Guards - Marshal Yanda, Baltimore; Logan Mankins, New England.
Center - Maurkice Pouncey, Pittsburgh.
Placekicker - Phil Dawson, Cleveland.
Kick Returner - David Wilson, New York Giants

DEFENSE

Ends - Justin Smith, San Francisco; Julius Peppers, Chicago.
Tackles - Justin Smith, San Francisco; Ndamukong Suh, Detroit, and Haloti Ngata, Baltimore.
Outside Linebackers - Chad Greenway, Minnesota; Ahmad Brooks, San Francisco, Clay Matthews, Green Bay, and DeMarcus Ware, Dallas.
Inside Linebackers - Daryl Washington, Arizona; London Fletcher, Washington.
Cornerbacks - Champ Bailey, Denver; Tim Jennings, Chicago.
Safeties - Eric Weddle, San Diego; Jairus Byrd, Buffalo.
Punter - Thomas Morstead, New Orleans.

Surprised to see Brooks making the team since he's usually overshadowed by Smith, Willis and Bowman.