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Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 1:41 pm
by Black Mage
Per various outlets the League is considering a major rule change. It is a two part rule being discussed
1. Home team decides if both teams stay in locker room or go onto field.
2. If on the field all players must stand and any player who kneels will be assessed a 15 yard penalty.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23575615/with-no-answer-tuesday-nfl-owners-resume-national-anthem-discussionsSome thoughts:
Here are the following other areas that should also be penalized if we are oh so concerned about respecting the flag:
1. Ticket entry - all entrances to the stadium should stand still for the anthem.
2. Concessions - all concessions must cease and stand still for the anthem.
3. Fans - all fans must cease movement and stand still for the anthem, including on concourses and other non-seating areas.
4. Camera crews - all camera crews must cease movement and stand still for the anthem.
Failure on the part of any individual should result in the assessment of a 15 yard penalty against the home team, except if said violating fans are wearing opposing team colors/gear.
I mean, if people CARE SO MUCH about the Flag and Anthem then make sure EVERYONE respects it. Let's see how fast public interest fades once it starts to infringe on their ability to act.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 2:14 pm
by Otis Driftwood
Just go back to the way it used to be. Play the anthem then let the teams come out. The league is trying to have it both ways and there is no way they can win in this.
So - just stop.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 2:35 pm
by Black Mage
Otis Driftwood wrote:Just go back to the way it used to be. Play the anthem then let the teams come out. The league is trying to have it both ways and there is no way they can win in this.
So - just stop.
I agree. That was kinda the intent of my post, it's an absurd issue.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 2:43 pm
by Otis Driftwood
Black Mage wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:Just go back to the way it used to be. Play the anthem then let the teams come out. The league is trying to have it both ways and there is no way they can win in this.
So - just stop.
I agree. That was kinda the intent of my post, it's an absurd issue.
Yeah - I took your post exactly as you meant it... with tongue planted firmly in cheek. This thing has moved beyond ridiculous. And based on the history of why they started doing it in the first place (money), it's outlived its usefulness.
It didn't seem to hurt the game in the 80's or 90's to keep the team off the field while the anthem played. I don't see the point anymore other than to serve the interests of a few myopics.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 3:13 pm
by bluejerseyjinx
I've always wanted politics out of sports. Its just a matter of time before politicians ruin sports. Stay the hell away from our theraputic escape from the daily grind of everyday life and the real world that we have to put up with.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 4:37 pm
by GoRapstheoriginal
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 4:54 pm
by Bulltalk
5) Bathrooms will be barred and fans will refrain from urinating and emptying their bowels during the national anthem.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 5:14 pm
by clyde21
Just stop with national anthem BS before events in its entirety. No one wants to hear that **** song anyways.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 5:48 pm
by Bulltalk
clyde21 wrote:Just stop with national anthem BS before events in its entirety. No one wants to hear that **** song anyways.
No. Absolutely not. As a matter of fact, I think the national anthem should be played before...
--Movies in theaters
--Concerts of all kinds
--Awards shows like the Oscars
--Authorized political rallies
--Campaign appearances
--Religious services
--etc...
It's about time that all public gatherings start taking the example set by sports.
MAGA.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 5:55 pm
by clyde21
Bulltalk wrote:clyde21 wrote:Just stop with national anthem BS before events in its entirety. No one wants to hear that **** song anyways.
No. Absolutely not. As a matter of fact, I think the national anthem should be played before...
--Movies in theaters
--Concerts of all kinds
--Awards shows like the Oscars
--Authorized political rallies
--Campaign appearances
--Religious services
--etc...
It's about time that all public gatherings start taking the example set by sports.
MAGA.
No, what we need to play the national anthem twice. Just in case the first one doesn't remind people this is murca.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 6:13 pm
by Otis Driftwood
Bulltalk wrote:clyde21 wrote:Just stop with national anthem BS before events in its entirety. No one wants to hear that **** song anyways.
No. Absolutely not. As a matter of fact, I think the national anthem should be played before...
--Movies in theaters--Concerts of all kinds
--Awards shows like the Oscars
--Authorized political rallies
--Campaign appearances
--Religious services
--etc...
It's about time that all public gatherings start taking the example set by sports.
MAGA.
It is... in military theaters.
Which was always a good time for us serious minded airmen to stand at attention and go "Psssshhhhh!!!!" every time the cymbals go off during the anthem. And as the theater was dark, it wasn't like some officer with a burr up his arse was going to issue a Letter of Reprimand or something.
Good times.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 6:15 pm
by Otis Driftwood
clyde21 wrote:
No, what we need to play the national anthem twice. Just in case the first one doesn't remind people this is murca.
I only have one requirement for the anthem. No more than 1 1/2 minutes. More than that and you are toying with the crowd.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 6:18 pm
by monopoman
Why don't they play the national anthem before every show starts and ends. How about having it played at least once during all commercial breaks. I never understood why Pro Sports was the one time the national anthem is played before each game. Sure, I get it's inclusion in the Olympics for the gold medal team or individual but before every pro sports game when almost every game is an American based team vs. an American based team.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 7:44 pm
by Pacers_Freak
monopoman wrote:Why don't they play the national anthem before every show starts and ends. How about having it played at least once during all commercial breaks. I never understood why Pro Sports was the one time the national anthem is played before each game. Sure, I get it's inclusion in the Olympics for the gold medal team or individual but before every pro sports game when almost every game is an American based team vs. an American based team.
It isn't limited to pro sports. College, high school, etc as well.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:18 pm
by Bulltalk
Otis Driftwood wrote:Bulltalk wrote:clyde21 wrote:Just stop with national anthem BS before events in its entirety. No one wants to hear that **** song anyways.
No. Absolutely not. As a matter of fact, I think the national anthem should be played before...
--Movies in theaters--Concerts of all kinds
--Awards shows like the Oscars
--Authorized political rallies
--Campaign appearances
--Religious services
--etc...
It's about time that all public gatherings start taking the example set by sports.
MAGA.
It is... in military theaters.
Which was always a good time for us serious minded airmen to stand at attention and go "Psssshhhhh!!!!" every time the cymbals go off during the anthem. And as the theater was dark, it wasn't like some officer with a burr up his arse was going to issue a Letter of Reprimand or something.
Good times.
i didn't know that, and I came from a military family, though I didn't enlist myself.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 11:42 pm
by Otis Driftwood
Bulltalk wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:Bulltalk wrote:
No. Absolutely not. As a matter of fact, I think the national anthem should be played before...
--Movies in theaters
--Concerts of all kinds
--Awards shows like the Oscars
--Authorized political rallies
--Campaign appearances
--Religious services
--etc...
It's about time that all public gatherings start taking the example set by sports.
MAGA.
It is... in military theaters.
Which was always a good time for us serious minded airmen to stand at attention and go "Psssshhhhh!!!!" every time the cymbals go off during the anthem. And as the theater was dark, it wasn't like some officer with a burr up his arse was going to issue a Letter of Reprimand or something.
Good times.
i didn't know that, and I came from a military family, though I didn't enlist myself.
In Texas... in England... in Hawaii... in Greece...
“psssshhhhh!!!!”
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 2:20 am
by Black Mage
They should have to play the Anthem at the start of every hole when Trump golf every weekend.
Without Melania there who will remind him to cover his heart????
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 2:24 am
by Black Mage
Otis Driftwood wrote:Black Mage wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:Just go back to the way it used to be. Play the anthem then let the teams come out. The league is trying to have it both ways and there is no way they can win in this.
So - just stop.
I agree. That was kinda the intent of my post, it's an absurd issue.
Yeah - I took your post exactly as you meant it... with tongue planted firmly in cheek. This thing has moved beyond ridiculous. And based on the history of why they started doing it in the first place (money), it's outlived its usefulness.
It didn't seem to hurt the game in the 80's or 90's to keep the team off the field while the anthem played. I don't see the point anymore other than to serve the interests of a few myopics.
Sadly the NFL apparently took it serious.
Vierwership is down because they oversaturated the weekly market which also killed options for Sunday matchup. Second, they neutered one of the main reasons we loved the game, bonecrushing hits on ALL players, including pansy qbs like Brady.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 8:34 am
by Blazers-1977
At the end of the day, the whole reason this became such a mess for the NFL is because of Goodell's total and utter mishandling of the situation.
Even if this issue goes away, I am sure there will probably be another huge controversy surrounding the NFL due to Goodell's incompetence.
Re: Possible New Anthem Rules
Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 12:17 pm
by Otis Driftwood
Black Mage wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:Black Mage wrote:
I agree. That was kinda the intent of my post, it's an absurd issue.
Yeah - I took your post exactly as you meant it... with tongue planted firmly in cheek. This thing has moved beyond ridiculous. And based on the history of why they started doing it in the first place (money), it's outlived its usefulness.
It didn't seem to hurt the game in the 80's or 90's to keep the team off the field while the anthem played. I don't see the point anymore other than to serve the interests of a few myopics.
Sadly the NFL apparently took it serious.
Vierwership is down because they oversaturated the weekly market which also killed options for Sunday matchup. Second, they neutered one of the main reasons we loved the game, bonecrushing hits on ALL players, including pansy qbs like Brady.
And now, we have a new flag football league. Wonder how they will legislate out groin pulls?