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49ers struck gold with Jimmy G
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:14 pm
by Pharmcat
4-0 record and going into the draft they dont have to worry about QB because that has now been addressed. what a steal of a trade. Belichick definitely messed up this trade and traded at the lowest leverage point, and the 49ers got their franchise qb . SF can now address their other holes and they will be the next Rams in how they immediately turn around. Feel bad for Browns, but I get a feeling Belichick would never trade him there because didnt CLE fire him back in the day?
Re: 49ers struck gold with Jimmy G
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:02 pm
by RavenMad31
Pharmcat wrote:4-0 record and going into the draft they dont have to worry about QB because that has now been addressed. what a steal of a trade. Belichick definitely messed up this trade and traded at the lowest leverage point, and the 49ers got their franchise qb . SF can now address their other holes and they will be the next Rams in how they immediately turn around. Feel bad for Browns, but I get a feeling Belichick would never trade him there because didnt CLE fire him back in the day?
There's been a lot of speculation on sports yak that Belichick probably would have rather moved off of Brady and kept Garoppolo, but Kraft wouldn't have it. There's just no way with as shrewd and cold blooded as he has been with personnel over the years that he would just not know the market value of what he's holding. Even at the point they made the trade, the leverage would have been their's as long as a second team would have been interested. My guess is that it's not too difficult to generate interest in a potential franchise QB that has been able to show his potential with real NFL snaps on his resume.
Re: 49ers struck gold with Jimmy G
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:31 pm
by Worm Guts
Pharmcat wrote:4-0 record and going into the draft they dont have to worry about QB because that has now been addressed. what a steal of a trade. Belichick definitely messed up this trade and traded at the lowest leverage point, and the 49ers got their franchise qb . SF can now address their other holes and they will be the next Rams in how they immediately turn around. Feel bad for Browns, but I get a feeling Belichick would never trade him there because didnt CLE fire him back in the day?
I don't know exactly when Belicheck could have traded him with Brady at 40 and Garappolo as a FA. Before this year, you had to assume Jimmy was the heir apparent, but if Brady wants to play past this year Jimmy is going to walk as a FA. Kind of a rock and hard place situation. I think you could argue the best move would be to cut Brady given his age, but man that would take balls.
Re: 49ers struck gold with Jimmy G
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:53 am
by Ballerhogger
Worm Guts wrote:Pharmcat wrote:4-0 record and going into the draft they dont have to worry about QB because that has now been addressed. what a steal of a trade. Belichick definitely messed up this trade and traded at the lowest leverage point, and the 49ers got their franchise qb . SF can now address their other holes and they will be the next Rams in how they immediately turn around. Feel bad for Browns, but I get a feeling Belichick would never trade him there because didnt CLE fire him back in the day?
Would never cut Brady . Jimmy should of been traded a year befor e
I don't know exactly when Belicheck could have traded him with Brady at 40 and Garappolo as a FA. Before this year, you had to assume Jimmy was the heir apparent, but if Brady wants to play past this year Jimmy is going to walk as a FA. Kind of a rock and hard place situation. I think you could argue the best move would be to cut Brady given his age, but man that would take balls.
Re: 49ers struck gold with Jimmy G
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:54 am
by Ballerhogger
Worm Guts wrote:Pharmcat wrote:4-0 record and going into the draft they dont have to worry about QB because that has now been addressed. what a steal of a trade. Belichick definitely messed up this trade and traded at the lowest leverage point, and the 49ers got their franchise qb . SF can now address their other holes and they will be the next Rams in how they immediately turn around. Feel bad for Browns, but I get a feeling Belichick would never trade him there because didnt CLE fire him back in the day?
I don't know exactly when Belicheck could have traded him with Brady at 40 and Garappolo as a FA. Before this year, you had to assume Jimmy was the heir apparent, but if Brady wants to play past this year Jimmy is going to walk as a FA. Kind of a rock and hard place situation. I think you could argue the best move would be to cut Brady given his age, but man that would take balls.
Would never cut Brady and should traded jimmy year before
Re: 49ers struck gold with Jimmy G
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:37 am
by Worm Guts
Ballerhogger wrote:Worm Guts wrote:Pharmcat wrote:4-0 record and going into the draft they dont have to worry about QB because that has now been addressed. what a steal of a trade. Belichick definitely messed up this trade and traded at the lowest leverage point, and the 49ers got their franchise qb . SF can now address their other holes and they will be the next Rams in how they immediately turn around. Feel bad for Browns, but I get a feeling Belichick would never trade him there because didnt CLE fire him back in the day?
I don't know exactly when Belicheck could have traded him with Brady at 40 and Garappolo as a FA. Before this year, you had to assume Jimmy was the heir apparent, but if Brady wants to play past this year Jimmy is going to walk as a FA. Kind of a rock and hard place situation. I think you could argue the best move would be to cut Brady given his age, but man that would take balls.
Would never cut Brady and should traded jimmy year before
Hindsight, and that hindsight might look different in a year or two (ie should kept Garappolo).
Re: 49ers struck gold with Jimmy G
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:15 am
by Pharmcat
last draft is when they shouldve traded him
Re: 49ers struck gold with Jimmy G
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:41 am
by Ballerhogger
Pharmcat wrote:last draft is when they shouldve traded him
Agreed
Re: 49ers struck gold with Jimmy G
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:58 pm
by FNQ
Pharmcat wrote:last draft is when they shouldve traded him
Yup, and I think them holding onto him through the draft told most teams that they were keeping him through this year, and possibly beyond.
Not only the Browns, but many other teams should be kicking the hell out of themselves for letting the Niners get him for that price. The Bears, the Jags, the Broncos, the Jets/Dolphins/Bills (though I doubt Pats would trade in division if they could avoid it), Bengals, Cardinals.. so many teams needed a long-term answer at QB. Niners are going to get their franchise QB for a pick in the 40s.
Re: 49ers struck gold with Jimmy G
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:45 pm
by bluejerseyjinx
I see in the very near future a new revived top rivalry in the NFC that involves the Cowboys and 49ers !!! The early 70's and 90's all over again.
Re: 49ers struck gold with Jimmy G
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:11 am
by Pharmcat
FNQ wrote:Pharmcat wrote:last draft is when they shouldve traded him
Yup, and I think them holding onto him through the draft told most teams that they were keeping him through this year, and possibly beyond.
Not only the Browns, but many other teams should be kicking the hell out of themselves for letting the Niners get him for that price. The Bears, the Jags, the Broncos, the Jets/Dolphins/Bills (though I doubt Pats would trade in division if they could avoid it), Bengals, Cardinals.. so many teams needed a long-term answer at QB. Niners are going to get their franchise QB for a pick in the 40s.
i just dont think they wouldve traded him in AFC in order to avoid him in the playoffs
Re: 49ers struck gold with Jimmy G
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:10 pm
by Celtsfan1980
Cousins will likely be a free agent, and was frequently linked to San Fransisco. You'd have to see who plays better between the two as to whether it was a good decision.