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Re: Free Agents 2017: Early "where will they go" thread 

Post#41 » by therealbig3 » Wed Feb 8, 2017 7:11 am

I'd take Desean back with open arms. I think Otis is being a little too harsh with him, he's always been a very good receiver with legit impact, not an empty stats guy. He is a knucklehead though, he'll continue to showboat/argue and pick up dumb penalties, and he'll continue to avoid going over the middle to avoid big hits, but the good outweighs the bad.

He'd INSTANTLY be the best offensive player for Wentz to work with, by far.
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Post#42 » by therealbig3 » Wed Feb 8, 2017 7:12 am

I think Martellus Bennett is gone by the way. He mentioned it right after winning the SB when he was being interviewed, that teams overpay for SB winners. He's looking to get his money.

Which teams could use a TE?
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Post#43 » by Mind_Odyssey » Wed Feb 8, 2017 11:52 am

therealbig3 wrote:I think Martellus Bennett is gone by the way. He mentioned it right after winning the SB when he was being interviewed, that teams overpay for SB winners. He's looking to get his money.

Which teams could use a TE?


Why has he been so adamant about leaving NE?
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Post#44 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed Feb 8, 2017 1:17 pm

therealbig3 wrote:I think Martellus Bennett is gone by the way. He mentioned it right after winning the SB when he was being interviewed, that teams overpay for SB winners. He's looking to get his money.

Which teams could use a TE?


First off - you're right. He's gone. I saw the same thing you saw and it screamed "I got my ring - gonna go get my money now".

As far as "who needs a TE" - I guess it depends on what he thinks he's going to get paid. Looking at "Over The Cap" and TE's... Cameron gets $5M. And I see one team with a glaring need.

Giants.

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Post#45 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed Feb 8, 2017 1:25 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:I guess there is high interest in both Adrian Petersen and Demarcus Ware coming to the Cowboys.


I don't know why we would even be interested in AP. Not at what it would take for him to come here. And I love Ware (I know he's not one of your fav's :lol: ) but aging players with back issues are the kind of risk (even at the vet minimum) we need to move on from.
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Post#46 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed Feb 8, 2017 1:27 pm

Mind_Odyssey wrote:Cleveland cut Tramon Williams and Josh Mccown. They're expected to release RG3. That clears up an extra $15 mil in cap space. That'd put us at $112 million in total cap space and that's including the extension we gave Jamie Collins already. There's quite a few other guys I can see being cut too.


So... you need a QB. Again.





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Re: Free Agents 2017: Early "where will they go" thread 

Post#47 » by Mind_Odyssey » Wed Feb 8, 2017 2:18 pm

Otis Driftwood wrote:
Mind_Odyssey wrote:Cleveland cut Tramon Williams and Josh Mccown. They're expected to release RG3. That clears up an extra $15 mil in cap space. That'd put us at $112 million in total cap space and that's including the extension we gave Jamie Collins already. There's quite a few other guys I can see being cut too.


So... you need a QB. Again.





Sorry Bro. I can't help it.


Unless they wanted to roll out Kessler as a starter, we needed one anyways. I'm just praying we don't draft Watson over Myles Garrett. I don't care what the idiots in the media say.
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Post#48 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed Feb 8, 2017 3:03 pm

Mind_Odyssey wrote:
Otis Driftwood wrote:
Mind_Odyssey wrote:Cleveland cut Tramon Williams and Josh Mccown. They're expected to release RG3. That clears up an extra $15 mil in cap space. That'd put us at $112 million in total cap space and that's including the extension we gave Jamie Collins already. There's quite a few other guys I can see being cut too.


So... you need a QB. Again.





Sorry Bro. I can't help it.


Unless they wanted to roll out Kessler as a starter, we needed one anyways. I'm just praying we don't draft Watson over Myles Garrett. I don't care what the idiots in the media say.


I'm with you. I have a standing rule about QB's. Unless they are absolutely "Can't Miss", always take the best player available with the #1 pick. Garrett is as sure fire an immediate starter and impact player as anyone in the draft.
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Post#49 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Feb 8, 2017 4:10 pm

Otis Driftwood wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:I guess there is high interest in both Adrian Petersen and Demarcus Ware coming to the Cowboys.


I don't know why we would even be interested in AP. Not at what it would take for him to come here. And I love Ware (I know he's not one of your fav's :lol: ) but aging players with back issues are the kind of risk (even at the vet minimum) we need to move on from.

I didn't mean to apply we had interest in them. They have interest in coming to big - D.
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Post#50 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Feb 8, 2017 4:13 pm

Otis Driftwood wrote:
Mind_Odyssey wrote:Cleveland cut Tramon Williams and Josh Mccown. They're expected to release RG3. That clears up an extra $15 mil in cap space. That'd put us at $112 million in total cap space and that's including the extension we gave Jamie Collins already. There's quite a few other guys I can see being cut too.


So... you need a QB. Again.





Sorry Bro. I can't help it.

Hey, how about Romo for one of your first round picks. I'd go for that. Lets see if Jerry is really the business man everyone says he is.
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Post#51 » by Mind_Odyssey » Wed Feb 8, 2017 9:21 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Otis Driftwood wrote:
Mind_Odyssey wrote:Cleveland cut Tramon Williams and Josh Mccown. They're expected to release RG3. That clears up an extra $15 mil in cap space. That'd put us at $112 million in total cap space and that's including the extension we gave Jamie Collins already. There's quite a few other guys I can see being cut too.


So... you need a QB. Again.





Sorry Bro. I can't help it.

Hey, how about Romo for one of your first round picks. I'd go for that. Lets see if Jerry is really the business man everyone says he is.


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Post#52 » by Otis Driftwood » Thu Feb 9, 2017 12:20 am

Mind_Odyssey wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Otis Driftwood wrote:
So... you need a QB. Again.





Sorry Bro. I can't help it.

Hey, how about Romo for one of your first round picks. I'd go for that. Lets see if Jerry is really the business man everyone says he is.


Is there a negative And-1 feature on this site? :P


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Post#53 » by Mich3006 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:09 am

Mind_Odyssey wrote:Cleveland cut Tramon Williams and Josh Mccown. They're expected to release RG3. That clears up an extra $15 mil in cap space. That'd put us at $112 million in total cap space and that's including the extension we gave Jamie Collins already. There's quite a few other guys I can see being cut too.

I think they should keep him at least this season. The Browns shouldn´t "waste" another high pick for a QB, their top-priorities should be their secondary and the O-Line. RGIII is an injured-prone player but he has the talent to deliver if the O-Line is at least solid.

therealbig3 wrote:I think Martellus Bennett is gone by the way. He mentioned it right after winning the SB when he was being interviewed, that teams overpay for SB winners. He's looking to get his money.

Which teams could use a TE?

Rumor has it that Gronk will be gone this offseason, and I think this would be a smart decision. Gronk´s contract expires after next year and even if Bennett demand big money he won´t be that expensive like Gronkowski.

The Bears will offer a nice package and I think the Patriots will think twice about their TE-situation.
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Post#54 » by Mind_Odyssey » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:21 am

Ayatollah wrote:
Mind_Odyssey wrote:Cleveland cut Tramon Williams and Josh Mccown. They're expected to release RG3. That clears up an extra $15 mil in cap space. That'd put us at $112 million in total cap space and that's including the extension we gave Jamie Collins already. There's quite a few other guys I can see being cut too.

I think they should keep him at least this season. The Browns shouldn´t "waste" another high pick for a QB, their top-priorities should be their secondary and the O-Line. RGIII is an injured-prone player but he has the talent to deliver if the O-Line is at least solid.

therealbig3 wrote:I think Martellus Bennett is gone by the way. He mentioned it right after winning the SB when he was being interviewed, that teams overpay for SB winners. He's looking to get his money.

Which teams could use a TE?

Rumor has it that Gronk will be gone this offseason, and I think this would be a smart decision. Gronk´s contract expires after next year and even if Bennett demand big money he won´t be that expensive like Gronkowski.

The Bears will offer a nice package and I think the Patriots will think twice about their TE-situation.


From what I understand Hue said the biggest problem with the offense last year was the consistent " Voice " behind center. When your OL doesn't know who's starting from week to week it's ten times harder to prepare. From what I understand Hues Ideal QB doesn't need to have a 50 cal attached to his shoulder, or exceptional Wheels. He needs to be smart, accurate, and Have great anticipation on breaks. But most importantly above all else he needs to command the huddle, the calls, and the adjustments. Some of his calls demand a certain tone that determines the length and the depth of route. He apparently spent hours last year with the QBS just on communication and speaking in the huddle. If you can't control your voice and command Hues offense becomes complex and confusing. Hues said multiple times in QB meetings that the reason a play didn't work was because the play was delivered inaccurately to rest of the 10 guys. So when it came to blocking the OL tendency was to guess and unfortunately that fell on Ervin " the weak link " their words exactly. If you took McCowns command and understand of the playbook and gave to Cody. Give Cody alittle better arm to jolt the ball to the outside we wouldn't be having this QB controversy again. I Hues offense is designed much like Gregg Williams defense where it masks deficiencies or flaws of the QB and plays to their strengths. The only thing you have to be Elite it is understand and command.
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Post#55 » by Otis Driftwood » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:32 pm

Mind_Odyssey wrote:
From what I understand Hue said the biggest problem with the offense last year was the consistent " Voice " behind center. When your OL doesn't know who's starting from week to week it's ten times harder to prepare. From what I understand Hues Ideal QB doesn't need to have a 50 cal attached to his shoulder, or exceptional Wheels. He needs to be smart, accurate, and Have great anticipation on breaks. But most importantly above all else he needs to command the huddle, the calls, and the adjustments. Some of his calls demand a certain tone that determines the length and the depth of route. He apparently spent hours last year with the QBS just on communication and speaking in the huddle. If you can't control your voice and command Hues offense becomes complex and confusing. Hues said multiple times in QB meetings that the reason a play didn't work was because the play was delivered inaccurately to rest of the 10 guys. So when it came to blocking the OL tendency was to guess and unfortunately that fell on Ervin " the weak link " their words exactly. If you took McCowns command and understand of the playbook and gave to Cody. Give Cody alittle better arm to jolt the ball to the outside we wouldn't be having this QB controversy again. I Hues offense is designed much like Gregg Williams defense where it masks deficiencies or flaws of the QB and plays to their strengths. The only thing you have to be Elite it is understand and command.


Only problem with the "masking" of the QB deficiencies... if he has little in the area of weapons, it's hard to mask that too.
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Post#56 » by Mind_Odyssey » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:35 pm

I feel in regard to weapons that we only need 2 more max. A slot wide receiver and another tight end. Crowell was leading the league in rushing until teams finally realized you can put 9 guys in the box because our QBs couldn't throw it deep.
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Post#57 » by Otis Driftwood » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:29 pm

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Post#58 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:40 pm


I'd love to have him.
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Post#59 » by Otis Driftwood » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:20 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:

I'd love to have him.


Me too. If he's healthy, he can play!
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Post#60 » by jwise44 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:10 pm

I still want Telly to come home!!! But it sucks he wants to go after his money since he got his ring, I hadn't heard that:(...I wanted a hometown discount!

Victor Cruz would be a great get if he comes cheap

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