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Rank Coaches
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:13 pm
by Cactus Jack
Rank coaches today.
Here is one thread from several years ago.
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=139&t=809763#start_here1. Belichick
2. Pete
3. Arians
4. Payton
5. Harbaugh
6. Reid
7. Zimmer
8. Tomlin
9. Kubiak
10.
Fisher
Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:04 pm
by bleu
Wow. I really did not remember that Jeff Fisher was held in such high regard just a few years ago.
Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:40 pm
by bluejerseyjinx
I feel Sean Peyton is just as good as any coach in the NFL today. Some coaches never get the talent or best situation at times. Hard to say who is the best. Hard to not put Bellichick up there as well.
Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:27 pm
by bleu
I'll make my list a little bit later. I'm surprised you've got Andy Reid so high though, cactus
Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:48 pm
by Latrell
1.Belicheat
2.Carroll
3.Arians
4.Harbaugh
5.Rivera
6.Tomlin
7.Zimmer
8.Kubiak
9.Reid
10.Bowles
11.Fox
12.Del Rio
13.Lewis
14.Bradley
15.McCarthy
16.McAdoo
17.Payton
18.O'Brien
19.Pederson
20.Kelly
21.Quinn
22.Koetter
23.Gruden
24.Pagano
25.Gase
26.Garrett
27.Ryan
28.Fisher
29.Jackson
30.McCoy
31.Caldwell
32.Mularkey
Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:50 pm
by Cactus Jack
bleu wrote:I'll make my list a little bit later. I'm surprised you've got Andy Reid so high though, cactus
Andy Reid is very consistent. Turned Philly into a winner. They haven't won much since he left. His teams always seem to be in the mix. I think after BB, Pete & Arians, its really tough to gauge honestly. If you base it off Super Bowls & playoff wins, then Belichick is clearly at the top. John Harbaugh usually has the Ravens in a good spot. Tomlin? Is he really a top notch coach? Or does it have more to do with Big Ben & the team having sustained success? Sean Payton? Mike McCarthy, etc.?
Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:05 pm
by Cactus Jack
Latrell wrote:1.Belicheat
2.Carroll
3.Arians
4.Harbaugh
5.Rivera
6.Tomlin
7.Zimmer
8.Kubiak
9.Reid
10.Bowles
11.Fox
12.Del Rio
13.Lewis
14.Bradley
15.McCarthy
16.McAdoo
17.Payton
18.O'Brien
19.Pederson
20.Kelly
21.Quinn
22.Koetter
23.Gruden
24.Pagano
25.Gase
26.Garrett
27.Ryan
28.Fisher
29.Jackson
30.McCoy
31.Caldwell
32.Mularkey
I would put Zimmer ahead of Rivera.
Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:13 pm
by Latrell
Ranking coaches is very tough. My list is highly subjective , mostly a mix of accomplishments and who I'd feel comfortable with making decisions in a close game.
Very tough to gauge some of the newer and/or first year coaches. Didn't want to punish them too much for simply not having HC experience. I also didn't want to rank them solely on accomplishments and SB's cause that'd be boring.
Re: RE: Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:14 pm
by bleu
Cactus Jack wrote:bleu wrote:I'll make my list a little bit later. I'm surprised you've got Andy Reid so high though, cactus
Andy Reid is very consistent. Turned Philly into a winner. They haven't won much since he left. His teams always seem to be in the mix. I think after BB, Pete & Arians, its really tough to gauge honestly. If you base it off Super Bowls & playoff wins, then Belichick is clearly at the top. John Harbaugh usually has the Ravens in a good spot. Tomlin? Is he really a top notch coach? Or does it have more to do with Big Ben & the team having sustained success? Sean Payton? Mike McCarthy, etc.?
I don't disagree with you at all, it just seems like people usually undervalue him so I was surprised to see him so high on a list. It's pretty remarkable how much he's done with how little he's had IMO.
Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:18 pm
by bwgood77
Cactus Jack wrote:bleu wrote:I'll make my list a little bit later. I'm surprised you've got Andy Reid so high though, cactus
Andy Reid is very consistent. Turned Philly into a winner. They haven't won much since he left. His teams always seem to be in the mix. I think after BB, Pete & Arians, its really tough to gauge honestly. If you base it off Super Bowls & playoff wins, then Belichick is clearly at the top. John Harbaugh usually has the Ravens in a good spot. Tomlin? Is he really a top notch coach? Or does it have more to do with Big Ben & the team having sustained success? Sean Payton? Mike McCarthy, etc.?
What you say about Tomlin you could also say about Belichick. He didn't do too much before he had Brady. He did pretty well the year without him and they won the other night, but I think Brady makes a huge difference. If he had to coach a team with a bottom 15 or 10 qb, would he still be as successful?
I imagine he would be pretty successful, and he's become a better coach over the years but much like Popovich, he started about the same time a franchise cornerstone (and one of the best players ever) was in place.
I think Tomlin is a really good coach. Definitely ahead of Reid. I do think the top 4 are all pretty close. Almost a toss up imo.
Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:27 pm
by Cactus Jack
bwgood77 wrote:What you say about Tomlin you could also say about Belichick. He didn't do too much before he had Brady. He did pretty well the year without him and they won the other night, but I think Brady makes a huge difference. If he had to coach a team with a bottom 15 or 10 qb, would he still be as successful?
The guy won with Matt Cassell. Add to that, he definitely knows how to dissect an opposing teams game plan.

Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:39 pm
by bwgood77
Cactus Jack wrote:bwgood77 wrote:What you say about Tomlin you could also say about Belichick. He didn't do too much before he had Brady. He did pretty well the year without him and they won the other night, but I think Brady makes a huge difference. If he had to coach a team with a bottom 15 or 10 qb, would he still be as successful?
The guy won with Matt Cassell. Add to that, he definitely knows how to dissect an opposing teams game plan.

I guess he had a winning record that year, but didn't make the playoffs. Lost the division to the Dolphins, led by the almighty Chad Pennington.
Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:41 pm
by Cactus Jack
bwgood77 wrote:Cactus Jack wrote:bwgood77 wrote:What you say about Tomlin you could also say about Belichick. He didn't do too much before he had Brady. He did pretty well the year without him and they won the other night, but I think Brady makes a huge difference. If he had to coach a team with a bottom 15 or 10 qb, would he still be as successful?
The guy won with Matt Cassell. Add to that, he definitely knows how to dissect an opposing teams game plan.

I guess he had a winning record that year, but didn't make the playoffs. Lost the division to the Dolphins, led by the almighty Chad Pennington.
11-5 record
Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:46 pm
by Latrell
Cactus Jack wrote:bwgood77 wrote:What you say about Tomlin you could also say about Belichick. He didn't do too much before he had Brady. He did pretty well the year without him and they won the other night, but I think Brady makes a huge difference. If he had to coach a team with a bottom 15 or 10 qb, would he still be as successful?
The guy won with Matt Cassell. Add to that,
he definitely knows how to dissect an opposing teams game plan.


Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:45 pm
by RavenMad31
Lol @ that Giants fan who said every coach in the league is better than Coughlin the September before his Giants pull off one of the biggest surprise wins in Super Bowl history.
I'm not feeling the brain power right now to contribute a comprehensive list, but Belichick is the gold standard by far.
I will add that I heard on Colin Cowherd recently a quote by Bill Walsh about there being two kinds of coaches in the NFL. There are coaches and there are gym teachers. Keeping that in mind really clarifies and galvanizes your perspective of guys. I might just go down the list and call coach/gym teacher on all 32 instead of trying to rank them which is almost impossible.
Jeff Fisher sucks. It really feels good to say it.
Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:09 pm
by bluejerseyjinx
1. Bellicheat
2. Peyton
3. Reid
4. Zimmer
5. Lewis
6. Carroll
30. Garrett
31. Ryan
32. Fischer
ARe: Rank Coaches
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:40 pm
by Cactus Jack
bluejerseyjinx wrote:1. Bellicheat
2. Peyton
3. Reid
4. Zimmer
5. Lewis
6. Carroll
30. Garrett
31. Ryan
32. Fischer
Marvin Lewis? Now your just trolling lol.
Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:10 am
by bluejerseyjinx
Would I be trolling if I said Fisher > Carroll. Nows a good time for the Rams to give Fisher a new contract extention. LMAO. The drama of the NFC West just kills me.
Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:49 am
by Otis Driftwood
I'm just going to say on behalf of my Redskins fan buddies that Jay Gruden belongs at the bottom of this list for the foreseeable future. He sucks. Although moving Rex Ryan from the bottom would be a terrible injustice.
Re: Rank Coaches
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:06 pm
by El Turco
1. fisher