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RG3 out 4-8 months (page 2)
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 12:30 am
by Mamba Mentality
@ESPNRadio980: Sources close to Skins camp say RG3 has torn ACL & PCL & will not play for a min of 14-18 months.
WOW
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 12:31 am
by Jake0890
According to ESPN.com, it's ACL and LCL.
Shanahan is gone if he's out for that long.
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:16 am
by bigrich88
if anything is even slightly torn, as is being reported, shanahan should at the least be suspended. it was apparent he was hurt and that the chance for further injury was very high, and the chance of him worsening the injury became reality, but he stupidly/stubbornly kept him in the game.
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:59 am
by LAKESHOW
as they say . . . winning isnt everything . . . it is THE ONLY THING!
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 4:06 am
by ATL Boy
Yea, bad move by Shanahan; you never leave it up to the player about whether he can play or not, the player will almost always say yes no matter what, especially RG3, it was his decision as the coach, and it is his job to protect his player but he crossed the line by letting him play.
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 6:27 am
by NeedsMoreCheese
While its a terrible coaching job by Shanahan to leave him in, Snyder should get blame for that field being so ****. This isn't the first injury caused by terrible turf there late in the season and it won't be the last if he doesn't change it. Hes not afraid to spend money so whats the issue? Remember thats the same field Petersons injury occurred on late last season. The NFC East title game had at least 3 ankle/high ankle sprains. Chris Clemons tore his ACL and meniscus in the same game as RG3s injury.
I understand injuries happen in football, but no reason to add unnecessary risk with negligence.
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:14 am
by tcorbin
I don't think i would ever draft an athletic black QB. its not a racist thing, its just that those guys sacrifice their lives just for one extra yard.
on 3rd and 10, they are going to throw themselves to get 11 yard, rather than just run out of bounds for 9 yards and punt the ball, and live to play another 10 years.
if you are an OC, you would probably have fun with a guy who can run and throw, but i think i would just rather have a guy like Brady or Ryan and sit back in the pocket, throw the ball away or take the sack, punt and then try again on the next possession.
if i had to take a young athletic young QB like RG, Vick, or Newton, i would probably just tell them not to kill themselves on 3rd down, slide, run out of bounds, and that their is no shame in punting.
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 1:52 pm
by Icness
Kohl Is A Mome wrote:While its a terrible coaching job by Shanahan to leave him in, Snyder should get blame for that field being so ****. This isn't the first injury caused by terrible turf there late in the season and it won't be the last if he doesn't change it. Hes not afraid to spend money so whats the issue? Remember thats the same field Petersons injury occurred on late last season. The NFC East title game had at least 3 ankle/high ankle sprains. Chris Clemons tore his ACL and meniscus in the same game as RG3s injury.
I understand injuries happen in football, but no reason to add unnecessary risk with negligence.
Totally agree. The Seahawks kicker got hurt in warmups too when his plant leg slipped.
The middle school my kids will attend has field turf on its football field. I think Danny Snyder can afford it. Or maybe he could hit up buddy Tom Cruise for a short loan.
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 4:33 pm
by Higga
The FedEx grass sucks, easily the worst in the league, but Shanahan is primarily to blame. RG3 was clearly limping, and he gets paid $5+ Million to make these decisions and he blew it. Of course RG3 will say he can play, players will always want to play, the coach has to do his damn job and sit him.
The 14-18 month headline is false though and has been taken down. It's most likely a partial tear. He will likely be on PUP to start 2013, and we'll see from there. There is still a chance he'll be healthy for Week 1 but I highly doubt it.
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:55 pm
by LAKESHOW
Icness wrote:. Or maybe he could hit up buddy Tom Cruise for a short loan.
nah, i talked to tom the other day, he said the redskins were not worth it.
But anyhow, I see RG makin full recovery before the start of next season. He will be back and the Redskins should clearly . . . clearly see . . . this is the franchise. This guy is their golden ticket to the promised land. He has had an excellent season, maybe first half of playoff, then shut it down. Just like their pitcher from the washington nationals, save it, theres plenty of future left in the tank. Dont F it up. Seriously, if they just add a couple more parts, the Redskins can start dominating. Hopefully they didnt blow that opportunity.
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 7:21 pm
by Brandon-Clyde
Both Shanahan and the field share blame(and considering the field conditions Shanahan should have been extra careful with RG3). You could see RG3 wearing down as the game went on and Cousins should have been put in for at least a couple of downs here and there to just let RG rest for a spell and be checked out by the team doctor
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:47 am
by Pharmcat
some1 has to be fired for literally destroying the career of this guy
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 10:25 am
by Harry Palmer
tcorbin wrote:I don't think i would ever draft an athletic black QB. its not a racist thing, its just that those guys...
And yet it is a racist thing.
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 12:33 pm
by Jake0890
RG3 to have total ACL And LCL reconstruction. the recovery time is approx. 4-8 months.
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:03 pm
by Worm Guts
Pharmcat wrote:some1 has to be fired for literally destroying the career of this guy
Literally, RG3 will probably be back by the beginning of next season. Let's not get carried away with the destroying the career stuff.
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:32 pm
by NeedsMoreCheese
Jake0890 wrote:RG3 to have total ACL And LCL reconstruction. the recovery time is approx. 4-8 months.
Theres no way its 4 months, I read 6-8 and even 8 seems optimistic. Reason being its not his first injury, sounds like the patellar graft has to come from the other knee since they already used one from the current one. And that means it will require minor rehab of the other knee as well.
It seems like a lot of people look at ACLs differently now because of the way Peterson recovered, but the thing about Petersons was it was only the ACL, and there was no joint damage around it (which impacts recovery tremendously). I'm not trying to diminish anything MVPeterson did because its remarkable, just trying to put in context his injury versus others.
Worm Guts wrote:Pharmcat wrote:some1 has to be fired for literally destroying the career of this guy
Literally, RG3 will probably be back by the beginning of next season. Let's not get carried away with the destroying the career stuff.
While that may be true, it may still significantly impact his career, you have to be very careful about reinjury with that knee since it'll have had two ACL repairs and the LCL. Whether that limits anything in the playbook is anybodys guess at this point, but i wouldn't rule it out until we see what happens.
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:08 pm
by Worm Guts
Kohl Is A Mome wrote:Jake0890 wrote:RG3 to have total ACL And LCL reconstruction. the recovery time is approx. 4-8 months.
Theres no way its 4 months, I read 6-8 and even 8 seems optimistic. Reason being its not his first injury, sounds like the patellar graft has to come from the other knee since they already used one from the current one. And that means it will require minor rehab of the other knee as well.
It seems like a lot of people look at ACLs differently now because of the way Peterson recovered, but the thing about Petersons was it was only the ACL, and there was no joint damage around it (which impacts recovery tremendously). I'm not trying to diminish anything MVPeterson did because its remarkable, just trying to put in context his injury versus others.
Peterson tore both the ACL and MCL, and he tore his LCL as a rookie.
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:41 pm
by Rafael122
RG 3 returned from his first torn ACL in months. He has age by his side, if he were 33 then it would be a bit worrisome. I'm not doubting RG 3 can make it back by August/September. He won't be at 4.3 speed, probably 4.5, but the kid can still throw the ball. I mean he came into the league last year saying he's not a running quarterback, his arm is his best asset.
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:47 pm
by BIGGIEsmalls 23
Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III is undergoing total reconstructive surgery of his right knee early Wednesday morning to repair torn anterior cruciate and lateral collateral ligaments, but he is expected to be ready for the opener of the 2013 NFL regular season, according to team sources familiar with the determination made by orthopedic specialist Dr. James Andrews.
The torn ACL was diagnosed late Tuesday as a complete tear of the patella graft that was used to repair Griffin's torn ACL suffered at Baylor in 2009. A team source said Andrews likely will use a patella graft from Griffin's left knee to repair the most recent tear.
The Associated Press, citing a source, reported that Wednesday's surgery is expected to last two hours.
Griffin's recovery is projected at six to eight months, barring any setbacks, sources said. The rehabilitation plan will focus primarily on strengthening Griffin's quadriceps to help protect and help stabilize the knee, according to sources. The reconstruction of the LCL is considered a complication, but sources said Andrews informed the Redskins it should rehab well during the same six-to-eight month time frame as the ACL injury.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/st ... ady-opener
Re: RG3 out 14-18 months?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:51 pm
by Icness
I will be surprised if RG3 is the opening game starter. Not shocked, but surprised. And I do think this forever diminishes his ability if only a little bit.
QB requires different movement than RB. RBs never have to go backwards at full speed and then plant/throw. That's serious stress on the knee.