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Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:58 pm
by carson33
ESPN posted their "all under 25" team and had Saquon who's never played a snap over Zeke who lead the league in rushing as a rookie and who the Cowboys sucked without last season
Another example of people overrating Saquon
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Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:44 pm
by Bulltalk
carson33 wrote:ESPN posted their "all under 25" team and had Saquon who's never played a snap over Zeke who lead the league in rushing as a rookie and who the Cowboys sucked without last season
Another example of people overrating Saquon
Of course he's overrated. You're a Jets' fan.
Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:05 am
by carson33
He was also called the best RB prospect since Bo, not even better than Fournette when he came out last year
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Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:11 am
by Otis Driftwood
ESPN webmaster - “How can we generate hits to advertise our ESPN+ pay service?”
Booger eating PSU grad - “I have an idea...”
Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:46 am
by bondom34
lol at not better than Fournette
Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:08 am
by Pacercoltboiler
Hope he proves me wrong, but is a big guy who plays small. When PSU had a banged up line, he didn't do squat. Rooting for the kid, but seems like just another receiving back.
Re: RE: Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:15 pm
by carson33
bondom34 wrote:lol at not better than Fournette
Fournette was looked at as the next AP coming out of HS. Bigger and Stronger than Saquon, and given his size his speed is more impressive too
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Re: RE: Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:22 pm
by bondom34
carson33 wrote:bondom34 wrote:lol at not better than Fournette
Fournette was looked at as the next AP coming out of HS. Bigger and Stronger than Saquon, and given his size his speed is more impressive too
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And Barkley had two college seasons better than he did. I don't really care who did what in high school. Barkley had entire defenses change for him and still put up two dominant years in the big ten. And that even ignores his freshman year. He by far outgained Fournette in the same number of years.
Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:23 pm
by carson33
Saquon had really good QB play, Fournette had crap QB play so defenses could stack and box and only focus on Fournette unlike Saquon
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Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:25 pm
by bondom34
carson33 wrote:Saquon had really good QB play, Fournette had crap QB play so defenses could stack and box and only focus on Fournette unlike Saquon
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And Saquon had no o line. At all.
Also Etling wasnt terrible.
Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:26 pm
by bondom34
Though guessing if the Jets took Barkley this thread wouldn't be about him.
Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:30 am
by Ballerhogger
He was quite amazing at penn state he doesn’t come with Zeke baggage but right now can’t say that . He can however do it all so he’ll be fun to watch
Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:08 am
by bluejerseyjinx
Don't know if he is over rated or under rated. The kid hasn't even taken one NFL snap yet.
Re: RE: Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:44 pm
by carson33
bluejerseyjinx wrote:Don't know if he is over rated or under rated. The kid hasn't even taken one NFL snap yet.
The fact that he hasn't played a game yet and is already supposedly better than arguably the best RB in the league makes him overrated
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Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:09 pm
by bmurph128
As an Ohio State fan I watched quite a bit of Saquon, and obviously Zeke.
Comparing them in college is no comparison at all - Saquon utterly and completely destroys Zeke - who has the luxury of running behind the best OL in the NFL.
Zeke is not better than Gurley or Bell, and maybe even not David Johnson if he comes back healthy.
But I do agree that Zeke should be over him right now for an all under 25 team. Having said that, Barkley is the best RB I've ever seen in college.
Re: RE: Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:40 pm
by carson33
bmurph128 wrote:As an Ohio State fan I watched quite a bit of Saquon, and obviously Zeke.
Comparing them in college is no comparison at all - Saquon utterly and completely destroys Zeke - who has the luxury of running behind the best OL in the NFL.
Zeke is not better than Gurley or Bell, and maybe even not David Johnson if he comes back healthy.
But I do agree that Zeke should be over him right now for an all under 25 team. Having said that, Barkley is the best RB I've ever seen in college.
What did Saquon do in big games? Zeke >>>>>
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Re: RE: Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:16 pm
by bmurph128
carson33 wrote:bmurph128 wrote:As an Ohio State fan I watched quite a bit of Saquon, and obviously Zeke.
Comparing them in college is no comparison at all - Saquon utterly and completely destroys Zeke - who has the luxury of running behind the best OL in the NFL.
Zeke is not better than Gurley or Bell, and maybe even not David Johnson if he comes back healthy.
But I do agree that Zeke should be over him right now for an all under 25 team. Having said that, Barkley is the best RB I've ever seen in college.
What did Saquon do in big games? Zeke >>>>>
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Actually one of his most impressive games was against Ohio State this year.
He had 21 carries for 44 yards but he broke a ton of tackles - OSU just had two guys in the backfield on almost every play.
Since his days with Ohio State - which include the NFL record for most drafted players BTW - Zeke has been in ideal circumstances. If you just watch them, IMO it's clear that Barkley is better.
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:18 pm
by carson33
bmurph128 wrote:carson33 wrote:bmurph128 wrote:As an Ohio State fan I watched quite a bit of Saquon, and obviously Zeke.
Comparing them in college is no comparison at all - Saquon utterly and completely destroys Zeke - who has the luxury of running behind the best OL in the NFL.
Zeke is not better than Gurley or Bell, and maybe even not David Johnson if he comes back healthy.
But I do agree that Zeke should be over him right now for an all under 25 team. Having said that, Barkley is the best RB I've ever seen in college.
What did Saquon do in big games? Zeke >>>>>
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Actually one of his most impressive games was against Ohio State this year.
He had 21 carries for 44 yards but he broke a ton of tackles - OSU just had two guys in the backfield on almost every play.
Since his days with Ohio State - which include the NFL record for most drafted players BTW - Zeke has been in ideal circumstances. If you just watch them, IMO it's clear that Barkley is better.
I agree that Zeke's offensive line helps him alot but I hate how people act like that's the only reason why he's had success
Dallas was 4-12 the year before they drafted Zeke
Dak and the entire offense looked like **** when Zeke was out of the lineup this past season
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:52 pm
by Otis Driftwood
carson33 wrote:I agree that Zeke's offensive line helps him alot but I hate how people act like that's the only reason why he's had success
Dallas was 4-12 the year before they drafted Zeke
Dak and the entire offense looked like **** when Zeke was out of the lineup this past season
Which is why I am quietly confident about the Cowboys going into the season. And - why the Giants O-Line rebuild is key to Barkley. Makes the life of the respective QB's a whole lot easier.
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Saquon Barkley overrated
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:04 am
by Cactus Jack
Otis Driftwood wrote:carson33 wrote:I agree that Zeke's offensive line helps him alot but I hate how people act like that's the only reason why he's had success
Dallas was 4-12 the year before they drafted Zeke
Dak and the entire offense looked like **** when Zeke was out of the lineup this past season
Which is why I am quietly confident about the Cowboys going into the season. And - why the Giants O-Line rebuild is key to Barkley.
Makes the life of the respective QB's a whole lot easier.
