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Jon Gruden would eliminate instant replay from the NFL, and he isn’t alone

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:01 am
by HMFFL
It didn’t take long for Jon Gruden to transition from NFL television analyst back to NFL coach. In fact, it happened so quickly that he is already taking aim at one of the innovations that revolutionized the way people watch games on television.

Gruden, now the coach of the Oakland Raiders, would love, love to get rid of instant replay. That’s right. If it were up to him, the invention that allowed minute scrutiny of every single play from every single angle — offering professional and amateur pundits alike the opportunity to opine ad infinitum — would be toast.

“I don’t like a lot of these news rules. I don’t understand ’em. I’d like to eliminate instant replay, honestly,” Gruden told reporters Tuesday during the NFL’s annual meetings in Orlando. “That would be my No. 1 thing. Let the officials call the game. That’s just my opinion. I try not to play that game of ‘wish-list,’ you know what I mean?” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/03/28/jon-gruden-would-eliminate-instant-replay-from-the-nfl-and-he-isnt-alone/?utm_term=.7f195eea9d81

Re: Jon Gruden would eliminate instant replay from the NFL, and he isn’t alone

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:30 pm
by lobosloboslobos
It's been quite fascinating to see how video replay has evolved in the NFL. I think that there are many examples where it has served its purpose in key situations allowing the correct call to be made where a blatant error was made. But also it's pretty obvious that the micro examination of stuff has gotten to an unreasonable level. Has it gotten so problematic that it can't be fixed and would be better thrown out altogether? I'm kind of surprised to hear Gruden say that. He's saying that combination of the delays and the calls that are still argued even when decided by video make it not worth it and we'd be better off accepting some mistakes but letting it unfold in real time. Not sure I agree but if it happened I wouldn't mind so much. The problem is with TV we viewers have access to so much info the refs in real time don't and it then causes hell when mistakes are made and instantly understood by viewers as mistakes but nothing can be done about it.

personally I'd try and fix it rather than throw it out.

Re: Jon Gruden would eliminate instant replay from the NFL, and he isn’t alone

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:49 am
by Bulltalk
How about going back to the simplicity of it? Each side gets three challenges. You lose a timeout if you lose the challenge. And that's all the instant replay you get the whole game. Not on every TD play. Not in the last few minutes. They kept adding and adding to it. Became so time consuming. And if you can't see reason to overturn the call in some small time frame, then it's not over-turn-able.

Re: Jon Gruden would eliminate instant replay from the NFL, and he isn’t alone

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:01 pm
by High 5
Every score and turnover being reviewed is great. They just need to be quicker on average. People sitting on their couch at home can usually tell from the first replay whether or not it was a good call.

Re: Jon Gruden would eliminate instant replay from the NFL, and he isn’t alone

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:34 pm
by Bulltalk
High 5 wrote:Every score and turnover being reviewed is great. They just need to be quicker on average. People sitting on their couch at home can usually tell from the first replay whether or not it was a good call.


I disagree. But that's life. I like to see the game actually being played, not constantly interrupted and bogged down.

Re: Jon Gruden would eliminate instant replay from the NFL, and he isn’t alone

Posted: Sun Apr 1, 2018 2:16 am
by High 5
Bulltalk wrote:
High 5 wrote:Every score and turnover being reviewed is great. They just need to be quicker on average. People sitting on their couch at home can usually tell from the first replay whether or not it was a good call.


I disagree. But that's life. I like to see the game actually being played, not constantly interrupted and bogged down.


They're going to get their commercial breaks in anyway. Much better for them to make sure the correct calls are made in the meantime. If they made the process quicker it would be perfect. It's so much worse to know that a game-deciding call was incorrect but nothing was done about it because a team was out of challenges or it was under 2 minutes and play wasn't stopped.

Re: Jon Gruden would eliminate instant replay from the NFL, and he isn’t alone

Posted: Mon Apr 2, 2018 10:05 am
by therealbig3
Yeah, I can't agree with eliminating replay...I think it's crucial to have it for scoring plays and turnovers. Saves coaches from burning challenges/timeouts to try and get the call right...coaches shouldn't need to be pressured into using a challenge because the ref messed up a scoring play or a turnover.

The only problem is how long it takes. But whatever, I can live with it. It's a small price to pay for getting the calls right.

Re: Jon Gruden would eliminate instant replay from the NFL, and he isn’t alone

Posted: Thu Apr 5, 2018 2:28 pm
by anatomicbomb
This, to me, reads more as clear evidence that Gruden has not adapted to a changing world/game, and will not change. I'd be really worried if my coach said, "I don't understand [the new rules]." RIP Raiders.

Re: Jon Gruden would eliminate instant replay from the NFL, and he isn’t alone

Posted: Thu Apr 5, 2018 2:31 pm
by anatomicbomb
Bulltalk wrote:How about going back to the simplicity of it? Each side gets three challenges. You lose a timeout if you lose the challenge. And that's all the instant replay you get the whole game. Not on every TD play. Not in the last few minutes. They kept adding and adding to it. Became so time consuming. And if you can't see reason to overturn the call in some small time frame, then it's not over-turn-able.



I'm often surprised by how long it seems to take the officiating crew to get the 'right' angle to make the call. As a viewer, my impression is that it's frequently the case that I have a clear view of what happened, and then we see that they're labouring over an angle that doesn't provide the right information to make a decision. TV Crews do it as well, but the decision of the best way to see a given play should be a pretty simple call by one of the video techs in the booth.

Re: Jon Gruden would eliminate instant replay from the NFL, and he isn’t alone

Posted: Thu Apr 5, 2018 2:35 pm
by anatomicbomb
HMFFL wrote:It didn’t take long for Jon Gruden to transition from NFL television analyst back to NFL coach. In fact, it happened so quickly that he is already taking aim at one of the innovations that revolutionized the way people watch games on television.

Gruden, now the coach of the Oakland Raiders, would love, love to get rid of instant replay. That’s right. If it were up to him, the invention that allowed minute scrutiny of every single play from every single angle — offering professional and amateur pundits alike the opportunity to opine ad infinitum — would be toast.

“I don’t like a lot of these news rules. I don’t understand ’em. I’d like to eliminate instant replay, honestly,” Gruden told reporters Tuesday during the NFL’s annual meetings in Orlando. “That would be my No. 1 thing. Let the officials call the game. That’s just my opinion. I try not to play that game of ‘wish-list,’ you know what I mean?” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/03/28/jon-gruden-would-eliminate-instant-replay-from-the-nfl-and-he-isnt-alone/?utm_term=.7f195eea9d81



"I'd like a game of men being men, running straight forward for 3.34 yards or punting for field position. Speaking of kicking, do we really need it? Used to be you played this game in a field or swamp, without lines and all these other modern inventions. I remember a time when you had to fight a tiger while hanging onto the ball, and now players are worried about getting their little toes inbounds.
I remember when you played without pads, in a volcano, against the old gods."

Re: Jon Gruden would eliminate instant replay from the NFL, and he isn’t alone

Posted: Sat Apr 7, 2018 3:49 am
by Ballerhogger
It does slow the game down agreed

Re: Jon Gruden would eliminate instant replay from the NFL, and he isn’t alone

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:30 am
by The Box Office
This is hilarious. Jon Gruden wants to eliminate this. But when it happens to him on the field, he'll be like "Instant replay! Instant replay!"

Then he'll be like "Thank God for instant replay."