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Who will win the division next season?

Broncos
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Chargers
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Chiefs
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Raiders
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Re: AFC West 

Post#161 » by bwgood77 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:41 pm

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Re: AFC West 

Post#162 » by bwgood77 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:39 pm

DE Joey Bosa - Coming off an incredible rookie season, Bosa is primed to further establish himself as one of the most dominant defensive ends in the NFL. Accruing 10.5 sacks in just 12 games, Bosa took the league by storm.

Aside from the sacks, Bosa also established himself in other ways. He managed 23 quarterback hurries, only two less than Defensive Player of the Year Khalil Mack–and Mack played all 16 games.

The duo of Bosa and Melvin Ingram could quickly become one of the most dangerous pass-rushing duos in the NFL in Gus Bradley’s new 4-3 defense. Barring any setbacks, expect Bosa to remain a force in the upcoming season and make a strong case for his appearance in the Pro Bowl.


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Re: AFC West 

Post#163 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:20 pm

AFC West in 2019:

Denver Broncos
Kansas City Chiefs
Las Vegas Raiders
Los Angeles Chargers

Just doesn't look or feel right does it?
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Re: AFC West 

Post#164 » by bluejerseyjinx » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:31 pm

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Re: AFC West 

Post#165 » by Stoked » Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:25 pm

Really pleased with the Broncos draft. Hit their positions of need, added to the secondary, RB and QB depth. If Butt stays healthy he could be a huge steal.

Then added to the 2018 draft pick totals.
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Post#166 » by bwgood77 » Wed May 3, 2017 5:15 pm

Stoked wrote:Really pleased with the Broncos draft. Hit their positions of need, added to the secondary, RB and QB depth. If Butt stays healthy he could be a huge steal.

Then added to the 2018 draft pick totals.


What do you think of signing Jamaal Charles?
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Re: AFC West 

Post#167 » by Stoked » Fri May 5, 2017 3:43 pm

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Stoked wrote:Really pleased with the Broncos draft. Hit their positions of need, added to the secondary, RB and QB depth. If Butt stays healthy he could be a huge steal.

Then added to the 2018 draft pick totals.


What do you think of signing Jamaal Charles?


Great low risk move. He signed a 900k contract with a 100k signing bonus. Incentives can take it up to 3.75 million. 1 year deal

Denver already has 3 running backs on roster. If Charles doesn't stay healthy or perform Denver is out a million dollars and the RB position still has 3 other players.

But if he does stay healthy Denver can stagger Anderson and Charles all season long.

Furthermore if they stay healthy and the running game is decent that will be a huge boon to the young developing QBs in Denver'a roster.

Very low risk with a potential fantastic reward. A+ move.
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Post#168 » by bsjaffe6 » Sat May 20, 2017 7:28 pm

i think the Chargers will surprise folks if the o-lineman drafted step in and preform at league average because they really improved their defense

the Raiders could have a better team and win fewer games due to a tougher schedule
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Re: AFC West 

Post#169 » by Revived » Thu May 25, 2017 3:19 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Stoked wrote:Really pleased with the Broncos draft. Hit their positions of need, added to the secondary, RB and QB depth. If Butt stays healthy he could be a huge steal.

Then added to the 2018 draft pick totals.


What do you think of signing Jamaal Charles?

Kinda surprised Chargers didn't go after Charles to be 3rd down RB in a Danny Woodhead type role. Especially considering Charles signed for peanuts with Denver.
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Re: AFC West 

Post#170 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:20 am

I think this division will come down to Kansas City and Denver. Raiders gets back to reality after winning all those very close games last year. They will be on the other side of those games this season.
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Re: AFC West 

Post#171 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Jul 5, 2017 7:55 pm

Stoked wrote:Really pleased with the Broncos draft. Hit their positions of need, added to the secondary, RB and QB depth. If Butt stays healthy he could be a huge steal.

Then added to the 2018 draft pick totals.

You are really going to like Leary and if Charles stays healthy you guys could win the division if you get your defense playing like 2 years ago.
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Re: AFC West 

Post#172 » by Otis Driftwood » Thu Jul 6, 2017 1:22 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:I think this division will come down to Kansas City and Denver. Raiders gets back to reality after winning all those very close games last year. They will be on the other side of those games this season.


Nope.

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Re: AFC West 

Post#173 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 3:48 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:I think this division will come down to Kansas City and Denver. Raiders gets back to reality after winning all those very close games last year. They will be on the other side of those games this season.


Nope.

Wrong.


bsjaffe6 wrote:i think the Chargers will surprise folks if the o-lineman drafted step in and preform at league average because they really improved their defense

the Raiders could have a better team and win fewer games due to a tougher schedule

Was surprised to run into this article today...

Why the Los Angeles Chargers will win the AFC West - 2017 NFL
by Mike Clay on http://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/19759363/why-los-angeles-chargers-win-afc-west-2017-nfl

The StubHub Center may only seat 30,000 people, but fans in Los Angeles are in for a treat this season.

The Chargers are my pick to win the AFC West in 2017.

I know. Crazy, right?

This is a team that has gone 9-23 over the past two years and hasn't won the West since a string of four consecutive titles spanning from 2006-09.

Horrific injury luck is the predominant excuse for the Chargers' recent struggles, and the work of Scott Kacsmar confirms it as a legitimate. As Kacsmar points out, the Chargers lost the second-most games to injury last season and ranked fifth, second and seventh in the category the previous three years.

Keenan Allen, Brandon Mebane, Jason Verrett, Jahleel Addae, Brandon Flowers, Danny Woodhead, Stevie Johnson, Manti Te'o and Jerry Attaochu missed significant time in 2016. Melvin Gordon also missed nearly four full games. First-round pick Joey Bosa, who missed training camp during a holdout, didn't play until Week 5 because of a hamstring injury.

It may be hard to believe after four consecutive seasons of bad luck, but regression to the mean in the injury department is inevitable and has to be baked into any prognostications for the 2017 season.

With that in mind, all that matters today is the team's 2017 projected 53-man roster and its competition. And the Chargers' roster not only stacks up with the top teams in the league, but is arguably better than those in Kansas City, Oakland and Denver. Here's why:

They have the division's easiest schedule, and their rivals have flaws

The AFC West is sure to be a challenge and is arguably the league's toughest division. The Raiders, who I loved last year, are pretty stacked offensively, but failed to fill defensive voids (specifically up the middle) that cost them last year. The Chiefs defense has transitioned from "dominant" to "good" and the Broncos' outstanding defense is unlikely to overcome a below-average offense with quarterback question marks.

Granted, all four teams have a shot, but helping push the Chargers over the top is the division's easiest schedule, which includes unique matchups with Cleveland and Jacksonville. Anthony Lynn was a hot commodity during the coaching carousel and is in place as the team's new head coach. Gus Bradley (defense) and Ken Whisenhunt (offense) form a strong one-two coordinator punch.

They have one of the league's top cornerback duos

In analyzing the Chargers' personnel, it's best to start with the defense, which is one of the most intriguing units in the NFL.

Verrett is back from last year's knee injury, and the 26-year-old lockdown corner joins Casey Hayward to form one of the league's top duos at the position. Hayward dominated while shadowing a ridiculously tough slate of wide receivers down the stretch last season. From Week 6 on, he limited the opposition to 41 receptions, 564 yards and one touchdown on 71 targets. That came despite having to shadow Demaryius Thomas (twice), Julio Jones, DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Kelvin Benjamin, Amari Cooper, Terrelle Pryor and Jeremy Maclin during that span.

Depth is an issue at corner, but the Chargers are sitting pretty at the top with Verrett and Hayward.

They have one of the league's best pass-rushing duos

Bosa didn't play until Week 5 last year, but it didn't take long for the 2016 first-rounder to show his dominance. He racked up 10.5 sacks and 18 tackles for loss on 538 snaps. Bosa will be book-ended by 2012 first-round pick Melvin Ingram, who just re-upped for four years and $66 million.

The rest of the defense is solid

Bradley is the team's new defensive coordinator following a disappointing stint as head coach in Jacksonville. This is notable because the Chargers are switching to a 4-3 scheme that allowed both Telvin Smith and Paul Posluszny to eclipse 1,000 snaps last year for the Jaguars. In L.A., Jatavis Brown and Denzel Perryman are likely to fill those shoes in Bradley's defense. Brown was a fifth-round steal in last year's draft and Perryman has been solid since being scooped up in the 2015 second round. Both linebackers are entering their prime.

Addae signed a four-year, $22 million extension during the offseason and leads a safety unit that also includes veteran Dwight Lowery, Adrian Phillips, Tre Boston and 2017 midround picks Rayshawn Jenkins and Desmond King. Mebane is now 32 years old, but is one of the game's top run-stuffers at nose tackle.

The Chargers' defense lacks depth and could use a bit more punch in the interior and at safety, but it is dominant on the edge and at cornerback and sports a solid pair of every-down linebackers. This is a unit that should be even better after leading the league in interceptions (18) and finishing second in tackles for loss (108) last season. At the very least, it's an above-average defense with the upside for a full-on breakout campaign.

If healthy, their offensive weapons should be much improved

On the offensive side of the ball, the story is more about an impressive amount of talented depth in the passing game.

Allen is back, though his durability is an obvious concern considering he has failed to appear in 16 games in a season and has missed 23 games over the past two years. Still, he's only 25 years old, has a pair of 70-plus reception campaigns and is reportedly back to full speed.

Behind Allen, there's Tyrell Williams, who busted out to the tune of 69 receptions, 1,059 yards and seven touchdowns last year. Speedster Travis Benjamin will be back at full health after a knee injury limited him during his first season with the Chargers. And, of course, there is 2017 seventh overall pick Mike Williams. The former Clemson star is off to a slow start as he recovers from a back injury, but wideouts selected in the top 10 over the past decade have been significantly involved and productive as rookies. At the very least, he adds depth to a talented until that also includes slot man Dontrelle Inman.

Future Hall of Famer Antonio Gates will return after tying Tony Gonzalez's record for most touchdowns by a tight end (111). Gates is now 37 years old, but will remain a significant component of the Chargers' passing game. His counterpart Hunter Henry, a second-round pick last year, was terrific as a rookie and is in line for an expanded role. It's easy to make a case that the Chargers have the league's best one-two punch at tight end.

As if that isn't enough, the Chargers will also be able to lean on Gordon, a third-year workhorse. The 2015 first-round pick is only 24 years old, and although he has missed five games during his first two seasons, he was productive while racking up 292 touches in 12 full games last season. Gordon scored 12 touchdowns and averaged 2.0 yards after contact per attempt, which ranked 16th among 69 backs with 50-plus carries.

Philip Rivers is one of the best in the business

Leading the passing game will, of course, be Rivers, who remains one of the game's best quarterbacks and most underrated players.

Despite the team's injury woes and recent struggles, he still managed to perform relatively well. Rivers, 35, has eclipsed 4,200 passing yards seven of the past eight seasons and has completed 65.1 percent of his attempts over the span (ranking seventh among 61 quarterbacks with 600-plus attempts). If we adjust for the depth of each throw, Rivers' accuracy rate comes in 4.1 percentage points above expected, which ranks fifth-best behind only Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, Kirk Cousins and Aaron Rodgers over the past decade.

The lingering concern

The big question for this Chargers team is the offensive line, but the good news is that it should be better than last year's underwhelming unit. Los Angeles signed Russell Okung away from Denver to play left tackle. Meanwhile, the team selected two of this year's top rookie interior linemen, Forrest Lamp (second round) and Dan Feeney (third). Both are expected to play a significant role -- likely as the starting guards -- on a line that also includes right tackle Joe Barksdale and center Matt Slauson.

Rivers is armed with more weapons than he has had in years and shouldn't have as much on his shoulders, thanks to the team's improved and emerging defense. As long as the line isn't a complete disaster, the offense should be able to match or improve on the 2.7 touchdowns per game it scored last year (12th in the league).

When analyzing a team's prospects, we tend to contradict ourselves. The Redskins are often criticized for overspending the free agency. The Eagles are still mocked for their attempt at the "Dream Team." Build through the draft -- not free agency, we tweet with hashtags galore. The Chargers have done exactly that, but get snubbed as a potential breakout in lieu of a team like Tampa Bay, which added a rookie tight end and an injury-plagued, 30-year-old deep threat (I'm being slightly flippant) to an otherwise pedestrian roster.

The Chargers have drafted and developed a strong core with talented veterans and/or emerging stars at nearly every position. They have the best team on paper in the AFC West and are primed for a return to the playoffs in 2017.


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Re: AFC West 

Post#174 » by Revived » Thu Jul 6, 2017 4:28 pm

I'd be surprised if the Chargers really win the division over the Raiders. Oakland just has so much talent on both sides of the ball and they've made great additions this off season as well.

I'm hopeful Chargers can get the 2nd wild card spot.

I think the division goes Raiders, Chargers, Chiefs, Broncos
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Re: AFC West 

Post#175 » by bsjaffe6 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:02 am

the one thing that really helps the Raiders is having Marshawn Lynch he can help these guys what it's like to be the hunted and wghat it takes to win those tough games in november and december
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Post#176 » by bwgood77 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:41 am

bsjaffe6 wrote:the one thing that really helps the Raiders is having Marshawn Lynch he can help these guys what it's like to be the hunted and wghat it takes to win those tough games in november and december


Oh man I forgot they signed him. Chargers luck continues with Mike Williams likely on the PUP to start the season. They can't catch any breaks with injuries.

Why not a Wizards fan? I see all these Washington logos and then the Lakers. Though I guess you could say the same about me with the Chargers..however I am also a Cards fan, but was a Chargers fan as a kid growing up and stuck with them.
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Post#177 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:19 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:Viva Las Vegas !!!

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Post#178 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:20 pm

Raiders obvious favorites behind them I got chargers
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Post#179 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Sep 7, 2017 4:46 pm

Do we finally get 3 teams from the AFC West make the playoffs this year or are the Broncos a Qb away from making it to go along with their championship defense?
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Post#180 » by GoRapstheoriginal » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:35 pm

Raiders & Chiefs looking good so far! Let's see if the Chargers & Broncos win as well!

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