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I am a Detroit Lions fan so i may be a little bias, but did anyone else watch the Det v Clev game and hear the browns announcers just absolutely get on their knees for jhonny. I like jhonny manzel, but holly molely they absolutely ruined that game for me.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... on-ratings
Highest ratings ever for a preseason game in NFL Network history.

Everyone is, As a browns fan Im not the biggest Johnny fan but its cleary he is already as good as hoyer who is completey terrible

CBFAlex wrote:Everyone is, As a browns fan Im not the biggest Johnny fan but its cleary he is already as good as hoyer who is completey terrible

wouldn't say he's better than hoyer as he's still got a lot to learn that only experience can teach, however he definitely more of a playmaker, and quite frankly going to get butts in the seats for cleveland. Its just disgusting how they don't even try to hide they want jhonny

Johnny Clipboard, don't worry he'll be out of the league Vince Young style sooner than later.

Vides990 wrote:Johnny Clipboard, don't worry he'll be out of the league Vince Young style sooner than later.

Were you correct about Kurt Warner, Tom Brady, and Aaron Rodgers, all of whom the experts weren't high on? If not, you probably shouldn't be talking about Johnny Football either.

Celtsfan1980 wrote:

Vides990 wrote:Johnny Clipboard, don't worry he'll be out of the league Vince Young style sooner than later.

Were you correct about Kurt Warner, Tom Brady, and Aaron Rodgers, all of whom the experts weren't high on? If not, you probably shouldn't be talking about Johnny Football either.

You must be one of the Cle announcers OP was talking about His new name is Johnny Clipboard get it right.

Vides990 wrote:Johnny Clipboard, don't worry he'll be out of the league Vince Young style sooner than later.

??????

Don't think Young had this sort of talent. Only way Manziel isn't a starting qb 3 years from now is if he gets injured. Talents there, durability is the question

?????? back at ya. coming into the league vince young was perceived to have much more talent than manziel.

Agreed, Young was believed to be considerably more talented. I don't see the talent from Manziel, he can scramble a little bit because he's creative but his arm isn't great, he's not quick, he's small and most importantly weak minded...just not an NFL player.

how is he weak minded?

Vides990 wrote:

Celtsfan1980 wrote:

Vides990 wrote:Johnny Clipboard, don't worry he'll be out of the league Vince Young style sooner than later.

Were you correct about Kurt Warner, Tom Brady, and Aaron Rodgers, all of whom the experts weren't high on? If not, you probably shouldn't be talking about Johnny Football either.

You must be one of the Cle announcers OP was talking about His new name is Johnny Clipboard get it right.

People have been proven wrong regarding prospects all the time. If people are proven wrong about Manziel, they'll move on to the next prospect they don't like and talk about them failing. It just makes you look arrogant.